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Solitair posted:Made progress in Ruina, finally. Made Red phase 1 tolerable by using Gebura's infinity die to get rid of the wolf's counter dice and boosting Red's strength with her mass attack. Came close to freeing a librarian in phase 2, but didn't quite manage it. Lost Gebura during phase 3, so I had no real chance during phase 4. I used Red Mist's page on Gebura, with an Allen and three Emmas, stacked with power passives for their type of damage and as many hauler passives as I could get. Thinking maybe I need to turn one Emma into a pierce specialist to help out with phase 4? There are three possible ways I realistically see SotC going, and one of them is beelining me right into TRM at the very start of it, then forcing me into Geb Realization asap by doing the rest of the setup for Tiph's and then hers. Frankly, I welcome it. 
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I'm definitely not going to vote for that route. My voting plan for SOTC is basically going to be "Get King of Greed and Netzach's Realization out of the way early on, do Part 1 of Thumb or Liu S. 2 to quickly unlock Hokma so Roland can do Snow Queen, go through Tier One while idly knocking out every Abno as we go (Mountain of Smiling Bodies, Road Home + Scaredy Cat, Big Bird and Burrowing Heaven), then knock out R Corp 1 before Red Mist, then Liu S. 1 for Tiph Realization, then Gebura, then hopefully do Index Proxies for Chesed Realization (Price of Silence + Blue Star and Punishing Bird + Judgement Bird could also get done at this point but I'm not picky)" and after that point I'm fine with whatever order the last tier of SOTC is done. I'm still not sure if people in the thread will feel pity for Phillip after this event or not. Pluto getting revealed as Yesterday's Promise will freak them out, though.
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TeeQueue posted:There are three possible ways I realistically see SotC going, and one of them is beelining me right into TRM at the very start of it, then forcing me into Geb Realization asap by doing the rest of the setup for Tiph's and then hers. I forget which fight unlocks Tiphereth realization. If you welcome it, mind refreshing me?
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AweStriker posted:I forget which fight unlocks Tiphereth realization. If you welcome it, mind refreshing me? it's Liu Section 1, middle-right Tier 2 of SOTC.
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More progress. Freed the librarian from Cobalt Scar, but then Gebura got staggered and lost the effect of unlocked Red Mist against Smile. Then I got Gebura killed against Dipsia by having her clash against him right at the start of the phase. I got to phase 3 Mimicry, but without Gebura I had no chance of getting through its defenses. Aside from Gebura misplays, my problem was that the assistant librarians didn't have enough light restore. Maybe I can tweak their poo poo and switch out one of their expensive cards with another cheap light restore, but I get the feeling that the best they can do at the end is chump clash to free up Gebura for one-sided attacks. Edit: Done. Gebura's realization really does hinge on whether or not you know how to use the Red Mist keypage properly. Non-Gebura combatants were able to get some hits in on fully evolved Mimicry, so I guess Smoke does work if you stack it high enough. Guess I'll see if I can handle the Price of Silence fight soon. Solitair fucked around with this message at 07:21 on Sep 12, 2022 |
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Assuming you pull a roughly equal amount of Identities for all 12 characters and no synergy is stronger than any other (aka, it's literally just up to personal taste), which 5-Sinner team do you think you're going to rock in Limbus Company? Right now, my team is something like Outis/Don/Gregor/Meursault/Hong Lu, but I'm open to being surprised and every Sinner intrigues me at least a little in some way or another.
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Solitair posted:More progress. Freed the librarian from Cobalt Scar, but then Gebura got staggered and lost the effect of unlocked Red Mist against Smile. Then I got Gebura killed against Dipsia by having her clash against him right at the start of the phase. I got to phase 3 Mimicry, but without Gebura I had no chance of getting through its defenses. Aside from Gebura misplays, my problem was that the assistant librarians didn't have enough light restore. Maybe I can tweak their poo poo and switch out one of their expensive cards with another cheap light restore, but I get the feeling that the best they can do at the end is chump clash to free up Gebura for one-sided attacks.
