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Dr. Faustus posted:lg you can play my FF338 if you've not held a 335 before. They are kinda cumbersome, I don't see you getting along with a body that size. Could be wrong, but just sayin'. i've played a 335 before. i don't get along with them, yeah. were i to get something semi-hollow, i'd probably get a thinline telecaster with the buckers and just deal with the scale length. i don't know if i'm just terminally weak or something, but i have legitimately no idea how so many people play such big guitars so much and it doesn't hurt. Baron von Eevl posted:I feel like if LG was gonna go for a shorter scale it'd be a Jaguar or something. duo-sonic or a mustang. they're generally dead simple, especially if you get a hardtail one. i just want to get notes and chords out smoothly and easily. i don't really have any interest in vibrato. i really do tend to play a guitar like a piano.
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landgrabber posted:i don't know if i'm just terminally weak or something, but i have legitimately no idea how so many people play such big guitars so much and it doesn't hurt. the answer is technique. see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvLD1wytwCs
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If you ever come across a 339 at guitar center give it a shot. I'm a small skinny person too. They aren't that much bigger than a double cut LP or SG but more manageable than a full size 335 with the same tone.
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Thumposaurus posted:If you ever come across a 339 at guitar center give it a shot. I had one of the Ibanez versions, the AM series, and it felt and sounded real nice. Definitely recommended.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Get your <$500 MIM's while you can folks, those days are numbered What MIM is still <$500 ????? oh you mean used, doy Doctor Dogballs fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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I had a nice 2008 Epiphone LP up on Facebook for $400 and a guy traded me straight up for one of those blue plus-top player teles, if that counts. LP was in better shape, but I can probably wait a couple three years and the tele will be worth $700-800.
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Dr. Faustus posted:O hey thinking about doing something irresponsible with money, would you folks please drop links to your favorite Chinese builders? Polaris4music/axes4music on fb. Same shop that does badcatinstruments.com
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A good alternative to a 339 is a D’Angelico DC Mini.
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I'm thinking about getting a looper pedal after using my tutor's, this is what he has/recommends: https://www.andertons.co.uk/guitar-dept/guitar-pedals/looper-pedals/tc-electronic-ditto-loop-pedal Are there any others I should consider? gregday posted:A good alternative to a 339 is a D’Angelico DC Mini. I wish I liked the D'Angelico headstocks better than I do, they otherwise seem like great options for (semi)hollow bodies.
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BizarroAzrael posted:I'm thinking about getting a looper pedal after using my tutor's, this is what he has/recommends: Loopers starts at simple one track loops with undo/redo like that and goes sky-high from there. I've settled in at a Boss RC-300, which is an older unit but near bulletproof in construction quality, and it has three loops where the second and third quantize to the length of the first, and it has tempo settings, percussion accompaniment, simple mixing capabilities (slider for level on each of its tracks, percussion volume, line input with its own volume control, etc.), and each of the loops has their own undo/redo capabilities also. Great connectivity (even has a phantom-powered XLR for a mic, but aux in/out, etc. too). Records up to 3 hours, in stereo, and you can export and import WAVs to/from your computer also. Its feature set is pretty nice even still, but there are better units out these days with even more simultaneous tracks, even better recording quality (this one is 16-bit, 44khz, which is CD quality and sounds great to me but modern RC-600 units goes up to like 13 hours of recording time, doubles the number of tracks, and records at 32-bit with improvements to its on-board percussion and more). RC-600 sure is nice but 1. it doesn't, just to me, look to be as "run over it with your car, play the gig just fine" tough, and 2. costs over $700 new, whereas I paid under $300 for my RC-300 used but it literally has no mark on it from its use because they made it super tough, I'm real happy with the deal I got. But there's a lot of range between the basic single track looper and these. There are two-track loopers like the Pigtronix Infinity 2, more sophisticated single-track loopers like EHX's 720/1440 which store multiple loop slots that you can move between but it won't play them back simultaneously, or EHX's Grand Canyon pedal which does 16 minutes of looping and can do some neat stuff with its loop including decaying loops which are nice for building ambient stuff, and has a shitload of nice delay effects as well as a built in polyphonic octave software that isn't glitchy, and can record its delay effects to the loop as well. If you want to spend more, EHX has some really nice multi-track loopers that have foot controllers for them as well, pretty fancy capabilities - but I like how the Boss units operate better, personally. Another famous line is the Boomerang loopers, which have been doing performance-oriented looping for a while. The modern Boomerang has up to 4 simultaneous loop tracks, pretty neat, but unlike many looper units including all of the EHX ones they are erased when the unit loses power so it really is just for building loops during performance. Akai has a unit, many companies get into it in some form or fashion. Line6's old DL4 had a looper that has been incorporated into a lot of guitarists' performances, might have helped kick off the looper "thing" with its ubiquity, I bet their new one has a better looper but I have not tried it. It just depends on how much you want to go into, what level of sophistication you want to have in building tracks and accessing loops for play back, and of course how much you're trying to spend. Agreed fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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The short scale Fender I GAS for is the duo-sonic.
