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precision posted:i need to learn to stop playing these events where the gimmick lends itself to one obvious and stupid strategy (mono red removal/haste) because the matchmaker knows to only ever match me against people who have crafted the absolute most bullshit thing to get the wins Are there any formats you do like?
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I decided to do an SNC Quick Draft because there's a lot of cards in the set I got, like, two copies of but want 4, and I wanted to redeem my first terrible one (very first after going back to Magic). https://www.17lands.com/draft/bdd6f25a0b414cadb167a02b2ee5f099 pretty happy with the result, so far it's 2-1. Also pretty lucky, I'm aware.  Open for suggestions!
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Sep 15, 2022 18:17
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Lone Goat posted:Game in Hand win rate (GIH) Cheers. How's this one looking? Took a sharp turn after the first few picks when i got passed a late Tatyova, and I think i managed to assemble something vaguely solid. https://www.17lands.com/deck/fdb4ad81c81344adb73d9f11f21c4f1f/1
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Sep 15, 2022 18:28
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 Opponent was forced to Gix my Sanctuary Warden out of my graveyard because it was the only legal target while I had a face-up Touch the Spirit Realm in my hand lol... I could hear Jim Davis's Jim Ross "Bah gawd don't do this" clip playing as it happened Edit: hmm i hate my opponent's deck but I also love it lol  Yeesh, this was the end state, hoped to deck them in the end since all my Wardens were in my last ten cards apparently lol, that took 40 minutes 
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Sep 15, 2022 18:31
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King Keltair posted:This was great, I kept going in the event each day because of how much I was enjoying myself. Only lost once to a burn deck, and going back that was just because I misspent my removal. I'm running something similar in standard. It's not great, but it's fun and it can win some games. My decklist is weeks out of date though, it got to have so many one-ofs that I just turned it into a Brawl deck using Tatsunari. And then artisan came along. Man I'm gonna miss artisan, I was playing past my daily wins too for the joy of skyturtling. How often does artisan come around? If you're willing to stay more BUG-ish, I really like Kotose in this kind of deck. Recurring her won me a few games. And prob would have won me even more if I knew the meta. Or if I thought a little harder. It's an interesting tension sometimes, deciding whether to take what's useful now or to take what might neuter their deck. There's also Mirrorshell Crab as a permanent that's also a counterspell. I'm not sure if the 4x Jewel Thief is still solid in standard, I added it after seeing the artisan meta, but it might be! Pretty good vs cheap removal and anvil tokens. Also Slogurk + Takenuma is amazing. Slogurk with any of those legendary lands is great but Takenuma can act like a serious combat trick if you luck into milling lands. palamedes fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Sep 15, 2022 |
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Sep 15, 2022 19:23
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Simply Simon posted:I decided to do an SNC Quick Draft because there's a lot of cards in the set I got, like, two copies of but want 4, and I wanted to redeem my first terrible one (very first after going back to Magic).
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Sep 15, 2022 21:02
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Funny, looks like wizards forgot to mention in the in-game description for this new phyrexian singleton event that it's actually alchemy  didn't these events used to be that you would pay in once and everyone gets the same predetermined cards styles for each win? This one it's random and it's competitive, so you have to pay again to enter if you lose. at least there's dupe protection, but still. kinda sucks they're pushing alchemy this way. i might be tempted if it was just standard
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Sep 15, 2022 22:09
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Consume your loot boxes within loot boxes built upon loot boxes. Our shareholders demand it.
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Sep 15, 2022 22:18
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yeah i'm not paying into this event lol
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Sep 15, 2022 22:18
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I did but only because for some reason I thought it was one of the ones where you didn't get kicked out after so many losses so you'd eventually recoup your entry fee and could throw together whatever jank you wanted in a low-stakes, fun-time environment. Got my jank kicked to the curb.