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Solitair posted:More progress. Freed the librarian from Cobalt Scar, but then Gebura got staggered and lost the effect of unlocked Red Mist against Smile. Then I got Gebura killed against Dipsia by having her clash against him right at the start of the phase. I got to phase 3 Mimicry, but without Gebura I had no chance of getting through its defenses. Aside from Gebura misplays, my problem was that the assistant librarians didn't have enough light restore. Maybe I can tweak their poo poo and switch out one of their expensive cards with another cheap light restore, but I get the feeling that the best they can do at the end is chump clash to free up Gebura for one-sided attacks. Ah, my least favorite abnormality fight, huh? It's not even that bad ( if you know how to build for it ) - but it simply isn't fun. iirc I cheated my rear end off to get through this (via mods) my first playthrough. Unfortunately I don't actually remember how to build for it so I can't give you any tips. "press p" is funny, but given the fact it gives all librarians a 0-cost page with a downside in their hand and not the extra deck for some reason it never really worked out for me. also as a side note about red mist deckbuilding: I liked to run 1x Focus Spirit (replacing one of the steel knuckles). Leading block die can be useful for geb and its a non-trivial amount of power gain. as a final note: guns are the most powerful force in the universe. If you're having trouble with a fight, try shooting them to death. this is not a joke. (more specifically, full stop passives with thumb pages for melee+ranged and spamming as many good dice as you can.)
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DuoRogue posted:Ah, my least favorite abnormality fight, huh? It's not even that bad ( if you know how to build for it ) - but it simply isn't fun. iirc I cheated my rear end off to get through this (via mods) my first playthrough. Unfortunately I don't actually remember how to build for it so I can't give you any tips. "press p" is funny, but given the fact it gives all librarians a 0-cost page with a downside in their hand and not the extra deck for some reason it never really worked out for me.
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GilliamYaeger posted:Press P is only the first step, the second step is quickly going through your actions to pick out the trap cards and, if you have the time, replace them. I'm very aware my first playthrough's decks were Wildly Suboptimal but this is actually what I tried there as well. Though again it is almost definitely a deckbuilding issue
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For that particular realization, I recommend against my initial strategy, which was to do really well without using the special page, then play it for fun when I was nearly done, then remember that one of my librarians was running Yujin. That did not go well.
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Here's what I had: Gebura had The Red Mist's Page with Grace of the Prescript, Health Hauler and Mind Hauler. 3x Upstanding Slash, 3x Spear, 2x Level Slash, 1x Focus Spirit. Gabriel Marquez had Allen's Page with Wedge, Remain Vigilant in Peace, Firm as a Great Mountain and Piercer. Frontal Assault, Wedging Thorn, Extract Fuel, Dagger Press, Shoving Stab, Gale Kick, Will of the Prescript, Sturdy Defense, Stiletto. Marcel Proust, Orhan Pamuk and Miguel Cervantes all had Emma's Page with Puppet Skeleton, Health Hauler, Mind Hauler, Internal Combustion Engine and Puffy Brume. Puppet Blockade, Gigigig, Inhale Smoke, Steel Knuckles, Smoke Prick, Repressed Flesh, Forceful Gesture, Deep Drag, Loss of Senses. I'm gonna try bringing the latter four key pages to Price of Silence and see how that works out. Not sure how to handle remnants with bonuses to clashes, since if I'm unlucky I'll have to clash at least once with them anyway, but I figure if I tag them with Deep Drag as soon as possible I've got it in the bag anyway.
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Solitair posted:Here's what I had:
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Tokyo Game Show has officially started. Project Moon's segment is coming on Saturday. I really wish I could be in Japan to see their booth and play the demo. https://twitter.com/LimbusCompany_B/status/1569817341588021248
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https://www.4gamer.net/games/635/G063540/20220915186/ Today's just a day for devs and the press, so we've got some shots of dialogue (Sinclair saying the place stinks, Faust saying they need to get the Bough, and Dante revealing that not only is he not a silent protagonist, but also that he rewinds time when the Sinners die) but not much else. Shaky hand cam coverage of fights and animations won't come until tomorrow when the general public comes in.