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I sure would love any of these weird fender models if they bothered to make them for my left handed bastard self Instead I've really been lusting for a reverend double agent
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Instead I've really been lusting for a reverend double agent If I ever spend more than squier prices on a guitar (still very unlikely), this or a similar reverend is what I'd probably get.
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Yeah, a double agent is high up my dream guitar list.
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i can tell music school is loving me up because now i just love adding dissonant notes to everything. love the diatonic tritone
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FM3 update: I got the unit to talk to my computer after installing the driver but now there is a chance that when I unplug the USB it just shuts down my computer lmao. loving Fractal. Anyway, I updated the firmware and reset everything to factory settings and presets. It sounds incredible and its much easier to use FM3 edit than the hardware interface. One of the things I was noticing is that, compared to the HX Stomp, a lot of the amp models are much less forgiving when it comes to playing mistakes. Somehow the Stomp models smooth over my garbage playing while the FM3 models are much more accurate and that makes me feel bad about myself. I blame Fractal for this.landgrabber posted:i just want to get notes and chords out smoothly and easily. i don't really have any interest in vibrato. i really do tend to play a guitar like a piano. Its just practice and technique. Playing clean is really really hard and takes a poo poo ton of practice. I should know, I struggle with it constantly. Also please use vibrato, it makes the instrument sound alive and is one of the reasons guitar is cool. Have you ever had your guitar professionally set up? I know you were saying money is tight, but it might be worth investing in. I know how to do set ups and intonation and all that but whenever I have a pro do it, its just that much smoother and nicer feeling. You might consider it, just so you can see how the instrument feels when its in its best possible state. Drunk Driver Dad posted:Also I'm buying another multi-scale guitar tomorrow. Multiscale is cool and looks cool. Hell yeah, whatcha getting? I was a bit worried when I got a multiscale that I would have to relearn or adjust to it but, nah, it feels natural and I didn't even notice it. I really like having the tension on the bass side without having to fight so hard for bends on the treble side.
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Its just practice and technique. Playing clean is really really hard and takes a poo poo ton of practice. I should know, I struggle with it constantly. Also please use vibrato, it makes the instrument sound alive and is one of the reasons guitar is cool. well since the talk yesterday, i've just been focusing on making sure my fingers are much closer to the frets in each shape i play. seems to be working -- everything's a lot easier. i used to stick my index finger right in the middle of the fret to barre it, which... not a great idea. the weird thing about me, and i know it's lame to post it in The Guitar Thread: i don't think guitar is cool at all. i wanted to play an instrument cause i think i could feel the need to start playing music in my bones a little bit -- and i had a piano and i tried teaching it to myself, because i couldn't afford lessons. but it's a really really hard instrument to teach yourself, meanwhile it was easy for me to become a pretty OK guitar player just by practicing songs and reading up on music theory. i think it's kind of obvious in that my favorite guitar players are people who almost made a career out of being anti-guitar players. rivers cuomo dispensing with a lot of the shredding poo poo in the early 90s, and joey santiago rarely playing non-lead octaves all over doolittle, and even johnny marr, who, though technically impressive, his parts are still rooted less in being a virtuoso guitar player than they are serving a composition. i'm actually a little bit bummed because i don't always want to arrange with a guitar, but it's the instrument i'm best at, so i have to use it to compose. i'm a piano major, and if i could move all of those skill points over, i probably would, but whatever. also in jazz band i have to sit next to this guy whose entire personality is basically guitar. i can't play anything else worth a drat, so i play guitar in the jazz band. i've basically specialized in barre chords and extensions for the last couple years, so it hasn't been an issue for me. but this guy a)went to my high school and used to hit on my sister all the time and b) is constantly playing the wrong chords. we have to share an amp due to the situation at the school. so it's just a pretty loving miserable experience for me lately.
