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Hey I just wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS (p8s was harder in 6.2) on the THE ABYSSOS EIGHTH CIRCLE SAVAGE 6.21 (it was harder in 6.2) CLEAR. I know you've been working really hard (p8s used to be harder) at it, and I'm happy that you've (p8s used to be harder) achieved your goal of completion. I know your journey through (p8s used to be harder) the content was filled with ups and downs, but you and (p8s used to be harder) your group stuck (p8s used to be harder) together through them all, and you were rewarded for your patience and (p8s used to be harder) tenacity. Congratulations (p8s used to be so much harder) once again, and here's to more success in your future (p8s used to be harder) endeavors!!!
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 03:30 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 19:20 |
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Get gif
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 03:33 |
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Red Metal posted:Hey I just wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS (p8s was harder in 6.2) on the THE ABYSSOS EIGHTH CIRCLE SAVAGE 6.21 (it was harder in 6.2) CLEAR. I know you've been working really hard (p8s used to be harder) at it, and I'm happy that you've (p8s used to be harder) achieved your goal of completion. I know your journey through (p8s used to be harder) the content was filled with ups and downs, but you and (p8s used to be harder) your group stuck (p8s used to be harder) together through them all, and you were rewarded for your patience and (p8s used to be harder) tenacity. Congratulations (p8s used to be so much harder) once again, and here's to more success in your future (p8s used to be harder) endeavors!!! true
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 03:43 |
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quote:An issue on the island sanctuary wherein certain animals did not appear despite meeting the requirements to find them. quote:An issue when using the glamour dresser wherein executing the /isearch command with a large number of items in the dresser and Armoire forcibly closed the game client. quote:An issue wherein equipping Isle Farmhand's Boots together with certain other gear caused their graphics to display incorrectly.
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 03:44 |
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oh nice theres potency buffs this patch, can't wait to see the mch changes.
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 04:35 |
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Countblanc posted:oh nice theres potency buffs this patch, can't wait to see the mch changes.
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 04:49 |
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https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/9f7fc966eaf0751728dedd909221983d9208a7c5 Third party tools under attack. quote:Following an investigation, we have identified the original player who illegitimately placed the waymarks and will be issuing an account penalty for illicit activity.
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 04:51 |
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finally
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 04:56 |
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Countblanc posted:oh nice theres potency buffs this patch, can't wait to see the mch changes.
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 04:57 |
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Interesting that they were able to ID the originator even without any serverside verification. Must've taken a bit of detective work.
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 04:58 |
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going by their explanation it mightve been a matter of seeing when the server confirmed a valid position that shouldn'tve happened
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 04:59 |
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finally i am free
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 05:07 |
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another 90 potency to go on fell cleave before i'm satisfied but i guess it's okay for now
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 05:13 |
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Jabbering Idiot posted:I dunno why the thread went off on a tangent bashing Enmity or stance dancing like someone defended it as a system; all I said is that I miss having threat dropping tools because I now unavoidably die all the goddamn time where I wasn't before because they put Enmity entirely under the control of the three tanks out of 24 players, instead of a little bit in everyone's hands. It's a copy of Vanilla and TBC WoW, where the only way to control threat was to stop. Oh, unless you were playing one of the few classes that occasionally manage its own aggro, so, right, I guess it's worse than that version of WoW. didnt read
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 05:35 |
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weird to me they would bother making a 1% adjustment when thats pretty within the margin of smoothed out naturally by gear within...not really that long honestlyHyper Inferno posted:https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/9f7fc966eaf0751728dedd909221983d9208a7c5 smite their rear end Vermain posted:Interesting that they were able to ID the originator even without any serverside verification. Must've taken a bit of detective work. they log an absolute ton on this game, probably almost any real communication with the server i bet. They even did this kind of work in stormblood when the ungarmax exploit was discovered (read more here: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv...113#post4611113. My favorite detail is "As an additional note, while during our investigation we confirmed that several players exploited this bug while undertaking the Unending Coil of Bahamut prior to 2/27, and one player after, none successfully completed the duty."). the markers in question were placed outside the initial starting arenas ground, and ever since they changed it you cant place markers mid combat. This is speculation but it's fairly safe given what I know, but someone either used a plugin to let them change their markers clientside in combat (in this case, would allow them to place after the platform has changed), which wouldnt really flag anything yet. But after that, my guess is they saved that as a preset, and then applied it post wipe, and now everyone has access to it. Alternatively, they just edited the preset directly somehow. Either way, at some point you need to get past it just being clientside, which means the markers have to be sent serverside for placement so the illegal coordinates had to be sent at some point which is identifying enough. True, its possible people were sharing these presets adhoc initially before it broke out through the in game presets, but really anyone in that ring should get punished.