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Junpei posted:https://www.4gamer.net/games/635/G063540/20220915186/ Or instead of relying on that, Project Moon can just directly give us gameplay footage to watch! It premiers in about 90 minutes from the time of posting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqrfJsmiFck
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Probe 17 posted:Or instead of relying on that, Project Moon can just directly give us gameplay footage to watch! It premiers in about 90 minutes from the time of posting. I was just about to link that, lol, thanks for taking care of that. I do have something else to note about Dante though that I just found out. So here's his time rewind line, in Japanese:  Translation: <And every time one of you dies, I will have to turn back the clock again and again.> One thing to note immediately just from the line itself: Dante's using "omaetachi", the rude plural version of "you" in Japanese. Clock man's annoyed as hell. Two other things are also noticable when you compare it to Sinclair and Faust's lines:   1. Above Sinclair and Faust's personal names is the words printed on their weapons, "Vogel" and "Walpurgisnacht". We'd seen this before on the website, Heathcliff had a cut-off line on that shot of a Smoke War battlefield with "Revenge" above his name, and Outis had the same in a shot of her talking to Gregor (it was just her name but put in the Greek alphabet, though). Dante did have an Italian one of those in his initial art-"Durante", meaning "during", but in his dialogue, he doesn't have it here. 2. Dante has <these> around his dialogue, and Sinclair and Faust do not. I'm not sure if that means this is his internal monologue, or because he lacks a mouth he talks via telepathy, or if it's something else.
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Well, it was mostly just a mix of UI updates and E.G.O. demonstrations. We got to see a new Hong Lu E.G.O., along with Fourth Match Flame Ryoshu's attack animation. Considering we have an entire 50 minute stream coming soon, it's still nice to get a little taste beforehand.
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Some person on Twitter got to play through it, gave their impressions of the cast/characters from the story you get before/after/between fights: https://twitter.com/heathLament/status/1570660462001557507?s=20&t=ryWuaICeFSsZQLfE52bLjA Thanks to "prixt" from a Project Moon discord I'm in for providing translations for this whole chain. I cleaned up some jank wording/minor typos but nothing more. quote:-EGO effects are great and much more detailed in person.
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So in Ruina I'm up to the fight against Pluto and there seems to be a bug where I just can't see the cards half of the shades are using. Is there a workaround for that, or does anyone even know? The only place on the internet I found talking about it is this reddit thread. Considering this fight is cheesable it might not be that big of a deal but it's making it nigh impossible to play properly.
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weird, ive never seen that. frankly, the cheese strat for that fight is cool enough that I don't think anyone should feel bad about using it, its extremely satisfying
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https://twitter.com/I_loveyouangela/status/1570734902177599488 Apparently, there is an English version of the demo over there! It's not just Japanese.
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More info coming in from various quick translations-it appears that, while the Sinners can understand Dante perfectly fine, non-Sinners (there are three side characters in this scenario named Yuri, Aya and Hopkins, all Grade 8 Fixers) perceive his dialogue as just him making ticking sounds. Also, Outis makes a Binah Crazy Eye Smile. 
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BM Model # Gacha - Gacha will be using Lunacy, a cash purchasable currency. - If you roll an Identity you already own, you will be able to obtain Identity shards depending on rarity. - Shards can be collected to craft Identities. # Battlepass - Battle pass will provide rewards for game progress for a set amount of time. - Pass level can be increased via missions or Mirror Dungeon. - Main reward will be EGO. - Rewards are basic rewards and premium pass rewards. - Basic rewards are available by simply playing. Premium rewards and extra basic rewards are available for battle pass users. - Basic rewards are in-game currency and Season story-central EGOs. - Premium rewards are Level Up tickets, Identity Shard Boxes, Announcer pack, & extra EGOs. - Battle pass is seasonal. When a new season starts, the previous battle pass ends, and new EGO and rewards begin. - EGO from previous seasons will be craftable after two seasons using Identity shards. # Seasons - Each season will have new main content and story updates. - Each season is planned to be 3~4 months. - Each season will have new rewards and EGO. - At the end of each season, a certain amount of shards will be transferred to the next season. -- This is to make the resource used for 'ceiling' more useful for multiple seasons. - If you want to get the new Identities in the new season early, you can save the shards. - If you want to be efficient, you can spend shards to craft the EGO available at the end of the season. # Monthly Payment - Monthly payment provides in-game currency, but won't be necessary to experience major in-game content. # Battle Announcer - Voice acted announcer will respond to in-game events.