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Sep 15, 2022 22:36
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Hooplah posted:Funny, looks like wizards forgot to mention in the in-game description for this new phyrexian singleton event that it's actually alchemy This is the original format. The predetermined card styles for each win was a variation.
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Sep 15, 2022 23:02
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It's really funny that the poison counters are keyed off Phyrexian type because I've won a few games because they let through an actual phyrexian card while blocking the perpetually modified ones.
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Sep 15, 2022 23:29
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:"The goal is always no bad drafts. You want to always get at least 3-3 in your bad drafts. Don't tank. Don't have a 0-3 or 1-3 draft." -- Jim Davis this is how ive always approached it but im glad to hear it from other (much better) players 3-3 is almost breakeven at reward and variance so should be a target imo
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Sep 16, 2022 00:20
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thespaceinvader posted:This deck walks an absolute razor's edge of efficiency and it wins or loses on mulls. I found running it for a few weeks on 4 wins wasn't enough to get out of plat, but it's got a 50% plus winrate, so it gets you there eventually, but it can be quite streaky and frustrating in short runs. 3 or 4 matches in a row where you mull to 0 before seeing a Minion gets kinda frustrating. Maybe if you play for 4 wins a day it might take a while to climb the ladder, but I always play to the 15 daily wins and stop there... and today after a few weeks on ladder I just beat up rank #464 and broke into the numbered ranks myself:   A few seasons ago I was in the top 900, maybe I can do it again.
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Hammer Bro. posted:I did but only because for some reason I thought it was one of the ones where you didn't get kicked out after so many losses so you'd eventually recoup your entry fee and could throw together whatever jank you wanted in a low-stakes, fun-time environment. You probably thought this because that's how it was at least for SNC, which made for a great, fun way to buy cosmetics. Very sad to see them revert.
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10 minutes later... I want to highlight that my last opponent *would* have won, but they made a common sequencing mistake that I see a lot of opponents do:  Opp killed my first Minion with a Turn 1 Fatal Push. Some turns later, I top-decked another Minion, gave it haste with Reckless Charge, and did Scale Up while holding Wild Shape in my hand. Scale Up turns Minion to a 6/4 Wurm, and Wild Shape changes it to a 1/3 Hexproof Turtle. The opponent got nervous and attempted to Vanishing Verse after I played Reckless Charge and while Scale Up was still on the stack. But, I still needed to attack as a 6-power to slam the dragon. If the opp had simply waited for the Scale Up to resolve (there was no harm in doing so), I would not have been able to save my Minion with Wild Shape without it turning back to a 1/3 Turtle and not having enough power to trigger a dragon. But because they got antsy and tried to remove Minion with Scale Up still on the stack, I was able to change it to the hexproof turtle, then the Verse resolves, THEN the Scale Up resovles and changes it back to a 6/4, and I win. So if they knew what they were doing they would have fizzled me and won guaranteed, but thankfully even Mythic players don't appreciate these subtleties yet. Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Sep 16, 2022 |
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Sep 16, 2022 00:53
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sometimes one mis sequences it happens but when youre on the plus side :chefskiss:
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Share Bear posted:sometimes one mis sequences it happens Yeah but I'd bet that opponent might go on to never realize what their mistake was and repeat it in the future. Like I'm proud to get into top 1000 again but only a little bit, because jeez the top players are boneheaded in Arena. I believe it when IRL tournament players say they have to go back to playing MTGO because the Arena competition is so soft.
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Sep 16, 2022 01:27
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The other thing to consider is that your opponent doesn't actually know what cards you have in hand, so what is an obvious misplay when you have the relevant cards in front of you can be much less obvious from the other side of the table. Like, if you think your opponent might have Bolt Bend, you want to play your interaction before Scale Up resolves. And for most of the general hexproof-granting stuff, it doesn't matter whether they play it before or after. Wild Shape is the only card where playing it before is wrong.
