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When I was in my second college go, one yeari decided to let my hair grow out. Why? Girls kept playing with the long hair of this one guy in our major. Anyway, at one point it got onto my shoulders, and just long enough for a ponytail. My dad said it was "countercultural" and that employers frowned on it. Of course, he was retired military and a consultant, and I was a bio major. I don't think he quite got how unremarkable hair that length was for biologists. In the mid 90s. I had a prof with a rattail and another with long hair and a beard. A history prof looked kind of like John Brown. After it turning out that a long haired goon is still a dateless goon, I had it cut off and kept the ponytail as a souvenir.
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Sep 8, 2022 00:54
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Sep 8, 2022 00:58
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BiggerBoat posted:My old man was pretty straight laced and conservative and I remember growing up anyone with a tattoo, a man with an ear ring, colored hair or any kind of piercing at all was supposed to render them unemployable and was insulting to his parents. Even long hair in a guy or short hair on a woman was suspect when I was really young. poo poo, now I work with a lot of people that have all those all things happening and no one gives a flying gently caress but it was Real Important for some reason at one time. This all still applies to non-white people.
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Sep 8, 2022 01:04
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Oh, well that settles it, huh. https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1566593933949505536?t=awFRFClF6lo4wTSts8ueEQ&s=19
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Sep 8, 2022 02:44
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HootTheOwl posted:Wait what, you can't just end like that Yeah what happened to the prof with a rattail
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Sep 8, 2022 05:19
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Panfilo posted:Oh, well that settles it, huh. What does conservative even mean in their lexicon other than "my team" at this point.
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Sep 8, 2022 11:35
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Panfilo posted:Oh, well that settles it, huh. They do not believe in any of these things. Hope this helps.
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Sep 8, 2022 12:45
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Levantine posted:They do not believe in any of these things. Hope this helps. Boy howdy do they ever not. Individual rights unless you're a woman then welp state controls your uterus. State serves you only as long as you're white, everyone else welp if you get killed by state sanctioned violence you had it coming, you were no angel and on and on.
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Sep 8, 2022 13:13
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Levantine posted:They do not believe in any of these things. Hope this helps. Right? This is like the exact opposite of the poo poo they get up to 1. They're always arguing about state's rights and pass laws in conservative states that specifically attack individuals and their liberties. 2. See above. Cutting Medicaid, unemployment, restricting abortion access, crushing the rights of LGBT citizens and making it harder to vote - among a host of other draconian measures. Drug testing welfare and UEI recipients. In what ways do any of these things exemplify the State serving its citizens? Let's build more jails, gut schools and ban books. 3. See #1 and #2. The only "liberty" they seem interested in protecting is letting everyone carry loaded firearms into Cracker Barrels and movie theaters at all times or let (white) people murder anyone that steps on their property or looks at someone funny. They're really big on letting cops do whatever the gently caress they want to people too, which is pretty much the opposite of liberty. And of course fast tracking the death penalty because nothing says "limited power of the state" quite like murdering your own citizens. They're absolutely for more government power and control at basically every level, beyond limiting the poo poo that corporations and cops get up to.
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Panfilo posted:Oh, well that settles it, huh. Conservatives burn books Conservatives ban books Conservatives state that living your life as you choose "goes against God" Conservatives want women at home Conservatives want men "to be men" All these statements run counter to "we support liberty" and how people can't see it blows my loving mind.
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BiggerBoat posted:They're always grumbling about poo poo and always have. I still get people talking about how "brave" it is for me to have blue hair (sometimes with the subtext of "as a guy") and asking if my boss/girlfriend/whoever "approves" of it. Though, to be fair, most people just tell me how awesome it is, and it's long enough right now that nobody sees my helix piercings so I never get poo poo about those...
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GoutPatrol posted:Yeah what happened to the prof with a rattail He had tenure and lived the good life to the coming end of his days.
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MrUnderbridge posted:He had tenure and lived the good life to the coming end of his days. Did you offer him your ponytail? Did you get bequeathed his?