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That's rough, I think guitar is cool as gently caress though. Keys are also cool, it's really fun playing all kinds of stuff. Music from humans is like how birds tweet and do birdsong, what does it matter if it is cool anyway, it's us real deep down. Music predates society, carving flutes and banging on skins... I do it because I gotta as much as I do it because it's cool, but it is also cool IMO Of course you could just focus on things you do think are cool, or accept that coolness is not part of your creative process, do what feels right. Practice piano a shitload until it's what you're good at. I played viola as a kid, then started on drums in my teens, got pretty good, turned out drums and marimba have some poo poo in common so I was able to join the senior band last year of high school and that was a lot of fun. Learned more about music there. Then I hurt my back and took up guitar because that was still doable for me and got alright at that, working on keys now because keys are great and synths especially are the poo poo. Just kinda float where your brain points you, I think, try to enjoy it. Music should not feel miserable. Agreed fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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Agreed posted:That's rough, I think guitar is cool as gently caress though. Keys are also cool, it's really fun playing all kinds of stuff. Music from humans is like how birds tweet and do birdsong, what does it matter if it is cool anyway, it's us real deep down. Music predates society, carving flutes and banging on skins... I do it because I gotta as much as I do it because it's cool, but it is also cool IMO oh, music itself isn't miserable. it's still the default thing i think about. i still love studying music theory, and composing, and pulling apart compositions. and practicing something on an instrument, and it being hard, but then i come back the next day, and suddenly, i have it. it's just that playing guitar is kind of a pain for me right now in most settings. i've fallen off of all the emo/punk stuff i was listening to for the last couple of years-- which is fine, i still like it, it was still an influence, my brain's just moving on --but i haven't found the next obsession yet, so even playing the guitar by myself, unless i'm writing, isn't super interesting right now. and even writing is harder, because i've been focused on that stuff for so long, that now that my inspirations are changing a little bit, i don't know how to get the stuff out of the guitar that i want to. and i don't even really know what that is. and i mean i'm not focused on what's cool to other people, i'm focused on what's cool/interesting to me-- which really just means it's what's inspiring/sticking to me emotionally, which is important musically and when making art. like, lately, it's trying to write lyrics more poetically than just journal entries, and listening to lots of carole king and elliott smith. that's actually way more lame than just punking it up for a while, i think, but it's what speaks to me at the moment.
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Do you think the circumstances and bounding that you're experiencing with the other guitarist that is annoying you could be hurting your creativity? Nothing you've posted from your own music makes me think you're all about that jazz life, maybe I haven't heard enough though. It helps if the music you are making is fun for you to make and means something to you, I think. I never could fit in in jazz bands, tried a few times when I was younger but it just wasn't me. If I tried really hard and made myself, maybe eventually I'd have enjoyed it, but I don't think so, I just like working on my own tracks, improving my technique, and seeing what all that can do for me as it comes together. Fun to play with others who are like-minded creatively, but if you're stuck sharing an amp with someone who kind of sucks and who bothers you and feeling, like, musically claustrophobic, that can't be a good time. It's totally ok and normal to enter into musical liminal states at times as you learn and grow in your own creative process. I've been there with old influences dropping off in personal importance and feeling a bit creatively unmoored, but it's healthy and part of the process I think, just keep at it and doing your thing, it'll take shape and focus as you do I think.
