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Synesthesian Fetish posted:I want to say you're joking but it's the x-men so I wouldn't be surprised if this was a thing What if I told you that was not the stupidest thing in the storyline it occurred in?
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bobkatt013 posted:What if I told you that was not the stupidest thing in the storyline it occurred in? Well I did some googling and read a CBR article on the top 10 moments of Austen's run and the Iceman thing was even mentioned. After reading the article I'm not surprised it didn't make it. That sounds like an.... interesting time for x-men
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Synesthesian Fetish posted:Well I did some googling and read a CBR article on the top 10 moments of Austen's run and the Iceman thing was even mentioned. After reading the article I'm not surprised it didn't make it. That sounds like an.... interesting time for x-men If you think Austen's stuff is going to be so bad it's good because sometimes it comes off that way and want to read it for that, I must strongly caution this is not the case.
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Austen X-Men run? I have never heard of it. I believe it does not exist, in fact. And it's very silly to talk about something that does not exist. Thank you, have a nice day too.
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Do you think it's ever awkward when Husk meets with her family and they all try to pretend they didn't watch her and Angel bone right in the air in front of them?
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Codependent Poster posted:Do you think it's ever awkward when Husk meets with her family and they all try to pretend they didn't watch her and Angel bone right in the air in front of them? Given the number of mutants in the Guthrie family that's probably one of the most vanilla things they've seen.
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Codependent Poster posted:Do you think it's ever awkward when Husk meets with her family and they all try to pretend they didn't watch her and Angel bone right in the air in front of them? "SHE LIES WITH ANGELS..."
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Speaking of Iceman, I've always liked his look from the Age of Apocalypse storyline. He was always in his iceform, his mouth was always covered, and sometimes he would just hover in place. It always looked very alien to me.
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danbanana posted:I'm convinced this is actually a bit for x-men writers. If you want this job, you gotta tell Bobby to "step up and stop being a kid" and then have him surprise even himself with what he can do with his power! It's the X-Office's version of the Only Johnny Storm Character Arc
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One of the things that several of the recent Iceman solos have touched on is the idea that the more that Bobby engages with his more abstract omega-level abilities -- turning into vapor, accessing cold even beyond absolute zero, stuff like that -- the more that it takes a toll on his...well, humanity. So there's a suggestion that fully exploring the potential of being an omega class mutant might not actually be a good thing. On the one hand, this kinda feels unfair 'cuz no other omega-class mutant seems to have to deal with this kind of drawback*. On the other hand, I kinda like the story hooks this gives. It's hard to get a hold of Luciano Vecchio's recent Iceman Infinity Comic because, well, it's an Infinity Comic that's only on Unlimited right now, but there's a really good scene in there where Christian Frost scoffs at the idea of having to live up to some full mutant potential, deriding it as "capitalist overachiever crap"; the point being, no one is unworthy or "less" of themselves just because they aren't hitting some imaginary high standard for whatever reason. *Personally, this just enforces my belief that the revised omega class standards of HoXPoX are mostly just bunk.  The original, non-trivialized definition of an omega class mutant was that they had infinite power and potential, not that they were the best in the world at doing whatever they did.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:It's the X-Office's version of the Only Johnny Storm Character Arc The “Fire and ice: The unbeatable combo!” panel from Days of Future Present has lived in my head since I was a kid. They do like a Predator hand clasp, and steam comes off their hands.
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I've read so many X-Men comics this year and honestly the ones I dislike the most are the boring ones. Austen is rarely ever boring so I'll give him that. I think he also writes a strong Juggernaut.
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Open Marriage Night posted:The “Fire and ice: The unbeatable combo!” panel from Days of Future Present has lived in my head since I was a kid. They do like a Predator hand clasp, and steam comes off their hands.  so good and also cheesy which just makes it more good
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I like how it implies Bobby and Johnny are really good friends, they just don't get to hang out very often.
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They were both their respective teams youngest member. Bobby could’ve turned out more like Johnny if he was on the team of celebrity adventurers instead of the misfits.
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I've heard there was a lot of text that Bobby not being able to access his full mutant potential was directly tied to his inability to accept himself as he was, which tied into the subtext later turned text of him living in the closet. With that in mind, I rather like how much power he's been able to show off now that he has figured himself out and is able to live openly. Turning that on it's head and having him lose his humanity in order to fully use his powers would really ruin that read.
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BrianWilly posted:
Pretty sure the “no limits other than personal” definition of Omega is still the HoXPoX definition. The idea that they’re the best in the world at X comes from their unlimited potential.There’s even a scene in X-Men 14 where Bobby says something to Synch about being unlimited when he taps into Bobby’s omega level power.
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Internet Wizard posted:Pretty sure the “no limits other than personal” definition of Omega is still the HoXPoX definition. The idea that they’re the best in the world at X comes from their unlimited potential.There’s even a scene in X-Men 14 where Bobby says something to Synch about being unlimited when he taps into Bobby’s omega level power. I like the idea that the new definition of Omega is something that the Quiet Council hammered out, and in-universe everybody finds it confusing as well. "But what if Iron Man made a metal-bullet-stopping-machine, does that mean Magneto's not an Omega anymore?" "Shut up, Shark Girl."
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https://www.cbr.com/x-men-red-uranos-al-ewing-interview/ There are a few lettered pages from next week's X-Men: Red #5 in there. I'm never not going to be a total sucker for a scene like this. "You have a place in the broken land."
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Between that bit and the Fisher King I'm now pondering the comedic potential of the the brutal Hobbesian Apocalypse-founded war culture of Arrako ending up less of a shitshow than Krakoa They might already be there, frankly. They got rid of their Sinister equivalent!
