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Sep 7, 2022 20:03
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Sep 7, 2022 20:18
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Bobstar posted:Fun fact: the "Zug" from Zugzwang means move, as in a chess move, but also means train (both related to English "tug"). https://twitter.com/Babble____/status/1567437910361751552
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Sep 7, 2022 20:23
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Guavanaut posted:Suddenly very interested in taking up chess strategy Major Charles Ingram kicking himself for missing this one weird trick.
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Sep 7, 2022 20:28
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It may not have worked that well in 2001 *entire studio sound system makes that bzz click bzz click noise that your stereo did when your Nokia was on top of it as security escorts out two people with a suitcase sized teledildonics transmitter*
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Sep 7, 2022 20:37
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EvilHawk posted:Going back to that poll a few pages ago, assuming it's not entirely made up bullshit by a Tory think tank: I'm 45 and have never had the political position I want in control of parliament (no, Blair does not count). The last non-Tories to have been in that position are Boomers now, I think, and therefore statistically in favour of the Bad Things.
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Sep 7, 2022 20:59
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I've been looking into solar panels and am I missing something incredibly obvious, or wouldn't a government funded programme that aimed to have every home properly insulated and covered in solar panels be a vote winner and economically beneficial for, well, everyone. Every house/building harvesting the power of the sun and basically being a source of power rather than just a drain seems like a Sensible Thing. Everyone knows about energy bills (more now than ever) so it's not like it would be hard to sell "cheaper bills" as a benefit to the masses.
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Sep 7, 2022 21:02
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I suppose it depends on whether you think democracy is good in and of itself or you think it's like... necessary. Cos I would agree that I don't think it's good in and of itself I just think it has to be the basis of any potentially good system. Certainly democracy as most people talk about it seems to be very bad on the whole, in the sense of the political systems that have run a lot of the world for the past couple hundred years. Which you can argue are not very democratic but like, that's what people call democracy, that's what it is in a pretty real sense.
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Sep 7, 2022 21:03
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Kin posted:I've been looking into solar panels and am I missing something incredibly obvious, or wouldn't a government funded programme that aimed to have every home properly insulated and covered in solar panels be a vote winner and economically beneficial for, well, everyone. Ugh! Having those ugly things on the neighbours' roof? It would ruin the view! Just think of the impact on property prices!
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Sep 7, 2022 21:06
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Kin posted:I've been looking into solar panels and am I missing something incredibly obvious, or wouldn't a government funded programme that aimed to have every home properly insulated and covered in solar panels be a vote winner and economically beneficial for, well, everyone. Solar panels are woke.
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Sep 7, 2022 21:07
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Kin posted:I've been looking into solar panels and am I missing something incredibly obvious, or wouldn't a government funded programme that aimed to have every home properly insulated and covered in solar panels be a vote winner and economically beneficial for, well, everyone. They did have exactly that, grants, interest free loans, subsidized grid feed-in, there's a lot of the ex council houses around where I grew up that are covered with them, because contrary to the "ha ha they're thick as pig poo poo and will sell them for drugs" narrative a lot of people there needed cheaper bills yesterday and were capable of pulling out a calculator, and it's the middle classes who think they look unsightly or make noises or whatever nonsense. We replaced all those schemes with austerity and going and loving yourself many years back though.
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Sep 7, 2022 21:08
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Also if everyone is generating their own electricity you can't sell them it and we can't have that.
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Sep 7, 2022 21:08
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Kin posted:I've been looking into solar panels and am I missing something incredibly obvious, or wouldn't a government funded programme that aimed to have every home properly insulated and covered in solar panels be a vote winner and economically beneficial for, well, everyone. Think you're underestimating how much Tory party members apparently dislike looking outside and seeing solar panels, or seeing them on their own home. If the government was to do it but only for buildings that were entirely rented properties and made sure it only provided cheaper bills to landlords, then it'd be a winner for them though.
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Sep 7, 2022 21:08
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Just went to the Octopus site to input latest readings and mention of the £400 to be paid in monthly instalments from October to March has gone, though it's still mentioned on their blog. Also their balance forecast tool isn't working.
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Sep 7, 2022 21:29
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sebzilla posted:Major Charles Ingram kicking himself for missing this one weird trick. tbf I'd probably cough every time it went off anyway 
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Sep 7, 2022 21:42
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Kin posted:I've been looking into solar panels and am I missing something incredibly obvious, or wouldn't a government funded programme that aimed to have every home properly insulated and covered in solar panels be a vote winner and economically beneficial for, well, everyone. Turns out there is a magic money tree, but only the animal spirits of private enterprise may taste its fruit. Spending £3.5k on every household in the UK to improve energy efficiency would something something market forces communism. You can bet that 100Bn is going to end up being paid out of general taxation as well, rather than a surcharge on future use (like say a carbon tax), which means it's basically a stealth subsidy to the most intensive gas consumers.
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Sep 7, 2022 22:06
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Tigey posted:Ugh! Having those ugly things on the neighbours' roof? It would ruin the view! Just think of the impact on property prices! Yeah, the irony is that from my (quick) google, they actually increase your house value. Who'd have thought a house cheaper to operate than others would be in higher demand. I guess I'm just generally disappointed that there are obvious beneficial national solutions staring the public in the face, but barely any loving people can connect the dots to demand them.