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landgrabber posted:well since the talk yesterday, i've just been focusing on making sure my fingers are much closer to the frets in each shape i play. seems to be working -- everything's a lot easier. i used to stick my index finger right in the middle of the fret to barre it, which... not a great idea. That's great you're working on technique, its just as important as theory when it comes to playing any instrument. Sorry to hear about having to deal with a dumb dick at school, sounds like that sucks a whole lot. Re "anti-guitar": Honestly, I would say virtuoso playing/shredding is largely the outlier in most music that features guitar. Guitar players focus on it a lot because its impressive to us but guitar is such a flexible instrument that can be used in zillions of different contexts. I listen to a bunch of tech death and prog with super high level playing but some of my favorite players are people like Duane Dennison, Greg Ginn and Lee Ranaldo. I love Joey Santiago and Johnny Marr as well. Guitar isn't just a wank stick. The best players know how to fill out a song with all of that other stuff that comes in between face melting solos. Its interesting to me that you see piano and guitar so differently. I started trying to teach myself some keyboard when I got into synths and I was pretty surprised at how much actually translates. Keys are like spreading out the guitar in a line instead of a box. In a lot of ways keys are much easier because of that.
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Agreed posted:Do you think the circumstances and bounding that you're experiencing with the other guitarist that is annoying you could be hurting your creativity? Nothing you've posted from your own music makes me think you're all about that jazz life, maybe I haven't heard enough though. It helps if the music you are making is fun for you to make and means something to you, I think. I never could fit in in jazz bands, tried a few times when I was younger but it just wasn't me. If I tried really hard and made myself, maybe eventually I'd have enjoyed it, but I don't think so, I just like working on my own tracks, improving my technique, and seeing what all that can do for me as it comes together. Fun to play with others who are like-minded creatively, but if you're stuck sharing an amp with someone who kind of sucks and who bothers you and feeling, like, musically claustrophobic, that can't be a good time. i like jazz, i just don't try to write it. i feel like i do use a lot of chords and theory technique i learned from jazz a good amount actually -- like using 7s for chord substitutions, and using dominant 7s for quick modulations. i love jazz harmony, and i like a lot of the songs that we play. feeling musically claustrophobic is making that experience a pain in the rear end. i would have bailed by now if it weren't for the fact that i have to have two ensembles per semester, i'm already in choir, and the only other option is concert band, which i have zero interest in. and would have to play percussion in, and physically speaking it's just not something i'd be good at, or enjoy doing. i might just be slumping. another stupid thing is that distorted guitar feels super masculine to me, and that's something i've tried to spend my entire life trying to get away from.
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Do you have access to a keyboard? If so, even if it's just in a practice room at school, grab one of the Alfred adult books. I started in this one and still just jump into it when I'm feeling it. It's nice and slow and makes teaching yourself fairly easy. Sit up straight, no flat fingers, relax your hands. Basically the same things they tell you starting guitar. You'd be surprised how much guitar brain translates to keys. https://www.alfred.com/alfreds-basic-adult-all-in-one-course-book-1/p/00-5753/ I'm right there with you on piano, too. My sister took piano as a kid, and mom tried to encourage us to have separate interests so I was never asked if I also wanted to take. I picked up guitar in college, came back to it a few years ago. Then I got into jazz guitar, and THEN I got into jazz piano. Keys always seemed so square in the guitar bands I was listening to, but when I got into jazz all of a sudden I didn't want to be Wes, I wanted to be Dave Brubeck, or Monk, or Bud Powell. That's still what I listen to, overwhelmingly. If I could snap my fingers and be a competent [something], it would be a jazz pianist, without question. Life's long and there's only one way there, though. So off I go, at my own speed. e: Maybe I would be this, if I could snap, acutally. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEqgeN27Hhk
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oh i’m actually a piano major at school. just not super far along yet. and so far i’ve been so distracted by writing emo songs w/ jazz chords that i didn’t practice very much. i have a decent yamaha keyboard in my room and we have a ton of uprights at school. i like going into the jazz room when no one’s there and having the yamaha baby grand to myself for a little while. in a weird way it’s probably better for my guitar prospects that i’m not so emotionally invested in the instrument right now. because if it’s not rewarding to do the same poo poo i’ve been doing, i no longer mind working on technique, practicing songs from school, and so on. same thing for piano. when there’s nothing clawing at me, it’s a lot easier to be diligent, so it’s weirdly stabilizing.
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landgrabber posted:oh i’m actually a piano major at school. just not super far along yet. and so far i’ve been so distracted by writing emo songs w/ jazz chords that i didn’t practice very much. Being a guitar nerd that is obsessed with guitar toys and gear and stuff will definitely stunt your growth as a musician, so that's honestly probably a plus for you overall. Once you find your "thing" you'll be cookin'.
