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BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.


This would be funny if it weren't so terrifyingly bleak.

The CCP's propaganda is so ham handed, and poorly executed. Who is this for? It's clearly for the foreign western press, as otherwise why get a "western" influencer. Who believes it/falls for it? I mean even the influencer must know, as he/she was there when it was filmed, but who of his audience says "I saw a clearly uncomfortable little girl dance whislt being watched from outside the window. Clearly there is no oppression here."

And on the dancing. I am a child of immigrants. Both my mum and my dad are first generation immigrants. So growing up I have been in a lot of immigrant families homes, and attended many more big events etc. And rarely did even the old people pull out the old "ethnic dance from the motherland" poo poo. Maybe deep in the night a drunk uncle would put on some Carnatic music. But not often. Which is yet another thing that shits me about these propaganda "look, we let them do the silly dances in their own homes, and eat non-Chinese foods. How dare you say we are oppressing anyone" videos/stories.

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Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Reminds me of the little people village in Idiot abroad, basically everything fake for your entertainment, like those fake mosques etc they built

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Those two dudes who did the adventure riding around china did a video on that a few weeks ago.

They take time roasting a few "influencers" who are clearly doing PR.

They also might have been the ones interview "digital no mads" that explain they no longer do promoting for china goverments because they get very demanding. and that was before the whole genocide thing going on.

BrigadierSensible posted:

And on the dancing. I am a child of immigrants. Both my mum and my dad are first generation immigrants. So growing up I have been in a lot of immigrant families homes, and attended many more big events etc. And rarely did even the old people pull out the old "ethnic dance from the motherland" poo poo. Maybe deep in the night a drunk uncle would put on some Carnatic music. But not often. Which is yet another thing that shits me about these propaganda "look, we let them do the silly dances in their own homes, and eat non-Chinese foods. How dare you say we are oppressing anyone" videos/stories.


Well yes

“Under communism all minorities dance.”

― Theodore Dalrymple, The Wilder Shores of Marx: Journeys in a Vanishing World

Also the reason its soo heavy handed is that its for the local political machine first. Outside consumption 2nd.

All those agents are basically showing their bosses "look look we are doing our job good"

Ups_rail fucked around with this message at 11:50 on Sep 11, 2022

Criss-cross
Jun 14, 2022

by Fluffdaddy

BrigadierSensible posted:

The CCP's propaganda is so ham handed, and poorly executed. Who is this for?

Check out some other forums on this site, maybe places Chapo listeners gather, if you want to find out!

ili
Jul 26, 2003


BrigadierSensible posted:

The CCP's propaganda is so ham handed, and poorly executed. Who is this for? It's clearly for the foreign western press, as otherwise why get a "western" influencer. Who believes it/falls for it?

It's for people who've already decided China Good CIA Bad = no genocide in xinjiang and want another fig leaf so they can pretend they don't support the effective obliteration of a people because they're politically inconvenient.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Kharnifex posted:

Reminds me of the little people village in Idiot abroad, basically everything fake for your entertainment, like those fake mosques etc they built

Everyone knows that's fake though (if it's the one I'm thinking of? I watched idiot abroad but I don't remember it, the one in Kunming?) and it's all just for some probably super offensive fun. I don't think anyone believes "holy poo poo China let the little people have their own monarchy and preserve their tradition of mushroom houses." Though I wish that was true.

They got a little people king and it's loving awesome.

BrigadierSensible posted:

The CCP's propaganda is so ham handed, and poorly executed. Who is this for?

It's for the guy above the guy who's making it all so he can say he did all this so he can move up in the party.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

Kharnifex posted:

Reminds me of the little people village in Idiot abroad, basically everything fake for your entertainment, like those fake mosques etc they built

BrainDance posted:

Everyone knows that's fake though (if it's the one I'm thinking of? I watched idiot abroad but I don't remember it, the one in Kunming?) and it's all just for some probably super offensive fun. I don't think anyone believes "holy poo poo China let the little people have their own monarchy and preserve their tradition of mushroom houses." Though I wish that was true.

It's for the guy above the guy who's making it all so he can say he did all this so he can move up in the party.

It’s part of the totalitarian flex. You know it’s bullshit. They know you know it’s bullshit. There’s nothing you can do to call them on it. Everyone has to nod yes and move along.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
Downfall Meme Diplomacy

Seriously though; I lost it at "they're farming dungeons".

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

BrigadierSensible posted:

The CCP's propaganda is so ham handed, and poorly executed. Who is this for?

It's for the people currently melting down in the C-SPAM Ukraine thread: western tankies who uncritically guzzle down authoritarian propaganda because it happens to agree with their warped worldview.

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

McGavin posted:

It's for the people currently melting down in the C-SPAM Ukraine thread: western tankies who uncritically guzzle down authoritarian propaganda because it happens to agree with their warped worldview.

I dont go into cspam.

But why would they melt down? Russia is a autocratic/oligarchy they left communism willingly. There are only 4 (on paper communist countries) Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea, and china.

I also had to look up the term tankie. How the USSR sent tanks into Czechoslovakia. Even though they didnt really revolt. The Communist party in Czechoslovakia kinda followed the rules. Arguing that they were a more industrialized and thus further along the communism than less industrialized nations and thus were closer to post communism etc.

The Soviets didnt like that.

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



Ups_rail posted:

I dont go into cspam.

