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canepazzo posted:Question about 1.34: landlocked countries cant get blockaded
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Sep 12, 2022 20:23
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Nothing happens as you cant blockade landlocked countries.
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Sep 12, 2022 20:23
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I assume they mean do you get a 75% penalty all the time for being landlocked? If I'm say the Mongol Empire I shouldn't lose 75% of my global trade value because Kamchatka gets blockaded since no trade flows through there when Switzerland can get away penalty free when they have no ports at all. If there's no penalty for landlocked countries and you have no need for a navy it would be beneficial to avoid taking ports for as long as possible so that the ports you aren't using for trade can't be blockaded and kill your overland trade.
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Sep 12, 2022 20:29
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Yeah that's what I meant, if you're landlocked do you get the penalty no matter what?
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Sep 12, 2022 20:37
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canepazzo posted:Yeah that's what I meant, if you're landlocked do you get the penalty no matter what? Presumably not, that'd be incredibly cruel
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Sep 12, 2022 20:39
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mfcrocker posted:Presumably not, that'd be incredibly cruel The downside to not penalizing landlocked countries (or scaling the penalty with how much you actually use the ports) is it creates micro for any country that doesn't have strong overseas trade or a navy. If I'm Mongolia, Persia, Austria, Brandenburg etc. I'm now encouraged to either actively avoid taking ports until I'm ready to build a navy to defend them, or to feed them to a coastal vassal whose job is to just get his economy crippled because I'm not going to expose my overland trade to a 75% malus for taking a lovely port in some frozen ocean.
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Sep 12, 2022 20:46
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Yeah this seems borked
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Sep 12, 2022 20:49
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Jay Rust posted:Yeah this seems borked Seems like a failure of the abstraction, in that trade volume isn't assigned to particular port cities. It's not inherently crazy that blocking a few small ports of a large, mostly landlocked nation would have a disproportionate effect on trade (mainly thinking of Russia here).
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Sep 12, 2022 20:55
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uPen posted:I assume they mean do you get a 75% penalty all the time for being landlocked? The code doesnt know what "Landlocked" means. Blockading is a province modifier, and if youve never gotten the "Blockade" event during war, there is already an ingame check for something like "if all coastal provinces have this modifier then trigger pulse event #blahblahblah" There is no way the game could interpret "you own 0 coastal provinces" to mean "ah well technically youre completely blockaded  "Edit: it seems fairly obvious they are just adding an additional penalty to a logic check that already exists in the game uPen posted:If I'm say the Mongol Empire I shouldn't lose 75% of my global trade value because Kamchatka gets blockaded since no trade flows through there when Switzerland can get away penalty free when they have no ports at all. Not commenting on this since its a separate thing Mr. Grinch fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Sep 12, 2022 |
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Sep 12, 2022 21:21
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In the very least, the penalty should absolutely not be applied in inland trade nodes.
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Sep 12, 2022 21:58
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Navies needed to be more useful anyways
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Sep 12, 2022 22:06
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I think ideally it ought to be scaled based on how much of your trade power comes from the provinces being blockaded but honestly the way trade is represented in this game is so bad that I cant get too animated about it
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Sep 12, 2022 23:13
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Another weird outcome from that mechanic is that you could be say France, have your mainland fully blockaded by England, but have some random island in the Indian Ocean unblockaded and it will somehow keep your national trade income going by itself
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Sep 12, 2022 23:17
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DLC and patch are already live, by the way. New estate window looks a bit better! (what with needing space for 6 priviledges)>
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Sep 13, 2022 09:27
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There's an event in the new patch that lets you flip to Norse religion lol.
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Sep 13, 2022 10:10
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What is the state of Leviathan these days? I'm interested in getting it on sale now if its been fixed. Monuments and favor mechanics seem cool. The recent reviews on steam are still overwhelmingly negative but I'm expecting a lot of those to be just memes.
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Sep 13, 2022 12:26
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Red Bones posted:There's an event in the new patch that lets you flip to Norse religion lol. Has torn away my ability to feel human yada yada...
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Sep 13, 2022 12:44
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Finnish Flasher posted:What is the state of Leviathan these days? I'm interested in getting it on sale now if its been fixed. Monuments and favor mechanics seem cool. It's been bugfixed and patched into just another content addition. Whether it's worth it at full price is debatable but, at least for Anbennar, the monuments are worth running the dlc.