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Huxley posted:e: Maybe I would be this, if I could snap, acutally. I saw this on Rhett's channel and it's so good.
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Gramps posted:Being a guitar nerd that is obsessed with guitar toys and gear and stuff will definitely stunt your growth as a musician, so that's honestly probably a plus for you overall. Once you find your "thing" you'll be cookin'. Just comes down to your priorities. If you're always working to improve in concrete ways and make music, gear can be a means to an end. But it isn't the end in itself and if it becomes that you can end up just chasing your tail, for sure.
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What size frets do people like? Lately I've been playing an electric guitar that happens to have jumbo frets, and I miss them when I go to my acoustic, which has smaller frets. The reason I'm asking is because I have a cheap and old Stratocaster clone, and I think I would like it a lot better if it had larger frets. But I don't know enough about lutherie to know how to choose an aftermarket guitar neck. Replacing the frets is a big job, and so is scalloping. Any suggestions for me? It would be nice to have one with jumbo frets and carbon fiber reinforcement rods. Or maybe even scalloped fingerboard?
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Schecter SLS Elite, the 7 string multi scale version. I have that model in a normal 6 that is one of my better playing guitars so I had to jump on this. My only gripe I can really say about it, is Schecter makes the fretboard wider than it needs to be for 7 strings. But the neck is razor thin which makes up for it. I've been up since 4am for work, then had to drive a few hours to get it after so I'm too beat down to really dive deep into it yet. Tomorrow it's going into Drop F# so I can try out some of this new Spiritbox content on Riffhard, once I'm done with that I'll probably tune it a half step down from standard because for the most part, I don't like super low tuned stuff.   Please excuse the bit of visible mess, I work like 60 hours a week and I'm highly depressed, so buying guitars has to be my priority right now. Drunk Driver Dad fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Sep 10, 2022 |
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My favorite Spiritbox riffs are Rule of Nines (think that's G# standard) and of course Holy Roller. The Mara Effect (edit:! that's what I meant!!!!) riffs are up there but they're in 6 string drop tunings with lots of pitch shifting. Have fun m8
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After playing my Ormsby for so long which is a 27.5-25.5 over 6 strings, the fan on this guitar really isn't even noticeable, although I think I'll come to prefer it for sure. The Ormsby is a tad excessive.
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I honestly keep it in C# or C most of the time. At least it's a nice and tight sounding C#. Plus I don't have to use monster strings. I think I have a .50 or so on the bottom string for C# and it's not floppy at all.
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I think one of my favorite tunings for extended 7 strings was my usual drop C#, but then with a low G# on the 7th so I could play the stupidly tuned songs Sikth did on Death of a Dead Day
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:Schecter SLS Elite, the 7 string multi scale version. I have that model in a normal 6 that is one of my better playing guitars so I had to jump on this. My only gripe I can really say about it, is Schecter makes the fretboard wider than it needs to be for 7 strings. But the neck is razor thin which makes up for it. I've been up since 4am for work, then had to drive a few hours to get it after so I'm too beat down to really dive deep into it yet. Tomorrow it's going into Drop F# so I can try out some of this new Spiritbox content on Riffhard, once I'm done with that I'll probably tune it a half step down from standard because for the most part, I don't like super low tuned stuff. i love to see your multiscale guitars. sucks about work -- hope you can get a break this weekend. Do those arm rests come off that office chair / do you own an angle grinder?
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D3 has become the multiscale guy lol. big props.
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Speaking of, I'm not as well acquainted with modern 7 string metal as I am with my favorites, so if anyone has any songs in Drop F#, or for later one when I do A# standard/Drop G#, that have sick riffs, let me know. So far Holy Roller is the main thing I'm excited to play.
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I play in classical position so the arms aren't an issue really. Although the cats have beat this chair to poo poo. Also if you guys are impressed with my multi scale guitars, just wait until I actually start practicing and get good at playing them. Drunk Driver Dad fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Sep 10, 2022 |
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Most of their pre-Eternal Blue stuff, that's also post Self-Titled, is in that range
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