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studio mujahideen posted:weird, ive never seen that. frankly, the cheese strat for that fight is cool enough that I don't think anyone should feel bad about using it, its extremely satisfying drat did i cheese it wrong or something? because it took ages and was boring as hell. It's funny sure but I found actually engaging with the boss' mechanics to be more fun. Junpei posted:LC stuff dupes letting you buy ones you don't have is cool. not a huge fan of the battle pass in any iteration i've seen of it, most of the good games i play don't have one, and I'm especially ehhh about locking out EGO, even if its only for a limited time, especially because that "limited time" is half a year. Maybe the battle pass will be cheap enough, but... ...if i'm reading this right, you can't hoard dupe resources? it says "a certain amount" will be transfered, so if you have above that amount when the season changes, you just lose shards, im guessing.... Remains to be seen, but I don't like the vibes of that.
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DuoRogue posted:drat did i cheese it wrong or something? because it took ages and was boring as hell. It's funny sure but I found actually engaging with the boss' mechanics to be more fun. Pluto is interesting in that while he's totally doable by engaging with his mechanics, it feels totally on par with his story to instead cheese him to death with loopholes. On the Limbus Company side of things, from what little I've gathered from people who have played previous gachas, the thing about anti-hoarding is that it (supposedly) serves as an "anti-whaling" mechanic since it disincentives players from spending a ton of money to accumulate a bunch of dupe shards all at once since, you know, you lose all of said shards once the season rolls over. Personally speaking, I'm not sure if that's what happens in practice but I've been taking the wait-and-see approach to all of the gacha aspects of Limbus before I solidify any opinion on that aspect. From what it looks like, on release Limbus Company will probably have at least three chapters given that apparently the demo showcased a screen that teased the three story dungeons and their chapters. Apparently the chapter names were roughly translated to "Nightmare", "Sin" (or alternatively, "Crime"), and "Incubation". First story dungeon is Smoke War themed, which is unsurprising given what we have seen from the teasers so far. Second story dungeon is that one frozen cathedral that was briefly shown in the first promo video and the third story dungeon looks like a pink mountain of bodies (also briefly shown in the first promo video iirc). Furthermore, there was some speculation that each of the story dungeons is related with a specific Sinner, and the order of the story dungeons would be the order in which the Sinners were first announced. This is mostly conjecture at this point, but the idea stems from the fact that Gregor and Rodya were the first and second Sinners to be announced. Gregor and the Smoke War dungeon is pretty self-explanatory at this point. Rodya had an ice motif going on in her promo vid and her source material Crime and Punishment apparently features heavy emphasis on religion also which ties into the "frozen cathedral" motif going on in the second dungeon. Following that theory, the third dungeon (pink mountain) would be related to... Sinclair. While I don't see any connection with the dungeon itself with Sinclair and his source material, the chapter name, "Incubation", does relate to Sinclair's icon of an egg. If the theory is true, then we would be seeing twelve (maybe 13 if Dante gets in the action) main story dungeons in the order of: Gregor-Rodya-Sinclair-Yi Sang-Ishmael-Heathcliff-Don Quixote-Hong Lu-Ryoshu-Meursault-Outis-Faust That order seems pretty reasonable story-wise, Outis and Faust seem to be pretty significant to Limbus Company in some way, with Outis' profile being super sus and Faust being the creator of the bus's engine. Also makes sense that the people who both have more obvious flaws and struggle with said flaws to go through their realization-like events first (Gregor, Rodya, and Sinclair). Only weird thing about this order would be the fact that Yi Sang, who seems both relatively (emphasis on relatively) well-adjusted and significant to the backstory of Limbus (He's the one behind the Identity mechanic if Leviathan is any indication) has his dungeon up so early. I can't read, Junpei already mentioned the text that I had struck-through. Loxo321 fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Sep 19, 2022 |
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Library of Ruina: No much luck with Purple Tear so far. I've been seeing some strats about not even trying to win clashes and just getting as many one-sided attacks in as possible, especially with added bleed, burn and fairy. I could also set up two floors of power-stacking damage type specialists instead of just one? Regardless, my annoyance/anxiety about having to go back and get books I've already won has never been higher. Nexus Mods has a way to skip that grind, but I can't get their stuff to work on LoR for some reason.
