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F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



The founders fought a war so that I didn't have to give a poo poo about members of the British monarchy. :911:

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Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

The founders fought a war so that I didn't have to give a poo poo about members of the British monarchy. :911:

Manager Hoyden
Mar 5, 2020

About once a year I'll fall madly back in love with taco bell and have a hot couple of weeks before I sober up and realize I've gained ten pounds and spent upwards of thirty bucks living mas

No one should do this but also forgive yourself if the call of the dlt is too much to resist

2nd Amendment
Jun 9, 2022

by Pragmatica
It's such a pathetic form of suicide. Like, use drugs, base jump, choke yourself while having sex. All better ways to kill yourself without killing yourself than fast food. If it must be food related, kill yourself by indulging in good food.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Back in the old Tumblr days, people used to make up new genders. They'd say they were a demigirl, or faegender, or whatever. People used to make fun of them for that. But in retrospect that's a much better way of talking about this stuff than what we've got now where's there's just this giant amorphous "non-binary" tag. What the gently caress does that mean? That could be anything other than traditional man or traditional woman. You aren't actually communicating anything about yourself with non-binary. Bring back new genders. If we got people out here that aren't guys or girls but some thing else, they aren't all going to be the same third thing. If we're gonna do this gender stuff, we need to open up the infinite possibilities of gender instead of just having the normal two and other. Let 1,000 genders bloom!

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin

2nd Amendment posted:

It's such a pathetic form of suicide. Like, use drugs, base jump, choke yourself while having sex. All better ways to kill yourself without killing yourself than fast food. If it must be food related, kill yourself by indulging in good food.

I’m going to eat what I want

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

You shouldn't kill yourself at all. Consider hitting the Gym instead

Nameless Pete
May 8, 2007

Get a load of those...

Gripweed posted:

Back in the old Tumblr days, people used to make up new genders. They'd say they were a demigirl, or faegender, or whatever. People used to make fun of them for that. But in retrospect that's a much better way of talking about this stuff than what we've got now where's there's just this giant amorphous "non-binary" tag. What the gently caress does that mean? That could be anything other than traditional man or traditional woman. You aren't actually communicating anything about yourself with non-binary. Bring back new genders. If we got people out here that aren't guys or girls but some thing else, they aren't all going to be the same third thing. If we're gonna do this gender stuff, we need to open up the infinite possibilities of gender instead of just having the normal two and other. Let 1,000 genders bloom!

I always kinda liked the idea of a Kinsey-style numerical Gender Scale with 1 being hypothetical peak feminine and 10 being the most masculine possible. Because I don't identify as trans but I've got no problem admitting that I'm not a 10, for God's sake. Also I want to make "infrafemme" a word.

2nd Amendment
Jun 9, 2022

by Pragmatica
I don't think any goons would classify as a 10.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

We should Cut 2 hours of classes in school and replace them with mandatory gym class, 45 minutes of lifting 1 hour of cardio, and 15 minutes of nutrition. The state of health in the US and the western world is a loving joke. Also if you're a parent and your child is obese you should be charged with child abuse

Nameless Pete
May 8, 2007

Get a load of those...

Gaius Marius posted:

We should Cut 2 hours of classes in school and replace them with mandatory gym class, 45 minutes of lifting 1 hour of cardio, and 15 minutes of nutrition. The state of health in the US and the western world is a loving joke. Also if you're a parent and your child is obese you should be charged with child abuse

Are you American? Because "shift time and funding away from books and towards the sports programs" is actually a super popular take here.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Nameless Pete posted:

Are you American? Because "shift time and funding away from books and towards the sports programs" is actually a super popular take here.

gently caress Sports, GYM. Kids need to be pumping iron

Also by highschool everyone should be enrolled in either a team sport or a combat sport.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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2nd Amendment posted:

It's such a pathetic form of suicide. Like, use drugs, base jump, choke yourself while having sex. All better ways to kill yourself without killing yourself than fast food. If it must be food related, kill yourself by indulging in good food.

Most of us cannot afford good foof. Let people have a single vice.

Gaius Marius posted:

gently caress Sports, GYM. Kids need to be pumping iron

Also by highschool everyone should be enrolled in either a team sport or a combat sport.

Why? I don't think that there is any great need to involve people who don't want to in sports.

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Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Because heart disease and obesity are leading causes of death and it's costing trillions the world over to treat the symptoms of our lack of respect for the physical arts. Besides it gets people outside, in a group, teaches teamwork, comradery, coordination, and prevents such detrimental activities as sitting inside all day playing Roblox or whatever.

