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feller
Jul 5, 2006


Thanks for the obnoxious twitter feed dump

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Eastbound Spider
Jan 2, 2011



It's important to stay updated on the goings ons in da wowld

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Empty posting twitter links should be a probatable offense. Nobody cares about the stupid poo poo you found on twitter.

ThaumPenguin
Oct 9, 2013

Noted.

Yaoi Gagarin
Feb 20, 2014

I thought it was funny

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

VostokProgram posted:

I thought it was funny
It wasnt.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!
Did Queen Victoria just die?? :tviv:

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012


you must be real fun at parties

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

Nah aristocrats dying is always hilarious.

Anywho tho, for people who've kept abreast of Victoria 3 new more than I have: What are my best options if my option is to rebuild the nation state of Poland in Vicky 3?

Radia
Jul 14, 2021

And someday, together.. We'll shine.

Captain Oblivious posted:

Nah aristocrats dying is always hilarious.

Anywho tho, for people who've kept abreast of Victoria 3 new more than I have: What are my best options if my option is to rebuild the nation state of Poland in Vicky 3?

You’ll probably want to release Congress Poland as Russia, either as a subject or, if you want to gamble, not. From there you know the drill. Build up, ally buddies, and create a productive economy

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Captain Oblivious posted:

Nah aristocrats dying is always hilarious.

Anywho tho, for people who've kept abreast of Victoria 3 new more than I have: What are my best options if my option is to rebuild the nation state of Poland in Vicky 3?

As one of the countries who own rightful Polish clay you can release Poland and play as them if you are a coward and want the best/only feasible way.

For non-cowards play Krakow and get enough friends willing to fight Austria, Germany, and/or Russia for you.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Hellioning posted:

For non-cowards play Krakow and get enough friends willing to fight Austria, Germany, and/or Russia for you.

I mean, the answer seems clear to me, get Prussia and Russia to fight Austria, get Austria and Prussia to fight Russia, and get Russia and Austria to fight Prussia.

easy money.

Yaoi Gagarin
Feb 20, 2014

In vicky 2 you would take galicia from Austria first as they are the weakest of the three. I'd imagine that's still true in 3 but perhaps with some cunning diplomacy you can get it without a war.

OctaviusBeaver
Apr 30, 2009

Say what now?
In Vicky 1 you could convert your whole country to clerics and trade technology to Mexico in exchange for some California real estate. Then release Poland to move your capital there and spend the rest of the game bringing in tons of immigrants to mine gold.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

OPB did a video about his Vicky 3 impressions, gonna watch it in a bit.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!

Mantis42 posted:

OPB did a video about his Vicky 3 impressions, gonna watch it in a bit.

This is a really good review, and he sheds light on a key point. In the review he mentions that "nations that are otherwise extremely similar in terms of population, culture, and flavor, play extremely differently based purely on mechanics".

He basically identifies that Victoria 3's mechanics and interlocking systems will produce qualitatively different results based on the composition and economy of the society, and the decisions that you make. If you decide to be reactionary, the mechanics will cause you to take totally different decisions and have different historical effects than if you decide to be liberal.

This really gives me enormous hope about V3! It sounds absolutely like the perfect pop-game that we've been aching for all this time.

Yaoi Gagarin
Feb 20, 2014

I wonder if it will have co-op multiplayer similar to hoi4. That's really nice for teaching someone the game

THE BAR
Oct 20, 2011

You know what might look better on your nose?

VostokProgram posted:

I wonder if it will have co-op multiplayer similar to hoi4. That's really nice for teaching someone the game

Even Vicky 2 had same nation coop multiplayer, I'm pretty sure.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

THE BAR posted:

Even Vicky 2 had same nation coop multiplayer, I'm pretty sure.

Yeah, you could, in fact, co-op in Vicky 2.

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Sep 11, 2019

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THE BAR posted:

Even Vicky 2 had same nation coop multiplayer, I'm pretty sure.

my favourite example of this being a time I was doing so badly in mp as austria I demanded that the prussia player form grossdeutchland and we co-op'd and I did all the diplomacy and he did all the warfare.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

ItohRespectArmy posted:

my favourite example of this being a time I was doing so badly in mp as austria I demanded that the prussia player form grossdeutchland and we co-op'd and I did all the diplomacy and he did all the warfare.

I'm partial to the time that same player became the Tsar's efficiency goblin who constructed the secret industrial and military foundation of the Russia Empire while I was responsible for invading China strategic decisions.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
15% off the Victoria 3 preorder over at Fanatical.