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Gillen says there's no specific reading order for the AXE tie-ins this week (Immortal #6 and AXE Death to Mutants #2)
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glitchwraith posted:I've heard there was a lot of text that Bobby not being able to access his full mutant potential was directly tied to his inability to accept himself as he was, which tied into the subtext later turned text of him living in the closet. With that in mind, I rather like how much power he's been able to show off now that he has figured himself out and is able to live openly. Turning that on it's head and having him lose his humanity in order to fully use his powers would really ruin that read. It's not that there's, like, a 1:1 ratio mathematical formula, or something, where the more powerful Bobby is, the less human he is. It's more like, if he's gonna gonna gently caress with the actual laws of physics as only a temperature-manipulator with literally no upper limit can...well, some things may go a wee little bit wrong, maybe. In the case of the Infinity Comic, that meant going below absolute zero made him lose touch with his physical connections (and then he needed the power of love to bring him back, as you do). And in the Sina Grace series, Bobby explained that physically turning into vapor taps into a somewhat disassociative, depressive emotional headspace that he doesn't enjoy. When he does turn to vapor, he has intrusive thoughts about simply disappearing and not coming back. (Apropos of nothing, all this is why I liked it back when pretty much only Jean and Bobby were the only confirmed omega class mutants, because there was a similar tone to the journey of how her powers developed over the years (This was, of course, back when "being the Phoenix" was literally the evolution of her powers). Fully embracing her own cosmic potential was liberating, but also dangerous, and she had to thread that needle very carefully (which she didn't  ), and there's always the question of how much of the original Jean would be left at the end of the day, and whether that sort of change would actually be a good or bad thing, to which there were no real easy answers. That's what being an omega class mutant meant back then: you might be the next evolutionary step towards humanity becoming a higher, more cosmic, more abstract lifeform on par with the Celestials or even beyond that...but the whole thing about changing to that higher state of being might mean losing a lot of what you are now.)Having unlimited power sounds awesome in theory, but I liked how these stories show that there might be consequences too, and so for Bobby it's not all quite so simple as coming out of the closet and then instantly gaining full mastery over himself. Especially because he did come out relatively later in life, and so all the emotional baggage he's built up from all those years of full-tilt repression don't just go away. I like that Sina Grace and Luciano Vecchio understand this; there's a trauma that adult gay people learn from living in the closet for so long that might not ever go away, and people like Bobby frankly might not ever fully "heal" from that...and so, as much as he's embracing his identity now, this baggage frankly might just affect how much control Iceman has over his his powers forever. And if it does? Well, that's also fine! He has nothing to be ashamed of and nothing to prove to anyone. The only thing he owes to himself is to continue healing from his baggage the best that he can. ...That got a bit long-winded and probably very projective, but anyway.
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BrianWilly posted:I think both concepts can be mutually-inclusive...alternatively, I may be explaining this wrong. Eh, Jean losing her humanity as she unlocks more of her power also tends to rub me the wrong way. But, you make many valid points about Bobby I hadn't considered. Sounds like I should track down Grace and Vecchio's stories. Moving on, I've been listening to Jay and Miles Xplain the X-Men, and got to the X-Factor story-line "The Judgement War", which seems to be at least partially inspiring, or at last mirroring, some of the story in AXE. In short, the original X-Men team are whisked away to another planet by their sentient ship where they get embroiled in an alien civil war between obvious societal metaphors, all while the Celestials loom overhead preparing a final judgement for the planet. I kind of hope now that AXE ends the same way; with Phoenix channeling the psychic energy of the planets new found unity through Cyclops eyeblast, allowing him to shoot the Celestial's judgement hand clean off.
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site posted:the throuple becomes a polycule We're gonna need a bigger bedroom
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I think this thread will be delighted to know that Wolverine's hot claws made a comeback!
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Gologle posted:I think this thread will be delighted to know that Wolverine's hot claws made a comeback! 
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Gologle posted:I think this thread will be delighted to know that Wolverine's hot claws made a comeback! I need details!
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Saoshyant posted:Immortal was amazing again. Can't believe even Shaw can be an interesting character these days. Amazing what getting thrown out of a window can do for a guy.
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Saoshyant posted:Immortal was amazing again. Can't believe even Shaw can be an interesting character these days. I liked how willing he was to accept a negative Judgement until he saw it coming in the form of Frost judging him.
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I'm just happy it was even more open that Exodus was in love with his "close personal friend" And a thumbs up for all Deviants. Seems like people are being judged for being honest, owning up to their actions, and genuinely trying to do the right thing when presented with the opportunity
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Heavy Metal posted:I need details! It was in Ghost Rider sadly, not any of the X-Books.
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BrianWilly posted:I think both concepts can be mutually-inclusive...alternatively, I may be explaining this wrong. I think it could work with both ways. Like, the more he accepts himself, the more he is able to let go and embrace his physical capabilities and change himself, but the more extreme that change is, the more difficult it is to accept. Like with the water vapor thing. Coming out is more than just a 1 stage journey where you just say "I'M GAY EVERYONE YAY" and then it's all fine, it's a long road of acceptance that isn't always a straight path. Well, for a lot of people. Maybe it's getting easier for the youngins, i sure hope so It reminds me of the difference between trauma and growth. They're both a kind of change, but with trauma just being change that is too big or too fast for you to deal with in a healthy way.
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Work and life left me emotionally drained today so maybe I was feeling my feelings more than usual while reading x-books tonight. That being said a lot of them hit me hard. I came out of the closet later in life than most, so the Somnus story in Marauders hit hard and in a related way so did Daken's on self-judging. For New Mutants, I lost my younger brother almost two years ago so the raw emotion between Warpath and Daken and the guilt they respectively feel for failing their siblings hit hard too. Fortunately, none of the Progenitor scenes triggered anything or else that would have been a lot
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