HazCat
May 4, 2009

Gaius Marius posted:

Because heart disease and obesity are leading causes of death and it's costing trillions the world over to treat the symptoms of our lack of respect for the physical arts. Besides it gets people outside, in a group, teaches teamwork, comradery, coordination, and prevents such detrimental activities as sitting inside all day playing Roblox or whatever.

Most adults I know who hate sport and exercise specifically cite their experiences being forced to participate in highschool gym and sports as the reason.

If you want people to be less obese, you need to destroy the culture of working three jobs to make rent and of processed food being the only access many people have to dopamine.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

HazCat posted:

Most adults I know who hate sport and exercise specifically cite their experiences being forced to participate in highschool gym and sports as the reason.

If you want people to be less obese, you need to destroy the culture of working three jobs to make rent and of processed food being the only access many people have to dopamine.

Excuses, tell them to hit the gym

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Instead of changing anything about the fast food industry I think America should instead become a nation of 350 million marathon runners.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

exquisite tea posted:

Instead of changing anything about the fast food industry I think America should instead become a nation of 350 million marathon runners.

Yeah no, I want a nation of greek gods not a nation of Mr and Mrs.Skelatal

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Gaius Marius posted:

Because heart disease and obesity are leading causes of death and it's costing trillions the world over to treat the symptoms of our lack of respect for the physical arts. Besides it gets people outside, in a group, teaches teamwork, comradery, coordination, and prevents such detrimental activities as sitting inside all day playing Roblox or whatever.

Then teach people to cook and make good food cheaper and more readily available? Make gyms free and publically available? Require jobs to be less time consuming?

Just going to something in school doesn't mean you can keep it up post schooling after all.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
Every summer I discover how gross most people actually look with light to no clothing on. It's a really nice ego booster to have been going to the gym all year so you actually look like a greek god compared to the flabby masses

Analytic Engine
May 18, 2009

not the analytical engine

Josef bugman posted:

Then teach people to cook and make good food cheaper and more readily available? Make gyms free and publically available? Require jobs to be less time consuming?

Just going to something in school doesn't mean you can keep it up post schooling after all.

There are two independent schools of thought on fitness in the US: cardio vs lifting. Traditionally in the West these fell on class lines, with "lithe" healthy oiled-up decathlon dandies favored by the rich vs "vigorous" volume-of-muscle dudes favored by the working class like your funny cool short overweight bassist friend who's built like a brick shithouse and can't be toppled. The second guy is a fat loser in the "fitness community" but a star in the "bodybuilding community"

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

For Real!
If you told me before the pandemic that I'd effectively have 5 days a week off I'd have told you I'd use that time to get physically fit. Haha what a ruse. I just smoke dope and play dota all the day lol

Manager Hoyden
Mar 5, 2020

Gaius Marius posted:

Because heart disease and obesity are leading causes of death and it's costing trillions the world over to treat the symptoms of our lack of respect for the physical arts. Besides it gets people outside, in a group, teaches teamwork, comradery, coordination, and prevents such detrimental activities as sitting inside all day playing Roblox or whatever.

The fattest people are the weird mental cases like the ones on reality TV shows. There's no helping them

The second fattest people are former high school athletes. Giant round fuckers, all red faced, skin tight and straining, wraparound oakleys hiding their rosacea, enlarged heart beating furiously when they sit in traffic

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin

Manager Hoyden posted:

The fattest people are the weird mental cases like the ones on reality TV shows. There's no helping them

The second fattest people are former high school athletes. Giant round fuckers, all red faced, skin tight and straining, wraparound oakleys hiding their rosacea, enlarged heart beating furiously when they sit in traffic

We get it, you hate fat people

Manager Hoyden
Mar 5, 2020

I don't hate fat people

I was just explaining that high school athletics won't solve the obesity epidemic, it just creates a different kind of fat

Which I described very well in a way most Americans will instantly recognize (as well as anyone who happens to have vacationed in Georgia or Florida)

Robobot
Aug 21, 2018
Wait, I grew up across three different states and in every grade from 1st through graduating high school we had a gym period.

Is that not a thing anymore in the US?

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin

Robobot posted:

Wait, I grew up across three different states and in every grade from 1st through graduating high school we had a gym period.

Is that not a thing anymore in the US?

You don’t have to do four years of gym in most high schools. Now it’s closer to two

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
President, Founder of the Brent Spiner Fan Club
Freshman year was the only mandatory gym in my high school (Class of 2002 if I'd graduated)

Muscle Tracer
Feb 23, 2007

Medals only weigh one down.