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Sep 16, 2022 01:33
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as someone who has accidentally put generous visitor counters on enemy creatures like a dozen times when i was trying to exile them with a tuuch the spirit realm or whatever im absolutely not surprised. playing on mobile for some reason makes it super easy to just punt games
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Boxman posted:You probably thought this because that's how it was at least for SNC, which made for a great, fun way to buy cosmetics. Very sad to see them revert. It was also that way (infinite play festivals) for Eldraine, Theros, Zendikar, Kaldheim and Midnight Hunt, the limited-play for cosmetic events only started with Crimson Vow Zero VGS posted:Maybe if you play for 4 wins a day it might take a while to climb the ladder, but I always play to the 15 daily wins and stop there... and today after a few weeks on ladder I just beat up rank #464 and broke into the numbered ranks myself: Sneaky OP with the CC sleeves for elves. Do you disinclude Obosh from your deck to keep your Bo1 opponents from knowing what you're up to?
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Sep 16, 2022 01:59
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Lone Goat posted:Are there any formats you do like? i love Standard and Explorer because i tend to just do well in them without encountering too much bullshit don't get me wrong, i love Limited too. i just wish i was as good/lucky at Premium Draft as i am at Sealed and Quick Draft =\ edit:also, complaining works, because i went 5 wins at my next attempt at the event lmao
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Event #22 My P1P1 choice was between Cruelty of Gix and Tolarian Geyser and I think that (unduly?) shaped the whole draft lol. I could have had three geysers in pack 1, but it felt like there was a comparable black card at each pick too. I steered into the domain deck so I leaned into green cards even though I kept getting passed Cavaliers. I think this holds together even if it doesn't seem super impressive...? The blue splash for Micromancer and Espionage is probably better than two badgers?
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 Draft: https://www.17lands.com/draft/321b76711e4c442dbcc5b423446bf69b Pool: https://sealeddeck.tech/MHdpkGGODA Having a rough go the last few drafts and could use some input. I'm somewhat satisfied with the draft but wonder if I'm undervaluing tap lands or should have committed to two colours more. I'm struggling with brewing the deck, leaning towards GUb but I think a case can be made for UWb or 4c... edit: Lands aren't right in screenshot, Imgur is being difficult so can't correct Levin fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Sep 16, 2022 |
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Levin posted:
p1p7: this would have been a good spot to take a land. bite down is good but not great, it's awkward in u/g because you don't have many cheap high power creatures, and you want be able to cast a 5 drop and bite down in the same turn based on what we're seeing late in pack 1 it's pretty clear we need to abandon u/g. we're not seeing lands at all late, and a domain deck needs lands to function. p2p4: we're seeing white signals and we're seeing blue signals, perfect time to change lanes and go with destroy evil. feels awful passing tatyova but if we make room for her our deck will either be too inconsistent or two weak when we don't draw her p2p5: could have been take up the shield instead of a land p3p6: could have been drake i would have ended up in a streamlined u/w deck (which you still might be able to pull off). If you go with your domain build you're going to have high highs but also lots of draws where you don't do anything. you really should be playing clockwork librarian in that deck. when you have bad mana a colorless card that scries will do a lot of work keeping you alive and helping you hit your colors
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Anyone have a good list for the sleeper agent event? some of the stained glass arts are real good
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flatluigi posted:Anyone have a good list for the sleeper agent event? some of the stained glass arts are real good Which stained glass are they anyway? It's incredible you still can't see what cards you're getting in-client.
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Hauki posted:Which stained glass are they anyway? It's incredible you still can't see what cards you're getting in-client. the thing in game opens up the browser that goes to the relevant article iirc https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/earn-stained-glass-card-styles-sleeper-agents-event quote:The following showcase card styles can be earned in this event. Each is equally likely, and you will always receive styles you don't own yet until you collect them all: i really want squee at least
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little munchkin posted:p1p7: this would have been a good spot to take a land. bite down is good but not great, it's awkward in u/g because you don't have many cheap high power creatures, and you want be able to cast a 5 drop and bite down in the same turn Thanks so much Little Munchkin, very helpful suggestions! What do you think of this build: https://sealeddeck.tech/2yGp7FTMnB?
