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Azathoth posted:oswald wasn't ever aware of the degree he was being used. the CIA via de Mohrenschildt hyped the guy up to do violence and they wanted him to do something like shoot Gen. Edwin Walker, which would have had genuine use in anti-communist propaganda. the "oswald was an asset but also acted alone" theory is kinda funny yeah
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paul_soccer12 posted:Carlos Marcello went with Guy Bannister's crew at the last minute instead of Ward Littel's god those books are good
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Don't worry, her son will be equally if not more problematic.
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HootTheOwl posted:Don't worry, her son will be equally if not more problematic. Don't sell him so short, he'll be wildly more problematic.
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That is pretty funny how Elizabeth got to watch UK decline steadily year after year for her entire life. Just a massive column of Ls.
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Pryor on Fire posted:That is pretty funny how Elizabeth got to watch UK decline steadily year after year for her entire life. Just a massive column of Ls.
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Are there any good books on the Empire under Queen Liz and how we hosed over Kenya / Yemen / etc Reflecting on threads like this https://twitter.com/Aldanimarki/status/1567861763219116032?t=fLaIXOl5DWSJ3Fmz4JFFRA&s=19 https://twitter.com/MCipriani_WTAE/status/1568269858420170752?t=FqGHDTUQ4S2hfrh_atkKlg&s=19
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Some Guy TT posted:
Imperial Japan was just "What if a Non White country did Victorian Colonialism with modern weapons"
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Not So Fast posted:Are there any good books on the Empire under Queen Liz and how we hosed over Kenya / Yemen / etc It's been a while but I believe John Newsinger's "The Blood Never Dried" might cover some of Liz's reign I'll try to follow up when I'm back from holiday
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gradenko_2000 posted:It's been a while but I believe John Newsinger's "The Blood Never Dried" might cover some of Liz's reign It does, it covers up to the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq in the 2000s.
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 They... tried It was better than anything else we designed at that point but im not sure why they didn't just order infinite shermans. I guess it led to the Centurian which was great but missed the war lol.
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well it didn't miss the korean war and it was basically a lowkey mvp of a bunch of other proxy conflicts
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Slavvy posted:Is there any British WW2 tank that was actually good and not just good by British standards? yeah the sherman 
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Slavvy posted:Is there any British WW2 tank that was actually good and not just good by British standards? The British decided to use a couple dozen secret new Churchill tanks in Operation Jubilee which was a disaster and led to the new tanks all getting captured intact on the beach. The Germans evaluated them and found them to be really bad at shooting, armor, maneuverability, and having an overall poo poo build quality. The nazis were usually impressed by captured Soviet tanks but the Brits just made them lmao.
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The tank podcast Totally Tanked had an episode on the cold war Chieftain tank recently and that was another bad British tank. For having invented it they're apparently not very good at making tanks.
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I thought the chieftain was the most powerful tank in pure direct combat terms of it's time? Like yeah it was slow and being British implicitly unreliable and poorly built, but that was a lot of armor and firepower in one vehicle for the time. I'd take it over a t55 if I were inside the tank personally.
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as i recall the valentine was decent for its time, albeit undergunned
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the best british tank ever made is probably the vickers 6 ton, which is why the british were the only ones to not use it
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Slavvy posted:I thought the chieftain was the most powerful tank in pure direct combat terms of it's time? Like yeah it was slow and being British implicitly unreliable and poorly built, but that was a lot of armor and firepower in one vehicle for the time. I'd take it over a t55 if I were inside the tank personally. the chieftan was a contemporary of the t-64 and leopard 1 lol
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Stairmaster posted:the chieftan was a contemporary of the t-64 and leopard 1 lol Fuuuck me ok that's not ideal then
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What, exactly, was the point of HMS Vanguard?? Everything the British did in WW2 was a stupid failure or a waste of time and money and usually human life. Except, of course, for getting the USA on their side.