Robobot posted:

Wait, I grew up across three different states and in every grade from 1st through graduating high school we had a gym period.

Is that not a thing anymore in the US?

my high school "gym "class"" was letting the kids out in the yard to do whatever, sports equipment optional. it was also a single semester you only had to take once. nothing like the strength training and nutrition/health info described above.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

thetoughestbean posted:

You don’t have to do four years of gym in most high schools. Now it’s closer to two

Back in the 90s, I lived in the only goddamn state in the goddamn union in which every goddamn high school kid was goddamn forced to have goddamn gym class every goddamn day of all four goddamn years. (Not that I'm bitter or anything.)

Many years into adulthood, I got into bicycling and finally discovered that believe it or not, physical exercise isn't necessarily a horrible thing. This was a tremendous reversal from everything my school experience had taught me.

To whoever it was that first suggested that schoolchildren should be pumping iron five hours a day or whatever: this idea had better be part of a complete uprooting, rethinking and replacement of the entire educational system. If it's just "way more gym class", you would have SO goddamn many nerd suicides on your hands.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


My school had a weight room, but you were only allowed to use it if you were in the athletics program. The people taking regular rear end gym class got like one day a year when you'd go look at the weights and somebody would demonstrate lifts. You never actually got to lift anything yourself, though. '

Also, marching band counted as a gym credit even if you didn't march, so I got my gym credits by sitting on my rear end in the back of the band hall all morning.

silence_kit
Jul 14, 2011

by the sex ghost
I think the bad thing about gym class was the competitive nature of it. I don’t really see a problem with turning gym class into being less about competitive sports and more about cardio exercise and weights, where you can pretty easily adjust the difficulty based on athletic ability.

silence_kit
Jul 14, 2011

by the sex ghost

Manager Hoyden posted:

I was just explaining that high school athletics won't solve the obesity epidemic, it just creates a different kind of fat

Yeah many former athletes in strength/speed oriented sports are fat because they got used to eating a lot to support the training for their sport and didn’t scale back their eating when they stopped their training.

It’s definitely arguable whether doing youth sports caused them to be fat though.

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Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

silence_kit posted:

Yeah many former athletes in strength/speed oriented sports are fat because they got used to eating a lot to support the training for their sport and didn’t scale back their eating when they stopped their training.

It’s definitely arguable whether doing youth sports caused them to be fat though.

yeah most people in America are fat without the excuse of being a former high school athlete

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


I've given it some thought and I don't actually know what the purpose of the PE classes I was forced to endure from the beginning of primary school all the way through to year (or 9 or whatever it was) was actually supposed to be. We didn't learn anything about health and fitness. We didn't play any particular sport long enough to really learn anything about it or get good at it. I don't even know what we were supposed to be assessed on. I know we actually weren't assessed on anything, because I passed without trouble every year, including the years where I just refused to participate. It almost seems like the class existed to justify the school owning all that sports equipment. Like they couldn't just have stuff for kids to play with, it had to be attached to a class, so force the kids to cycle through every sport we can think of so we can buy the equipment for them.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Good post on PE. I feel it's usually written off as the time when kids run around because exercise is good for them. But it could be so much more! I'm sure it is in some trendy schools but like:
Meditation
Yoga
Gymnastics/kinesthetics
Swimming practice
Climbing poo poo safely/falling as safely as possible
Good posture and breathing
And eating healthy
What is body
Fun and not just anxiety

I think so much of education is outdated, everywhere, apart from maybe some obscure rich private Swiss school or something. There just isn't really incentive to teach kids to be more comfortable and wise in their bodies.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
They should teach kids the basics: deadlift, bench press, squat, overhead press.

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic
I think the best thing you could do to encourage positive interaction with PE in schools is to treat it like most other classes - acknowledge that people are not the same, and offer alternative classes accordingly.

We’re somehow able to offer math classes for students who need more of a challenge, and math classes for students who need more help. Why shouldn’t PE be the same?

I hated my 6th-8th grade PE where the only consideration of how many push-ups you should be able to do or how fast you should be able to run the mile was your age.

In contrast, in high school, there were a few different classes on offer. The one I chose for a year was graded solely on participation - which I was always down for, and the first time I enjoyed PE in years. There was one that was more traditional where you were graded against expectations, and one focused on fitness enthusiasts where you were graded on your improvement and gains in the area you were focusing on.

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doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
So you are not only advertising your twitch but your pornhub too?

How does your wife feel about Russia rapidly losing the war?

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