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Levin posted:Thanks so much Little Munchkin, very helpful suggestions! What do you think of this build: https://sealeddeck.tech/2yGp7FTMnB? I'd cut green entirely, you don't have any green lands and they let you cut pixies as well which are just so useless on their own. stall and figment are the easy adds and the other two slots can be scavenger, impede, or one of your two walls
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Event #22 Tolarian geyser is like the best common in the best colour in the set, I'd be snapping them up regardless of what my p1p1 was. I think I'd even pick it over cruelty of gix as well p1p1
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flatluigi posted:Anyone have a good list for the sleeper agent event? some of the stained glass arts are real good I don't have a good list, but your best bet is to build around green trample or blue unblockables for getting easy combat damage, or black Phyrexians to take advantage of "all Phyrexians" without having to hope your best creatures will get randomly picked. Alternately just use a good singleton deck and try to win without worrying about the gimmick. Edit: My first deck I used a bunch of red "deal damage to target opponent" creatures. Turns out that doesn't work because the poison counters are only for combat damage. Learn from my mistake. Edit 2: Decided to keep trying till I got Squee and Sheoldred, got them as my last 2 which took ages, but now I have a full set of styles I'll probably never use. Double Strike is powerful - doing combat damage twice adds poison counters twice. I didn't realise until it got used against me. Lizard Blades did a lot of heavy lifting in my last few wins. Urcher fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Sep 16, 2022 |
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I thought going up to 4 Elspeths may have been too much...
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Welp, definitely done on draft now, went 1//3 with the last one. Possibly could have salvaged tyhe last with more patience but the other two just didn't really manage to go anywhere despite a deck that looked very similar to the one I trophied with early on. Disappointing, gonna be another 10 days or so before I get another run. Ah well.
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Urcher posted:Edit 2: Decided to keep trying till I got Squee and Sheoldred, got them as my last 2 which took ages, but now I have a full set of styles I'll probably never use. Double Strike is powerful - doing combat damage twice adds poison counters twice. I didn't realise until it got used against me. Lizard Blades did a lot of heavy lifting in my last few wins. Playing mono R or what? I'm a sucker for stained glass cosmetics but also don't want to spend 10,000 gold getting them all
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Judgy Fucker posted:Playing mono R or what? I'm a sucker for stained glass cosmetics but also don't want to spend 10,000 gold getting them all correction: spend at least 10k gold. you could spend up to 30k if you can't win 30 games in a row
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Rogue AI Goddess posted:That's a very delightful deck indeed! Any reason why you're not running any Inspiring Overseers in it, though? Given how well they work with Elspeth, Paragon and Giada, I thought they'd be a shoo-in. Inspiring Overseer was indeed in the original version, but I ended up cutting it and giving card slots to Paragon and Elspeth (which was previously a 2-of). It felt like there was too much overlap with Spirited Companion (cantrip body that blocks and absorbs edicts, plus Companion can be brought back by Restoration as well), and when I got to turn 4 or 5 I always wanted to play something a bit more impactful. I could see it in a more flier-heavy meta, I think
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Hooplah posted:correction: spend at least 10k gold. you could spend up to 30k if you can't win 30 games in a row The payouts include gold, right? Win enough and you recoup some of the cost, yeah?
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yeah I scrubbed out of a few runs but I still got the full set with under 5k net loss (including getting my quests done) would've gone better if I hadn't grabbed a deck off of arena zone without vetting it again. still don't know who the gently caress builds decks over there because they're always worse than what I can brew myself my suggestion for the event is a lot of red haste 1 drops and cheap burn
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Judgy Fucker posted:The payouts include gold, right? Win enough and you recoup some of the cost, yeah? oh, duh. if you're keeping up a better than ~55% wr, you'll make all your gold back
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