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Sep 13, 2022 12:45
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Red Bones posted:There's an event in the new patch that lets you flip to Norse religion lol. At first I was confused why this was lol worthy, then I realized that this is not the CK3 thread. It's imho not any more ridiculous than reforming the Roman Empire, and we know that Paradox and a big subset of the fans have a boner for Scandinavia.
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Sep 13, 2022 12:49
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Rynoto posted:It's been bugfixed and patched into just another content addition. Whether it's worth it at full price is debatable but, at least for Anbennar, the monuments are worth running the dlc. Ok thanks, I will probably get it now then.
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Sep 13, 2022 13:22
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Lubeck MT is free so I'm gonna try that while waiting for a sale on the DLC.
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Sep 13, 2022 16:13
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Leviathan gives you something to do with the thousands of ducats you accumulate in the midgame or early game wars.
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Sep 13, 2022 16:15
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Red Bones posted:There's an event in the new patch that lets you flip to Norse religion lol.
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Sep 13, 2022 16:19
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Wafflecopper posted:Another weird outcome from that mechanic is that you could be say France, have your mainland fully blockaded by England, but have some random island in the Indian Ocean unblockaded and it will somehow keep your national trade income going by itself Wait it's a flat 75% if all ports are blockaded, 0% if not? I assumed it's a scaling penalty.
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Sep 13, 2022 16:50
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Eu5, with a non-terrible trade system, needs to come out soon.
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Sep 13, 2022 17:33
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Hellioning posted:Eu5, with a non-terrible trade system, needs to come out soon.
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Sep 13, 2022 18:01
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Hellioning posted:Eu5, with a non-terrible trade system, needs to come out soon. Honestly trade and supply lines could be modeled by similar systems, I'd like to see the transition from foraging to professional supply.
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Sep 13, 2022 18:45
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Staltran posted:Wait it's a flat 75% if all ports are blockaded, 0% if not? I assumed it's a scaling penalty. Reading it again, you could be right. The patch note doesnt really make it clear one way or the other
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Sep 13, 2022 21:23
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Man, the Steam release list is full of porn games as usual Now to wait until Anbennar updates.
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Sep 13, 2022 21:30
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Cynic Jester posted:Man, the Steam release list is full of porn games as usual You should check your Steam preferences so you can avoid all that disgusting Swedish smut gumming up the release lists and recommendations.
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Sep 13, 2022 22:32
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am I crazy or did they say that they were changing Show Strength to satisfy the age of discovery humiliate objective? I swear I read that was a change, just saw it not doing that in game, and now cant find any patch notes about it
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Sep 14, 2022 07:24
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Mr. Grinch posted:am I crazy or did they say that they were changing Show Strength to satisfy the age of discovery humiliate objective? I swear I read that was a change, just saw it not doing that in game, and now cant find any patch notes about it I think they did say that yes
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Sep 14, 2022 13:58
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New patch is good. Also starting as Finland is really hard.
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Sep 15, 2022 00:45
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lol you can just centralize state all your poo poo down to -100% govt cost for free over 20 years if you take a Tier 3 govt reform. This was absolutely not playtested
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Sep 15, 2022 02:44
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Denmark/Scandinavia mission tree gives you permanently discounted, cheaper maintenance, 120% discipline on all mercs, and doesn't reduce professionalism when hired. It's kinda nice! E; Also having 120 max absolutism with a few estate privileges. Scandinavian countries are NOT overpowered! canepazzo fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Sep 15, 2022 |
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Sep 15, 2022 09:09
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After years and years of devs saying there was no OP Sweden (there was) they go and make a paywalled OP Scandinavia. and I'm expected to buy this??
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Sep 15, 2022 13:38
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Leviathan 2.0? I didn't buy the DLC because lol but the sound of it almost makes me want to.
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Sep 15, 2022 13:42
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How is the performance? Still slow and sluggish like a leviathan?TropicalCoke posted:After years and years of devs saying there was no OP Sweden (there was) they go and make a paywalled OP Scandinavia. and I'm expected to buy this??
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Sep 15, 2022 14:11
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Hellioning posted:Eu5, with a non-terrible trade system, needs to come out soon. It is, it's called Victoria 3.
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Sep 15, 2022 14:13
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Mr. Grinch posted:lol you can just centralize state all your poo poo down to -100% govt cost for free over 20 years if you take a Tier 3 govt reform. I love the first days after release of a dlc/patch where there's absolutely broken poo poo to abuse. Like when you could make a custom nation with the siberian frontiers idea at no cost, and start in America  Tell me more about this -100% government cost thing 
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