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Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Ups_rail posted:

I really really hate those comparisons. How much energy does AWS consume? What about google, Or tik tok. If were gonna have a standard that we can save the world by stopping X computer poo poo. Then you need to murder alot of the internet.

Kiwifarms going down saved us a few watts but for some reason that just set you off schizo posting

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Magnetic North
Dec 15, 2008

Beware the Forest's Mushrooms

tango alpha delta posted:

Ups_rail posted:

I really really hate those comparisons. How much energy does AWS consume? What about google, Or tik tok. If were gonna have a standard that we can save the world by stopping X computer poo poo. Then you need to murder alot of the internet.
Lmao, you jackass. AWS, Google, TikTok combined don’t consume anywhere near all what is it now? Oh yeah, thirty thousand crypto currencies absolute waste of energy.

:ssh: I know it's crypto-crybaby bullshit... but here me out. If we let this idea germinate, maybe we can get rid of social media too. :ssh:

I kid. To all the bag holders making this argument, do you think we're stupid? If so, is it because you're looking for company?

Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!
Not only does AWS, tiktok, etc actually do SOMETHING, it is also used by wayyyyyy more people than all the cryptocurrencies combined. Even in instances where a huge service uses more power than crypto, it’s gonna be far less power per user.

Same as that “but all banking around the world combined uses more power than bitcoins!!” argument

ELTON JOHN
Feb 17, 2014

Ups_rail posted:

Its not a brand.

*Sigh* look my personal life/back ground is rather tragic. I get you came here in 2013, but something awful was always weird/awful in its own way. Its own type of fun.

Hell I think the first bitcoin thread 10+ years ago was alot of fun and entertaining. Hell I still miss 3 phase.

are you bitcoin rich?

if so can you give me some money

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Ups_rail posted:

I really really hate those comparisons. How much energy does AWS consume? What about google, Or tik tok. If were gonna have a standard that we can save the world by stopping X computer poo poo. Then you need to murder alot of the internet.
Me setting fire to an oil pipeline to roast marshmallows: yes but what about trains

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Ups_rail posted:

I really really hate those comparisons. How much energy does AWS consume? What about google, Or tik tok. If were gonna have a standard that we can save the world by stopping X computer poo poo. Then you need to murder alot of the internet.
Me enjoying my daily plastic microbead bath in a single use disposable jacuzzi: yes but have you considered hospital masks

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
Any proof of stake Coins get big yet? Or are they all like tiny proof of concept coins.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Ups_rail posted:

I really really hate those comparisons. How much energy does AWS consume? What about google, Or tik tok. If were gonna have a standard that we can save the world by stopping X computer poo poo. Then you need to murder alot of the internet.
Me emptying raw sewage into the ocean from my farm whose only output is raw sewage from cows you can't eat or milk because I've genetically optimised them entirely towards raw sewage: have your considered that fish poop

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

HootTheOwl posted:

Any proof of stake Coins get big yet? Or are they all like tiny proof of concept coins.

3 of the "Top 10 Cryptocurrencies" by market cap or whatever are Proof of Stake. Binance Coin, Polkadot and Cardano.

PoS has been around for ages which is why its funny that Bitcoin still demands to burn terawatts of power for no reason every year and the Ethereum miners fought off the change for years to keep 20,000,000 graphics cards blasting away on nothing.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Bitcoin: *Sigh* look my personal life/back ground is rather tragic.

ELTON JOHN
Feb 17, 2014
everyone says theyre rich on bitcoin but none of them ever send me money :thunk:

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
Queen Liz bitcoin just dropped:

Foo Diddley
Oct 29, 2011

cat
but have you read the white papers? some of these are probably introducing important technological innovations that will change our lives for the better

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
Definitely a stable system built on sound economic principles

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

ELTON JOHN posted:

are you bitcoin rich?

if so can you give me some money

So I had btc back in 2012 I used to play that satoshi dice game.

I sold my bitcoin on MtGOX and then they went bank rupt.

I later got into a cyrpto at 0.23 and got out at 0.08

Am I crypto rich...no

But I have my friends....we had friends.....I lost alot of them when Aol Instand Messenger went off line.

Crust First
May 1, 2013

Wrong lads.
Me, defending a system that could run at full speed forever on a NES, but because it's "decentralized" and "trustless" and incentivizes an arms race to burn ever more energy, it uses more energy than Peru or whatever: "Duh actually what about AWS"

Crust First
May 1, 2013

Wrong lads.
Look here, I have to burn down the planet to protect the system from the flaws I designed into it! IT SOLVES THE BYZANTINE GENERALS PROBLEM YOU KNOW!!!

Foo Diddley
Oct 29, 2011

cat
but what about the carbon footprint of all the armored cars driving around for the banks!!

Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!
Look my hobby is setting piles of old tires on fire in my back yard. Are you telling me to just….NOT do that!?