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Grevling posted:The tank podcast Totally Tanked had an episode on the cold war Chieftain tank recently and that was another bad British tank. For having invented it they're apparently not very good at making tanks.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:What, exactly, was the point of HMS Vanguard?? Everything the British did in WW2 was a stupid failure or a waste of time and money and usually human life. Except, of course, for getting the USA on their side. Yeah there are so many silly British stories in WW2, my favorite is how in September of 44 when Germany was in full retreat Monty managed to convince Eisenhower to launch Market Garden, which ended with nearly two full airborne divisions wiped out for nothing. None of the British radios even worked at Arhhem, they had to use the Dutch home landlines.
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the RAF was an absolute shitshow at the start of WW2 in basically every regard. like, equipment to tactics. they thought the Boulton-Paul Defiant would be an effective fighter aircraft with its turret behind the pilot and no forward firing guns at all (described by some as "the best 1918 fighter in the world"). they were committed to using Fighting Area Attacks and flying rigid in close formation against Germans who had learned to use the spread out finger-four formation that allowed for flexibility and better pilot awareness on top of easier manouevring. when the Battle of Britain began they had no seaplanes for rescue purposes so any pilots that bailed out over the English Channel were basically doomed unless the navy or fishing boats picked them up, while the Luftwaffe had a whole logistical setup for picking up downed pilots at sea. the list goes on and basically if Operation Sealion hadn't been an impossibility due to equal German incompetence and incapability on the other side then Britain would have been entirely hosed
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Cuttlefush posted:yeah the sherman 
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John Charity Spring posted:when the Battle of Britain began they had no seaplanes for rescue purposes so any pilots that bailed out over the English Channel were basically doomed unless the navy or fishing boats picked them up, while the Luftwaffe had a whole logistical setup for picking up downed pilots at sea everything I've read about the Battle of Britain that touched on this respect said over and over that it was Britain that had the distinct advantage because all of their pilots that bailed out would just land in England, but all of the Luftwaffe pilots that bailed out would be captured I'm starting to think the silence on what happened to pilots over the Channel might have been a deliberate omission
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gradenko_2000 posted:everything I've read about the Battle of Britain that touched on this respect said over and over that it was Britain that had the distinct advantage because all of their pilots that bailed out would just land in England, but all of the Luftwaffe pilots that bailed out would be captured the RAF also spent most of the summer months after the fall of France flying 'convoy patrols' ostensibly to protect the merchant convoys that had to go through the Channel, but they almost never managed to protect anything because they would be scrambled too late to intercept the bombers, so instead they just got into pointless dogfights with the fighter escorts over the Channel instead and bled pilots and machines for no benefit it's a novel rather than a non-fiction book but I really recommend Piece of Cake by Derek Robinson as an insight into what RAF fighter squadrons were like in the first year of WW2. it's a fantastic book and meticulously researched on top of being well-written, and it sparked outrage in the UK when it was published in the 1970s because people said it was an insult to the heroes of the Battle of Britain lol John Charity Spring has issued a correction as of 09:08 on Sep 12, 2022 |
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:What, exactly, was the point of HMS Vanguard?? Everything the British did in WW2 was a stupid failure or a waste of time and money and usually human life. Except, of course, for getting the USA on their side. Vanguard was ordered in 1941 before it was clear that airpower was the deciding factor at sea and was designed to use left over 15 inch guns, as guns are the longest lead time item on a battleship. Her construction was not a priority during the war as the British knew a fast battleship was not top priority, and the Kriegsmarine and Regia Marina had been largely defeated midway through the war. Battleships did have more purpose in the North Sea/Med than elsewhere though, due a combination of terrible weather and land based air respectively making naval air less effective relatively speaking. The Japanese were also out there with Yamato and Mushashi as well. Of course you always have to factor in the institutional inertia of the battleship lovers in every navy who weren't ready to give up on them, the RN included.
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