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Panfilo posted:Oh, well that settles it, huh. It's always fun to read them the identifying characteristics of fascism and watch them change the subject. I mean, they'll never change themselves, but at least they shut up.
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Conservatives burn books That's because they really mean "Liberty for us, not for you."
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Just read about the new anti-immigration plan from the far right fuckos here in Switzerland (the SVP has been the largest party in Parliament since 1999), and the plan is to call it "sustainable" to sell it to the nauseating centrists in this country. Because just think of all the energy and food those immigrants will consume! It's just not sustainable. It'll probably work on more than a few people here too, since many of them seem to think that people-with-names-I-can't-pronounce just sit in tents and eat dirt so of course they only come here to take advantage of our fancy electricity grid.
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greazeball posted:Just read about the new anti-immigration plan from the far right fuckos here in Switzerland (the SVP has been the largest party in Parliament since 1999), and the plan is to call it "sustainable" to sell it to the nauseating centrists in this country. Because just think of all the energy and food those immigrants will consume! It's just not sustainable. It'll probably work on more than a few people here too, since many of them seem to think that people-with-names-I-can't-pronounce just sit in tents and eat dirt so of course they only come here to take advantage of our fancy electricity grid.
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Panfilo posted:Oh, well that settles it, huh. You might almost say they believe in in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind.
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It's amazing, if unsurprising, that the issue of giving the world's largest carceral state an infinite budget to kill anyone at a whim, and the orgiastic frenzy of piggish violence they committed against people who questioned them in 2020, don't come up in these conversations about small, unobtrusive government and individual liberty.
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Tetrabor posted:That's because they really mean "Liberty for us, not for you." Yeah. Just like it says in the Bible
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Tetrabor posted:That's because they really mean "Liberty for us, not for you." Yep that is what they mean. Homosexuality should be illegal because they should be free to walk down the street without they/their kids seeing two women kissing. Immigration should be restricted from all but white countries because they should be free to not have to live around Mexicans or press 1 for English The church should be the state so they can be free to live an a world where everyone observes their religion. Books that contradict traditional mores should be banned because they should be free to teach their children whatever they want without them hearing something at school that could cause them to question parental wisdom Contraception should be strictly controlled because they should be free to decide who gets it Abortion should be banned because they should be free to impose their beliefs on others Etc
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FlamingLiberal posted:What is the actual plan, for those of us who don't live there They're far-right nutjobs, there's no actual plan except to just try out new pictures and phrasing until they get people shook enough to vote for their racist poo poo. But, I know you knew that already. For this one, they're still workshopping it apparently but it seems that "gently caress off, we're full" isn't a winning campaign slogan. They have picked out some "alarming" population numbers that they say Switzerland just can't possibly support though. We had 8.7 million here at the end of 2021 and they want to throw the brakes when we get to 9 and a hard stop at 10 because that's just not sustainable. How any of this would work at a legal or a practical level, they don't give a poo poo. They just want to rile up the base because that's all they know how to do. We'll almost surely be at 9 mil by the end of the year so they can start ringing the alarms about how Something Must Be Done and the environmental angle is pretty genius since one of the fastest growing new parties is a sickening green/business hybrid. It's stupid for all the usual reasons anti-immigration measures are stupid (especially in a tiny country that's completely surrounded by a political entity that requires free movement of people) but even more so when we're in the middle of a massive skilled labour shortage. These fuckers really know how to play on people's fears here though, and we still haven't fully dealt with the fallout of our last anti-immigration initiative since the EU put us on hold to sort Brexit out. Here's an article you can auto-translate from German if you want more https://www.watson.ch/schweiz/svp/522588504-migration-svp-plant-initiative-mit-einer-bevoelkerungsbremse
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https://news.yahoo.com/geraldo-rivera-fox-news-makes-123323513.html Geraldo Rivera Of Fox News Makes Stunning Announcement About Donald Trump Fox News host Geraldo Rivera tweeted Wednesday that he “could never support” longtime friend Donald Trump again. Rivera, a rotating co-host on “The Five,” said the ex-president’s baseless cries of voting fraud ended his allegiance permanently. “Election Deniers depress me,” Rivera wrote. “I blame President Trump for his shameful campaign to slander and undermine American faith in our elections. For all his positive accomplishments, and there are many, I could never support him again. Without fealty to the Constitution, we’re [second] rate.” Trump recently intensified his disenchantment with Fox News, a usually reliable mouthpiece for him. “Wow! Fox News is really pushing the Democrats and the Democrat agenda,” he wrote on Truth Social, his own social network. “Gets worse every single day. So many Dems interviewed with only softball questions, then Republican counterparts get creamed.” Rivera has called Trump a “loyal friend” whom he supported for four years in office and accused “leftist creeps” of trying to destroy Trump at all cost. He praised Trump for his role in producing a COVID-19 vaccine and said it should be named after him. But Trump’s baseless denial of his election defeat soured Rivera’s loyalty.