But why would they melt down? Russia is a autocratic/oligarchy they left communism willingly. There are only 4 (on paper communist countries) Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea, and china.

I also had to look up the term tankie. How the USSR sent tanks into Czechoslovakia. Even though they didnt really revolt. The Communist party in Czechoslovakia kinda followed the rules. Arguing that they were a more industrialized and thus further along the communism than less industrialized nations and thus were closer to post communism etc.

The Soviets didnt like that.

'Tankie' is more about '56 than '68. Hungary.

Tomn
Aug 23, 2007

And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands

Ups_rail posted:

I dont go into cspam.

But why would they melt down? Russia is a autocratic/oligarchy they left communism willingly. There are only 4 (on paper communist countries) Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea, and china.

I also had to look up the term tankie. How the USSR sent tanks into Czechoslovakia. Even though they didnt really revolt. The Communist party in Czechoslovakia kinda followed the rules. Arguing that they were a more industrialized and thus further along the communism than less industrialized nations and thus were closer to post communism etc.

The Soviets didnt like that.

Because America = bad, therefore anyone opposing America = anti-imperialist hero, basically. Same reason why they insist that China is Communist despite it really not being that, or how in some cases "Trump is actually a secret socialist and any day now you'll see him swing to the left after having rode to power on a populist wave and outflanked the liberals!"

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Ups_rail posted:

I dont go into cspam.

But why would they melt down? Russia is a autocratic/oligarchy they left communism willingly. There are only 4 (on paper communist countries) Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea, and china.

Tankies hate the US, so they enthusiastically support any regime opposed to the US. It's a galaxy-brained "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" take.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

McGavin posted:

It's for the people currently melting down in the C-SPAM Ukraine thread: western tankies who uncritically guzzle down authoritarian propaganda because it happens to agree with their warped worldview.

Probably this guy basically

https://twitter.com/geraldcelente/status/1568697368551501824?s=46&t=Cc3zKVhSXXu1wrSTWySOoA

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012


https://twitter.com/geraldcelente/status/1568846427039875073?s=20&t=a34af8IaXRfFHv5HdSSSwg

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Warwick to become British embassy rep in China's little people mushroom village

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

I ll be honest I would like to see germany vs anyone at this point not nato or maybe nato minus the US and see how that would play out.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Certainly a blood thirsty little “peace activist” right there.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

BrigadierSensible posted:

Who is this for? It's clearly for the foreign western press, as otherwise why get a "western" influencer. Who believes it/falls for it?



Ups_rail posted:

I dont go into cspam.

But why would they melt down? Russia is a autocratic/oligarchy they left communism willingly. There are only 4 (on paper communist countries) Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea, and china.

CSPAM likes to believe that the enemy of my enemy is really their friends, even if China and Russia would hate them. Surely, China would give up the One Ring of Capitalism and plunge forth in a glorious communist utopia any day now!

Tormented
Jan 22, 2004

"And the goat shall bear upon itself all their iniquities unto a solitary place..."

I hate the mainlander thing of, "If people are dancing they are happy and nothing is wrong." So they force them to dance as if nothing is wrong.

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin

Tormented posted:

I hate the mainlander thing of, "If people are dancing they are happy and nothing is wrong." So they force them to dance as if nothing is wrong.

To the Han Chinese, other ethnic groups only exist to put on nice costumes and dance. That’s about it.

And the video posted isn’t for foreign tankies. Tankies are wonderfully useful idiots, but they don’t really get thought about much. The posters who said it was to please the government agent’s bosses were right on the money. It’s all about showing that they’re doing something

Empty Sandwich
Apr 22, 2008

goatse mugs
dance as if no one is monitoring

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?



Seems legit. All minorities in China exist only to dance on camera.

sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost

Empty Sandwich posted:

Chinathread: dance as if no one is monitoring

frytechnician
Jan 8, 2004

Happy to see me?

Empty Sandwich posted:

dance as if no one is monitoring

Goddamn, that's good. New thread title?

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Can someone help me find that video of Chinese granny dancing to Jeezy? I can’t remember if it was in this thread or just on Twitter.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Edit: weird edit repost.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


TaurusTorus
Mar 27, 2010

Grab the bullshit by the horns

luv 2 talk about the Heavenly Kingdom to get some hand stuff

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Ups_rail posted:


All those agents are basically showing their bosses "look look we are doing our job good"

*In my tux at Dr Terror's grand party celebrating the launch of the orbital peace laser* poo poo better get in front of this here security camera or the boss will think I'm slacking

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


TaurusTorus posted:

luv 2 talk about the Heavenly Kingdom to get some hand stuff

Gaining the Handate of Heaven

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

Empty Sandwich posted:

dance as if no one is monitoring

We have way too many good thread titles incoming

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

How many other Asian countries has he been kicked out of?

Stink Billyums
Jul 7, 2006

MAGNUM

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005


Wait a sec this guy looks familiar

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

I ask again how many countries in Asia is he banned from and/or has active warrants out for his arrest.

Seriously that’s a dude if you ever see near kids you give him a loving Stan Hansen Lariato pronto!

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

im the taped up wall scroll

ili
Jul 26, 2003


Empty Sandwich posted:

Chinathread: dance as if no one is monitoring

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
*tapping wall 'scroll'*

bitches love tape

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Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Herstory Begins Now posted:

im the taped up wall scroll

I'm the police ready to kick in the door and flashbang the poo poo out of him.

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