JammyB
May 23, 2001

I slept with Mary and Joseph never found out
Lol at everyone itt complaining about bitcoin wasting energy but conveniently no one says anything about the sun

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

JammyB posted:

Lol at everyone itt complaining about bitcoin wasting energy but conveniently no one says anything about the sun

people really don't complain about solar carbon footprint that much, but they should.

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
look I ll meet you guys half way.

we ll make a crypto coin is only powered by russian oil, and the proof of work is done with slide rules, pen and paper. BY NORTH KOREANS, IRIANIANS, AND alex jones fans.


Also how much energy is wasted by producing porn, we dont really need porn. And I m sure you d agree we dont need anime and anime products.

Crust First
May 1, 2013

Wrong lads.
Actually I need porn for my new eco-friendly coin powered by Proof of Jerk.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
Cum but on the blockchain

busalover
Sep 12, 2020

LifeSunDeath posted:

Cum but on the blockchain

Tracking sperm on Bitcoin with Eggschain
https://cointelegraph.com/magazine/2021/08/05/the-revolution-is-coming-tracking-sperm-on-bitcoin-with-eggschain

Aramis
Sep 22, 2009



Ups_rail posted:

look I ll meet you guys half way.

we ll make a crypto coin is only powered by russian oil, and the proof of work is done with slide rules, pen and paper. BY NORTH KOREANS, IRIANIANS, AND alex jones fans.


What makes you think that we are deranged enough to be willing to tolerate something we find objectively bad and ought not to exist if it happens to hurt/piss-off "bad people"? That's some rolling-coal level bullshit.

Termyie
Aug 18, 2022

Always choose violence.

LifeSunDeath posted:

Queen Liz bitcoin just dropped:



This is just the Princess Diana Memorial Butter Tub but in digital form.

Rad-daddio
Apr 25, 2017

Gutcruncher posted:

Look my hobby is setting piles of old tires on fire in my back yard. Are you telling me to just….NOT do that!?

Tirecoin

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Gutcruncher posted:

Look my hobby is setting piles of old tires on fire in my back yard. Are you telling me to just….NOT do that!?
Of course you shouldn't! You should be burning brand new tires.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
Then trying to resell them.

Soapy_Bumslap
Jun 19, 2013

We're gonna need a bigger chode
Grimey Drawer
I like comparing bitcoin to the porn industry because of the implication that it's a bunch of guys with poor social skills jacking off to what's probably a lot more exploitation than most people realize

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Bitcoin loving wishes it had the cultural penetration (heh) and adoption rate of porn.

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009



Ups_rail posted:


Also how much energy is wasted by producing porn, we dont really need porn. And I m sure you d agree we dont need anime and anime products.

Porn and anime have both done infinitely less damage to the world than crypto.

Think about that. The thing you're defending is worse than anime.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Crust First posted:

Look here, I have to burn down the planet to protect the system from the flaws I designed into it! IT SOLVES THE BYZANTINE GENERALS PROBLEM YOU KNOW!!!

What's really hosed up about all this is that the Byzantine Empire dissolved in 1453, so there aren't even any Byzantine generals around to use the solution.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Is there anything that's going to replace Ethereum as a source of income for GPU miners? All I can see is a few shitcoins that don't have nearly enough value to soak up all the miners need for revenue to pay for electricity.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Is there anything that's going to replace Ethereum as a source of income for GPU miners? All I can see is a few shitcoins that don't have nearly enough value to soak up all the miners need for revenue to pay for electricity.

That's the big question. I loving hope not. It would be really, really nice if the next GPU release cycle didn't have these dipshits soaking up all the production.

gbut
Mar 28, 2008

😤I put the UN🇺🇳 in 🎊FUN🎉


They'll probably just burn and crash and offload cards for cheap to offset the loss. I'll finally be able to buy a used card for cheap, so it's a double win.

The Pirate Captain
Jun 6, 2006

Avast ye lubbers, lest ye be scuppered!

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Is there anything that's going to replace Ethereum as a source of income for GPU miners? All I can see is a few shitcoins that don't have nearly enough value to soak up all the miners need for revenue to pay for electricity.

Some miner will probably fork ethereum to keep it PoW and a small subset will go along with that, like happened with Bitcoin Cash. But that will hopefully/likely stay niche.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

gbut posted:

They'll probably just burn and crash and offload cards for cheap to offset the loss. I'll finally be able to buy a used card for cheap, so it's a double win.

The real question is what "cheap" is.

If we're talking like 25% MSRP? Sure I'll roll those dice.

But like hell I'm paying few hundred for a miner card with a questionable history.

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Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Aramis posted:

What makes you think that we are deranged enough to be willing to tolerate something we find objectively bad and ought not to exist if it happens to hurt/piss-off "bad people"? That's some rolling-coal level bullshit.

*sigh* so to explain the joke. Those countries are under sanctions. 2 of those countries have used crypto to work around said sanctions. So thats like 1 layer to the joke.

The other layer to the joke is that the proof of work is being done by hand, with out computers which is totally not crypto.


rydiafan posted:

Porn and anime have both done infinitely less damage to the world than crypto.

Think about that. The thing you're defending is worse than anime.


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