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 05:38 |
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derra posted:The first day has no demand modifiers. You should always be crafting something with a demand modifier (or something to combo into something with a good demand modifier) so the first day should always be a rest. If the second day of the week is a strong day for a particular item, having rested on the first day means you'd be making it with basically no groove. Or has the meta moved towards groove building being wasteful compared to maximizing the output of strong days?
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 06:05 |
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Thundarr posted:If the second day of the week is a strong day for a particular item, having rested on the first day means you'd be making it with basically no groove. Or has the meta moved towards groove building being wasteful compared to maximizing the output of strong days? I believe so. You only have so many output days, and since there's a cap that even a daily 4 craft cycle'll hit before the end of the week, pushing groove up early has a maximum potential benefit that is generally outweighed by the cowrie difference. In addition, the last days of a week, all things being equal, will be closer to optimal as we get more information from the demand cycle. It's there that the groove difference is smallest to nonexistent. Finally, optimizing around supply is a huge difference. Even an insufficient is equivalent to 30% groove (different multipliers so not quite one to one); you're actually giving up quite a lot by having a preset on day 1 before you can react to supply. I'm also not sold on the behavior when you craft things that was detailed in the image going around. I crafted 3 firesand earlier in the week (not 3 x2 efficiency bonus, literally the first craft of the day was firesand) with the intent of doing a (firesand -> rapier)x2 combo later on in the week, only exceeding 8 firesand at the end of the final craft, but firesand supply was bumped up to Surplus after only the original 3. It was the only firesand I had crafted to that time. I can't count on requiring 8 for a bump, and most of the 4 hours you'd want to use are important for combo crafts later on when you will have some groove and potentially supply bonuses as well. (I am only going to assume that I can double up on an item when it's the literal peak day for that item this week). Is it possible for a groove schedule to be optimal for a given week? Yes, I believe so, but I also think it's unlikely, only really determinable in hindsight and probably won't be a huge spread. To me, groove is only worth purposely building if day 2 is exceptionally weak or if an optimal early-week craft is a 6h, so you can compare 4-6-4-6-4 with a more standard 4-6-8-6 or 6-6-6-6. That being said, I don't use the calculator, didn't quite understand demand, pumped groove the first day last week and still got 22.5k so it's definitely competitive. Going to concentrate on moneymakers this week though. derra fucked around with this message at 07:03 on Sep 13, 2022 |
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So just to be clear: is the idea w/ groove building just “spend your first day chaining the most valuable 4-hour crafts you can”?
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 07:34 |
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i heard that "Groove is in the heart"
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 07:37 |
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oh boy i sure hope hardcore raiders ruin xivlauncher for the rest of us
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 08:47 |
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RME posted:smite their rear end Question: How exactly does placing waymarks in non-grounded locations give anyone an unfair advantage in any way? Waymarks have no in-game effect whatsoever. They don't allow you to do more damage, take less, or provide any sort of hidden information. They're just simple graphical reminders for people with poo poo memories.
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 09:28 |
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This specific set of waymarks does enable a really braineead strat in what is otherwise one of the hardest mechanics in the fight. That said, their response includes "we'll let you do this legit now" so it's not like they view the waymarks themselves as a problem, just the method of creation
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 09:38 |
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Offkorn posted:Question: How exactly does placing waymarks in non-grounded locations give anyone an unfair advantage in any way? You can't do it without a mod, that's all it is. There's no way to place waymarks in those positions with the basic game initially, unless you're copying waymarks from someone who copied it from someone who copied it from someone who did it via a mod. The unfair advantage is it can only be done via mods, which only work on computer (and are against TOS). If you think this is ridiculous, it is, but thems the rules. This is also why they're explicitly changing it so you can put waymarks in those none ground locations, it just isn't in 6.21.
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 09:40 |
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Island sanctuary craft optimisation is one of those in game things where I've just decided I won't dedicate any brain space to understanding how any of it works and that's fine. I show up at my island every few days, my animals are miserable, I queue up about 3-4 crafts based on what I already have materials for that has high ish demand right now and then I leave. My groove is always zero I do not know how groove works and I do not care to find out.
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 10:40 |
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RME posted:Alternatively, they just edited the preset directly somehow. Third party tools do not let you place waymarks in combat, that's a game limitation. The plug-in that lets you store 5 presets per fight instead of in total and import/export markers to text also lets you edit the actual coordinates in the saved presets, mostly as a side-effect.
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 11:18 |
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got the 17k cowrie achievement today at 17158. thought I was supposed to get like 20k according to the spreadsheet but I probably hosed something up.
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 11:56 |
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I only use waymarks to spell C1D in Castrum.
