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Vermain posted:i honestly wonder if a big part of it might just be that whatever inhouse engine tri-ace is using isn't up to the task Oooh yeah, that eyebrow ain't doing too good. The flickering shadow on the girl in the yellow top's just the shadow of the bangs of her hair moving across it. I think it's just a really basic hard shadow so it does... not look good compared to most lighting nowadays.
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ImpAtom posted:Man i really wish they'd pick a side of the anime spectrum and stick with it instead of ending up with weird mostly-realistic faces except for some of the women who are apparently just made of playdoh. Tri-Face
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Finished the Valkyrie Elysium demo and yeah, there was pretty much absolutely no story to speak of for real in the Chapter. Gameplay was fun for 2/3rds of it but uh, I can foresee this getting old really quickly unless the Einherjar/additional skills really switch things up. Like, having a boss that has a weak point you can only hit in midair but not actually give you any way to dodge in midair is... definitely a choice. It also seems like it pulls a Dragon Age 2 where the side quests just boots you back to the Chapter area you already did except many pathways are mysteriously walled/boarded off.
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OneDeadman posted:My only like real complaint about Valkyrie Elysium is that it's combat is sorta stiff. Like you can grapple hook and jump cancel out of the recovery of moves but you can't dodge or block cancel out of them. Which I guess defensively is kinda annoying but at the very least Divine Arts all seem to have ludicrious amounts of invincibility frames to them. I'm pretty confident you unlock stuff like this in the skill tree because literally everyhing is locked behind it.
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To be fair Star Ocean 4 did that too.
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kirbysuperstar posted:To be fair Star Ocean 4 did that too. Yeah, and it sucked! My understanding is that Tri-Ace is terrified of losing sales for being "too anime" except that they are also 100% anime firing on all cylinders at all times in every other way, so you end up with this ugly compromise.
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Suikoden (Edit: I & II) HD remaster announced on Konami's TGS stream. https://twitter.com/denfaminicogame/status/1570661973326712834 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAzjwEjnFDs Kanfy fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Sep 16, 2022 |
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Clarste posted:Yeah, and it sucked! They've been trying to capture the "realistic" anime look ever since VP2 on PS2 it feels like and I think they got the closest with Resonance of Fate but have backslid from there. The cartoony look of SO3 and Radiata Stories were good but I guess they don't want to do that anymore. SO4 has the infamous realistic portraits only on the 360 release too.
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Kanfy posted:Suikoden HD remaster announced on Konami's TGS stream.
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Kanfy posted:Suikoden HD remaster announced on Konami's TGS stream. surprised its just suikoden 1 and not suikoden 1 + 2, the original suikoden is pretty short.
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1932640/Suikoden_III_HD_Remaster_Gate_Rune_and_Dunan_Unification_Wars/ oh wait it is suikoden 1 + 2 lol
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Endorph posted:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1932640/Suikoden_III_HD_Remaster_Gate_Rune_and_Dunan_Unification_Wars/ Guess someone jumped the gun a bit with that page. Also that link makes it sound like it's a Suikoden III remaster!
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It looks closer to Pier Solar than 2DHD danger!
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https://twitter.com/Hansuke21/status/1570669252650340352/photo/1 notably they arent adding voice acting or anything, unlike, say, live a live
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I am a bit surprised they didn't do anything to the sprites, with everything else slicked up they now kinda stand out.  I wonder if the English versions are going to get retranslated, I remember II's at least being pretty sketchy.
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1 and 2 had some TL issues, 2 especially had bits where it just outright descended into nonsense. considering konami though, i wouldnt be surprised if it was just a quick runthrough to fix the most obvious grammar/spelling errors and call it a day.
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Has Konami even released anything recent to compare?
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I can't imagine they have the translation spreadsheets for the original Suikoden games anymore. It'd be cheaper to just hire someone to retranslate the game fresh than hunt down old files or transcribe from the old games
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Tired Moritz posted:Has Konami even released anything recent to compare? Not really, all the recent collections they've done were ported as is
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Never really had a chance to play Suikoden 3-5 even though I have Suikoden 3 for PS2 layin around.
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Kanfy posted:I am a bit surprised they didn't do anything to the sprites, with everything else slicked up they now kinda stand out.
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Also adding a map screen and dialogue log, a speed up mode + toggleable auto-battle for combat, out next year for all major platforms.  
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Tired Moritz posted:Has Konami even released anything recent to compare? Yugioh Master Duel and Cross Duel, as well as the Switch Rush Duel game
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    So yeah retranslation/rewrite Terper fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Sep 16, 2022 |
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Terper posted:
Wow, that's a much scarier 'You're getting robbed' line.
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 Not really giving us major lines to compare but yeah, they've at least gone over the whole script again.
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2 in particular has a rough translation at points and quite a few bugs so them going over the script is great. The areas in the trailer look great but the sprites do clash a bit, hopefully it won't be as noticeable once you're sitting down playing. Honestly as long as Konami sticks the landing it should be good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyyjeaDBgl4 Will say that the new UI isn't great, reminds me of the lovely Final Fantasy android UIs.
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They should leave in the entire town where nobody is translated and also the completely silent singing section
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 i dunno where this screencaps from (probably a recent trailer or a magazine), but the new art seems p cool too even though i got zero knowledge about suikoden 
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I'm glad they're finally doing something with Suikoden, but man I hate the new graphics. It doesn't match the sprites at all and just looks like cheap CGI for the most part. I was initially ambivalent about the widescreen, but if you look at some of the screenshots it completely ruins the composition of a given scene. Like when you're visiting the emperor and you're able to see into a room across the hallway instead of just having it be focused on what's happening. I don't like the portraits either, they just made them look like modern anime which isn't what I want. Ugh, the whole thing stinks, to me. None of this would be an issue if you could just pick the original graphics, but it doesn't seem like you can. At least we're getting a new script and presumably bugfixes, I guess.
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Kanfy posted:I am a bit surprised they didn't do anything to the sprites, with everything else slicked up they now kinda stand out. Mr. Trampoline posted:I can't imagine they have the translation spreadsheets for the original Suikoden games anymore. It'd be cheaper to just hire someone to retranslate the game fresh than hunt down old files or transcribe from the old games kirbysuperstar posted:They should leave in the entire town where nobody is translated and also the completely silent singing section
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iirc its a glitch in suikoden 2 where if you go to a late game town as soon as possible in the english version, everyone is glitched out and spits out garbled japanese
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My two big requests for Suikoden 1 is them updating the inventory and adding a convoy so story sections don't have four slots taken up by forced characters. It probably won't happen but I can dream, they're the two worst things about going back to play it.Runa posted:They probably fixed the matilda gate glitch didn't they That was fixed in the PSP double pack so yeah probably. Testekill fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Sep 16, 2022 |
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Terper posted:So yeah retranslation/rewrite RIP Sonya Cat 1999 - 2022 Delsaber fucked around with this message at 09:45 on Sep 16, 2022 |
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I literally played Suikoden 2 so much as a kid I wore groves into the disk so it looking just slightly better but with an improved translation and a few modern features like turbo is more then enough to sell me on it already. Honestly though, any one of those things by themselves would have sold me on it. It was legitimately my favorite game as a child so I am super easy to please in this one case.
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Hey speaking of Suikoden, Eiyuden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW-vRt9iWnA
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