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Froghammer posted:He's done, then. As goes Geraldo Rivera, so goes the country You say that mockingly, like most of the country hasn't broken apart walls in its basement looking for Al Capone's lost gold
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skeleton warrior posted:You say that mockingly, like most of the country hasn't broken apart walls in its basement looking for Al Capone's lost gold Slate’s Slow Burn has a one year break down podcast series that is going over 1986. Last week, they had an entire episode on Al Capone’s “vault”. Geraldo is insane and his stunt helped keep him paid to this day. https://overcast.fm/+K-j2A7Xo8
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BiggerBoat posted:https://news.yahoo.com/geraldo-rivera-fox-news-makes-123323513.html  Give it a week.
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Nah, this is people getting off the Trump train to board the DeSantis train, and doing it at a time when they think they can help put the nails in the coffin for a Trump 2024 run. They're not coming back unless it's clear he'll win the nomination You haven't seen it as much because Trump refuses to go into that good night, but a large portion of the GOP and mainstream leadership are in agreement on DeSantis.
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ErIog posted:Nah, this is people getting off the Trump train to board the DeSantis train, and doing it at a time when they think they can help put the nails in the coffin for a Trump 2024 run. Trump is going to be ‘too controversial’ and they are going to try and slot DeSantis in there in his place
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My next door neighbor already has a Trump 2024 sign up in his yard with the slogan "Take America Back" which is only slightly terrifying given how this year started (edit: time is meaningless so I thought Jan 6 was this year). We are in for some bad times in the short term no matter what happens. Regular people aren't going to give up on Trump so easily.
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ErIog posted:Nah, this is people getting off the Trump train to board the DeSantis train, and doing it at a time when they think they can help put the nails in the coffin for a Trump 2024 run. But all the die hard fascist chuds are openly stating they'll never support desantis
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Levantine posted:My next door neighbor already has a Trump 2024 sign up in his yard with the slogan "Take America Back" which is only slightly terrifying given how this year started (edit: time is meaningless so I thought Jan 6 was this year). We are in for some bad times in the short term no matter what happens. Regular people aren't going to give up on Trump so easily. I saw one earlier that said "Trump 2024: I'll Be Back" because we want the terminator to be the president, but only if he has bone spurs.
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They are going to try, yes, but they also tried in 2016.Axetrain posted:Looking forward to seeing these people pushing for a not-Trump being forced to bend the knee a second time. 
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DeSantis doesn’t have even a tenth of the weird charisma that the Right likes so it’s going to be an uphill battle
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FlamingLiberal posted:DeSantis doesn’t have even a tenth of the weird charisma that the Right likes so it’s going to be an uphill battle he's going pretty hard on doing not-trump gestures like how mayor pete did not-obama druing the dem primary.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:he's going pretty hard on doing not-trump gestures like how mayor pete did not-obama druing the dem primary.
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Sax Mortar posted:I saw one earlier that said "Trump 2024: I'll Be Back" because we want the terminator to be the president, but only if he has bone spurs. While they call the guy who played the Terminator a RINO because he openly hated his father for being a Nazi.
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