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 12:43 |
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derra posted:workshop stuff Thanks, that's pretty helpful. It does make the ideal workshop rotation more complicated though if you're trying to maximize the peak days of even filler items and trying to make combos out of them. Also, if you're making all five of the big money crafts in a week (possible if unlikely), you'll start running through rare mats faster than the granaries can obtain them. Even making just four in a week can make the rare mat logistics kind of fiddly if you aren't really careful with them. And full disclosure, I still had a nearly 20k week using the previous "build groove the first two days, plan the next three based on Insufficient+Skyrocketing tags" method, so if anybody is just shooting to get that title you can still definitely do it while just sticking to a simpler routine.
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 13:05 |
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Offkorn posted:Question: How exactly does placing waymarks in non-grounded locations give anyone an unfair advantage in any way? i've been pfing savage for just about all of endwalker, so i can say with confidence that there's a good amount of players that just completely shut down mentally for spread mechanics if they don't have a waymark to beeline towards. the "hidden information" in this case is basically the the size of player-based aoes while outside the bounds of the original area
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Mainwaring posted:Island sanctuary craft optimisation is one of those in game things where I've just decided I won't dedicate any brain space to understanding how any of it works and that's fine. I show up at my island every few days, my animals are miserable, I queue up about 3-4 crafts based on what I already have materials for that has high ish demand right now and then I leave. your islands groove may be zero but based on this post i'd say the groove in your heart and soul is maxed out
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 13:26 |
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The spreadsheet is real useful but it has the occassional error until it updates, and also even with the new thing that tells you when items peak it's hard to tell which items that peak combo to get groove and money. I'm currently paralyzed on what to make on D2, and not even sure if to just rest (because I loving forgot to plant isleberries so I can't combo Tomat->Isleberry...)
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 13:39 |
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Thundarr posted:Thanks, that's pretty helpful. It does make the ideal workshop rotation more complicated though if you're trying to maximize the peak days of even filler items and trying to make combos out of them. Big item doesn't always mean granary mat, I compare popularity weighted cowries per hour. This week, for example, scale fingers and crook are on top of the list. I'm gonna try Tomato Relish -> Butter-> Isleberry Jam -> Butter -> Jam for tomorrow. All 3 are having peaks of one sort or another. Butter has only a weak peak, but its' high popularity pushes it over relish anyway. We'll also get 12 groove which isn't bad at all. For curiosity, I checked the spreadsheet and they're running (Sauerkraut -> Corn Flakes) x3? Putting that on my sheet, I'm not seeing the cowries they see even ignoring that you might get a supply hit at the end of the day. If someone is running that, can they verify it's accurate tomorrow (3090 if you're running in all 3)? derra fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Sep 13, 2022 |
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Regalingualius posted:So just to be clear: is the idea w/ groove building just “spend your first day chaining the most valuable 4-hour crafts you can”? A more specific reason you want to do it this way is that on Day 3 you can predict Day 4 with 100% accuracy, and on Day 4 you can predict the rest of the week with 100% accuracy. Groove builders tend to be easy on the rare mats and grown stuff, so you can use Day 2 and Day 3 to hit 30/35 groove (you rested Day 1 because you can't predict it at all) and stockpile rare/farm mats for the rest of the week. At that point, if you've been keeping track, you know exactly what to craft on each day to hit that day's peak.
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 13:54 |
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Sauerkraut -> Corn Flakes x3 seems like it'd be the best; Squid Ink -> Tomato Relish x3 might be almost as good, but Squid Ink has a high popularity this week so I'll avoid contaminating the supply on that one in case it peaks day 3. I'll have to get some more rock salt though, ugh.
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Grayshift posted:Sauerkraut -> Corn Flakes x3 seems like it'd be the best; Squid Ink -> Tomato Relish x3 might be almost as good, but Squid Ink has a high popularity this week so I'll avoid contaminating the supply on that one in case it peaks day 3. edit: i am the idiot Warmachine fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Sep 13, 2022 |
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Pretty sure he means (Sauerkraut -> Corn Flakes) x3. Please if someone runs that can you tell me how many cowries you end up getting? The spreadsheet is showing that way higher than I'm calculating it myself (corn flakes and jam are essentially tied per hour, but butter and relish are blowing out sauerkraut today) and I don't know if I have a major mistake in my calculations. Thanks!
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 14:06 |
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Just follow the recommendation channel in the discord imo, it updates everyday to the optimal choice for that day.
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 14:12 |
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Sauerkraut and corn flakes? Blech.
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 14:17 |
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banned for using waymarks to illegally spell out "dicbag"
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Algid posted:Just follow the recommendation channel in the discord imo, it updates everyday to the optimal choice for that day. That supposes a small problem for people who don't want to join 50 discords, that poo poo is cancerous just loving post it somewhere else.
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