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Solitair posted:Library of Ruina: No much luck with Purple Tear so far. I've been seeing some strats about not even trying to win clashes and just getting as many one-sided attacks in as possible, especially with added bleed, burn and fairy. I could also set up two floors of power-stacking damage type specialists instead of just one?
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GilliamYaeger posted:Just use Thumb keypages and Full Stop pages and passives to set up a firing squad floor and instantly kill her once she does her half health teleport poo poo. You can essentially cheese like 90% of the receptions in the game like this, for what it's worth.
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Theantero posted:You can essentially cheese like 90% of the receptions in the game like this, for what it's worth. I was not joking when I said guns are the strongest force in the universe. there are basically two endgame boss fights I think can't be nobrained by full stop passives and its because full stop passives don't work in those fights. Fun fact: since warp team passives (ex reaction force) do untyped damage, it's possible to use them to defeat gun-immune enemies by shooting them with guns and having it proc.
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TGS pushed the Tripbooking over the 150000 mark, every player's getting a free Blade Lineage Yi Sang!
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https://twitter.com/ProjMoonStudio/status/1572468824859090944 Blade Lineage Yi Sang attack.
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So I'm trying to pick the game back up after stopping on urban plague due to getting stomped by the later stages. What should I be shooting for when it comes to a load out?
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DrManiac posted:So I'm trying to pick the game back up after stopping on urban plague due to getting stomped by the later stages. What should I be shooting for when it comes to a load out? At late Urban Plague, you'll probably want to start including a handful of light regen and page draw cards into your decks. Clean Up from Kurokumo is probably your best option for light regen at this point. If you're talking specific builds, you have plenty of paralysis cards assuming you've cleared Gaze Office. Said paralysis cards synergize pretty well with the Workshop cards (A lot of Pierce dice on the Gaze cards and Workshop comes with the Mend Weapon card which boosts Pierce power) that you get from one of the Urban Plague general receptions, so look into that. If you've managed to complete Wedge Office (Node after Dawn Office), you'll have a healthy supply of Pierce +1 power key pages that you can passive attribute for greater consistency. On the Slash side of things, you've got plenty of bleed stuff with Kurokumo and Rusted Chains (Another general reception). Since Clean Up also inflicts bleed, stacking a bunch of slash-bleed cards on multiple librarians and going ham on Hod's floor is definitely a possibility. Hod's floor is also great for playing defensively, so consider using Walter with a bunch of block dice on Hod's floor also if you're so inclined. Though I've rarely done it myself, a Full-Stop building stacking multiple Full-Stop passives on multiple Librarians is a very popular build for quickly gunning down enemies on turn 1, though this has the side effect of not netting you as many pages. Finally, though the big Blunt stuff isn't here yet, running a supportive Blunt build using Bremen pages (Red Notes, Tendon Chords, and Unforgettable Melody) can work pretty well on Yesod's floor. Loosen Up might be better than Clean Up as a light regen card in this case if you want to go all in on Blunt. My biggest recommendation is to look at your floors and their Abno pages, and build your decks around those. That, and exploit the passive attribution system for all that its worth. Brotherhood of Iron pages contains one of the most economical passives in the game in the form of Electric Shock, which inflicts Paralysis at a 25% chance with every hit. Paralysis is in general more accessible than power-stacking in Urban Plague, just something to consider. So roughly speaking deck-wise, you'll probably be aiming for: - At least 2 light regen cards - One to two page draw cards - One (maybe two) three-cost cards - A mix of two-cost and one-cost cards to fill out the rest With an emphasis of the latter two categories (and also the earlier two categories if possible) generally being centered around some sort of theme (Paralysis, Bleed, Sustain, Abno card, etc.)
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