Radia
Jul 14, 2021

And someday, together.. We'll shine.

karmicknight posted:

I'm partial to the time that same player became the Tsar's efficiency goblin who constructed the secret industrial and military foundation of the Russia Empire while I was responsible for invading China strategic decisions.

lmao

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

automatic gun for fast, continuous firing
what that dude in the long video said really inspires hope in me that small tags will be the best they ever have been in a pdox game. imagine if EU4 OPMs had different gameplay experiences based on their trade good, i would never stop being count kleinstadtdorf of nowhere towns in the HRE.

decided my first game is going to be in south america to test this. going to either do uruguay to create Socialist Cowboy Paradise, or chile because they're kinda like a south american sweden situation-wise.

i wonder if the war in the pacific is a journal thing, or just something dynamically likely to happen because everyone in the region wants the birdshit mines?

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!

MonsieurChoc posted:

15% off the Victoria 3 preorder over at Fanatical.

Would I be stupid to preorder this? The last and only Paradox game I ever preordered was Stellaris-- against the common wisdom of longtime Paradox players to "Never preorder Paradox games". Fool me once...

trapped mouse
May 25, 2008

by Azathoth
Funnily enough, Stellaris was the first Paradox game I bought being more used to the Civilization series. It is now my least played Paradox game that I own by a large margin.

I preordered Victoria 3 today. I actually didn't just preorder it, I preordered the Grand Edition.

That doesn't mean that you're not stupid if you preorder it. It just means you're in good company. Then again, I did put around ~500 hours in Victoria 2 according to Steam, and Victoria 2 is a deeply flawed game even after installing overhaul mods.

edit: Just because I preordered it doesn't mean I expect it to be completely functional or even generally playable on release. I just have a feeling that I'm gonna put a lot of hours in it no matter what.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


i regretted my stellaris preorder when i got the game because it was half-finished, but then they finished it so ultimately after a year or two i didn't regret it anymore. even if v3 is broken as gently caress on launch it's not gonna stay that way forever, and all indications are that apart from some AI quirks it's a finished game, if not a perfect one

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Honestly since CK2 I feel like the only Paradox games you actually made a mistake pre-ordering would be Stellaris and Imperator

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


While no one may ever be able to tell if victoria 3 is or will be GOOD, it is certainly already INTERESTING and thats enough for my preorder

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

DrSunshine posted:

Would I be stupid to preorder this? The last and only Paradox game I ever preordered was Stellaris-- against the common wisdom of longtime Paradox players to "Never preorder Paradox games". Fool me once...

you should never spend more than twenty dollars on a video game

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



I preordered the fancy edition because I know drat well I'll put as much time into a bad Paradox game as I do into most great other games.

Besides, I was amongst us begging for Vicky III for years and years, I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is on it :v:

Radia
Jul 14, 2021

And someday, together.. We'll shine.

StashAugustine posted:

Honestly since CK2 I feel like the only Paradox games you actually made a mistake pre-ordering would be Stellaris and Imperator

include March of the eagles and you’ve listed over half the games they’ve released since then :v:

Takanago
Jun 2, 2007

You'll see...

Stairmaster posted:

you should never spend more than on a video game

Horsebanger
Jun 25, 2009

Steering wheel! Hey! Steering wheel! Someone tell him to give it to me!
Imperator I regret, Stellaris I had fun with in 1.0 but looking back it was a bit barren.

The worst Paradox published one was Sword of the Stars 2 and holy moley, I don't think anything released by PDX studio could top that in being "feature incomplete"

Little Abigail
Jul 21, 2011



College Slice
Yeah, compared to how either tremendously grognardy or super old most other 4X space games were at the time Stellaris 1.0 was pretty good. I do agree looking back on it it was pretty barren though.

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

I miss tiles.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

I regret buying Imperator at all. My thinking was that even if it was a disaster they'd fix it because they're always fixing disasters, but I guess there's an important difference between fixing a disaster that's still selling DLC and one that isn't.

Radia
Jul 14, 2021

And someday, together.. We'll shine.

TOOT BOOT posted:

I regret buying Imperator at all. My thinking was that even if it was a disaster they'd fix it because they're always fixing disasters, but I guess there's an important difference between fixing a disaster that's still selling DLC and one that isn't.

well, they're always fixing disasters because most of their games are still disasters :v: I guess they're more stable now, but remember they aren't the scrappy five person studio anymore either lol

i mean who am i to talk. i still preordered this and am going to love it like a piece of garbage.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Eh I'll see what early word of mouth says.

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Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

Imagine not believing in this legend.

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