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Sep 7, 2022 22:12
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Ian hislop seems... OK? Like obviously no thread hero but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUYQiQeBOSk ok at 24mins gets a bit eurgh NotJustANumber99 fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Sep 7, 2022 |
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Sep 7, 2022 22:13
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forkboy84 posted:The only reason to use twitter is insulting the media class OP Cute animal pics, pretty art, cool weird stuff. Though if you mean posting on twitter yeah, true.
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Sep 7, 2022 22:28
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Tigey posted:Ugh! Having those ugly things on the neighbours' roof? It would ruin the view! Just think of the impact on property prices! they don't want to look at them because they are a constant and inescapable reminder that The World Is Different Now
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Sep 7, 2022 22:31
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Guavanaut posted:Yeah but that means the government doing things, which is Maoism or something idk There's a Green Homes Grant thing going that I've just put in for free solar panels from, but you need to have a household income under 30k, own the house and it's got to have an energy efficiency rating of D or lower for the freebies. https://www.eonenergy.com/green-homes-grant.html, in case it helps anyone here.
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Sep 7, 2022 22:36
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Ban on fracking will be lifted tomorrow. I guess a few earthquakes will distract peoples' minds from the cost of living crisis.
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Sep 7, 2022 22:41
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how easy is it to start my own one man band fracking business?
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Sep 7, 2022 22:47
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One issue with solar panels is that people don't have a right to light, so they're not a reason to stop a developer building a 20 storey high-rise that blocks the light, or even just your neighbour building an extension/planting conifers that completely shade them. The exception is if the panels have been there 20 years, and even then it's on the homeowner to make the objection.
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Sep 7, 2022 22:50
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Lady Demelza posted:One issue with solar panels is that people don't have a right to light, so they're not a reason to stop a developer building a 20 storey high-rise that blocks the light, or even just your neighbour building an extension/planting conifers that completely shade them. The exception is if the panels have been there 20 years, and even then it's on the homeowner to make the objection. I was intending to have solar panels on one roof of my house, but neighbours took one look at me and planted a line of massive trees to hide me, right to the south.
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Sep 7, 2022 22:52
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I feel like you could and should fix that at the same time as passing the legislation.
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Sep 7, 2022 22:52
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I was intending to have solar panels on one roof of my house, but neighbours took one look at me and planted a line of massive trees to hide me, right to the south. It's pretty easy to kill a tree
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Sep 7, 2022 22:53
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Tarnop posted:It's pretty easy to kill a tree Is Tree Law as complex and deep-rooted (  ) as it is in the US?
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Sep 7, 2022 23:02
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No I dont think so. I dont think you can sue each other for so much money. I've cut down several trees recently, on my property, but they were already dead. Needed to apply for an exemption for permission which they granted cos trees dead. This is in a conservation area where there are implicit TPOs on every tree with fatter trunk than 75mm at shoulder height. So these trees dont yet count but I can't kill them cos they aint mine. Its a bit odd that you can't kill trees but you can plant them.
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Sep 7, 2022 23:07
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NotJustANumber99 posted:how easy is it to start my own one man band fracking business? 
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Sep 7, 2022 23:11
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The Centre for Policy Studies, a thinktank founded by Margaret Thatcher, reckoned that evil commie Jermimby Cromblin would need to spend £55b to renationalise the UK's energy sector. Meanwhile pound-shop Thatcher cosplayer Liz Truss is going to borrow almost twice as much (£100b) to subsidise the energy companies when the price cap is frozen, which they get to keep as profit and we have to pay back later. I'm beginning to think that these "Tory" fellows are only interested in funnelling vast amounts of public money into the pockets of private enterprise! 
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Sep 7, 2022 23:24
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Bobstar posted:Hang those who bum the billionaire What have you got against Prince William's mistress?
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Sep 7, 2022 23:30
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i dont think hes actually even a billionaire actually
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Sep 7, 2022 23:31
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Speaking of billionaires, whenever I see these sums being banded about (like jimminys £55bn vs lizs £100bn), literally every time I think about the fact that there are INDIVIDUAL HUMAN BEINGS on the planet who just... have that amount of money themselves. Like, Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos could pay for the UK to nationalise their energy supply, if they hypothetically wanted to. It just hurts my head.
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Sep 8, 2022 00:06
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Wait until you hear that they are universally terrible people, because that's what wealth gravitates to.
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Sep 8, 2022 00:17
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The 2008 bank rescue package was £500 billion, or roughly about a trillion dollars in modern paper assets, depending on whether there's a local shortage of rolled cotton linen blend to run along your poo crack.
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Sep 8, 2022 00:18
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NotJustANumber99 posted:i dont think hes actually even a billionaire actually The royal family have some of the largest property portfolios on Earth. If he's not a billionaire, he's only one death away from becoming one.
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Sep 8, 2022 01:07
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If Jeremy Kremlin had had his way every inch of the country would be covered in solar panels and we would live underground like mole people
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Sep 8, 2022 01:20
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Ban on fracking will be lifted tomorrow. I guess a few earthquakes will distract peoples' minds from the cost of living crisis. Yeah, full article here (torygraph): https://twitter.com/benrileysmith/status/1567629683948150784?t=MiOaKyY_1EJvR8-ZkyOyoQ&s=19 The full list here. It's not "we are all going to die" bad but it is still "a shitload of poor and vulnerable people are going to die" bad, which makes me feel terrible for feeling slightly relieved.
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Sep 8, 2022 01:44
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Can you imagine if Jammy Crobyns suggested spending £150bn on energy sector? Magic money tree, labour govts love spending other peoples' money, where are the costed plans, blah blah.
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