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android auto voice has always worked pretty well for me for navigation, but pretty much every other application of voice controls has been awful
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phosdex posted:I never talk to my car, and I disabled the bmw gesture control stuff. Come to think of it, I have seen BMW drivers use gestures more often than other drivers.
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Sep 16, 2022 14:46
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The mic in my Fiesta is so close to me (like everything else) that voice stuff on Car Play works pretty flawlessly. You can’t talk to the car though, there’s no options for it to control. I like just tapping a steering wheel button and telling it to map a route to someone’s house or find a place. It’s kinda neat.
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Sep 16, 2022 15:14
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setting a timer via voice while cooking is pretty dope tbh
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Sep 16, 2022 15:35
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 Dealer demo with 230 miles!
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Sep 16, 2022 16:07
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Twerk from Home posted:Come to think of it, I have seen BMW drivers use gestures more often than other drivers. My partner forced me to turn it off on my profile because she's constantly talking with her hands and accidentally changing or pausing the music.
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Sep 16, 2022 16:17
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The controls in my '14 Focus are so bad for infotainment stuff that I will use the voice controls for some operations instead of using the jank touchscreen while driving or trying to figure out how fast I can push the "change input" button before the system lags out and dumps me into the satellite radio I'm not paying for and splashes a pop-up on the screen telling me to pay for it It works pretty well in this limited capacity even if it makes me feel like a stupid rear end in a top hat every time I do it I can't imagine controlling everything by voice though
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Sep 16, 2022 16:41
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Dr. Lunchables posted:The mic in my Fiesta is so close to me (like everything else) that voice stuff on Car Play works pretty flawlessly. You can’t talk to the car though, there’s no options for it to control. Huh. My example was from a 2012 Fiesta, which had voice control. But then again, I'm not surprised they took it out with how bad it was.
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Sep 16, 2022 16:51
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They redid the entire infotainment setup in 2016 and made it in line with Sync 3, so I’m sure you’re correct.
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Sep 16, 2022 16:53
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Yea Sync 2 sucked rear end but 3 was much better. I still had some annoyances with it, but it was nowhere near in the FoRS than the FiST
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Sep 16, 2022 18:29
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I wish I could remember all the details about just how and why MyFord Touch was such a horrendous system. I think it was outsourced to Blackberry/QNX that had a history of making embedded software, but not on such a large scale in the automotive sector. And I think the whole thing ran on top of some ancient embedded windows ce as I remember seeing 1995-looking windows error popups on the Focus forums when the thing would crash sometimes. Just horrible in every way. Feel especially bad for people that got cars with the Powershift. Just endless suffering. Sad thing is, if you got a Fiesta or Focus with a stick shift and the base radio, you got a truly great world car for its day. Edit: Don't like the look of the new Mustang interior with it's big displays? Well, if you get a base model Mustang you....still get two big screens! That somehow looks even worse!  https://www.thedrive.com/news/the-base-2024-ford-mustangs-interior-is-the-ipads Mental Hospitality fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Sep 16, 2022 |
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Sep 16, 2022 18:41
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Mental Hospitality posted:I wish I could remember all the details about just how and why MyFord Touch was such a horrendous system. I think it was outsourced to Blackberry/QNX that had a history of making embedded software, but not on such a large scale in the automotive sector. And I think the whole thing ran on top of some ancient embedded windows ce as I remember seeing 1995-looking windows error popups on the Focus forums when the thing would crash sometimes. Is this a promotional render or a screenshot from a mobile game? C'mon Ford.
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Sep 16, 2022 19:06
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Mental Hospitality posted:I wish I could remember all the details about just how and why MyFord Touch was such a horrendous system. I think it was outsourced to Blackberry/QNX that had a history of making embedded software, but not on such a large scale in the automotive sector. And I think the whole thing ran on top of some ancient embedded windows ce as I remember seeing 1995-looking windows error popups on the Focus forums when the thing would crash sometimes. The fixed sync afterwards was qnx, touch was still microsoft. https://youtu.be/FrvmzxIJOXw
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Sep 16, 2022 19:11
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If I have to choose between two screens and one extra wide one, I kinda like the two separate screens. Seems like having more physical borders as a reference point should be a vaguely better "user experience" while blindly fumbling for the right buttons  Like there's so much inaccessible space / blind spots due to having a steering wheel in the way lol. And I imagine 1 huge screen only makes it harder to clean the dashboard. Sab669 fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Sep 16, 2022 |
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Sep 16, 2022 19:11
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Mental Hospitality posted:Just horrible in every way. Feel especially bad for people that got cars with the Powershift. Just endless suffering. Sad thing is, if you got a Fiesta or Focus with a stick shift and the base radio, you got a truly great world car for its day. It's esp sorry since that was the last gen in the US- and like nobody takes manuals here so everyone got the lovely auto and bad infotainment on what was otherwise a great car and then it was dead. Not sure how much that had to do with them actually ending the Focus/Fiesta in the NA region (also it had the updated infotainment for a few years before being disco'd here) but an ignominious death nonetheless.
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Sep 16, 2022 20:53
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SlowBloke posted:The fixed sync afterwards was qnx, touch was still microsoft. Ah, thanks for the clarification. Maybe I was thinking of this BSquare company mentioned in the video and mistakenly attributed QNX to them. Great video.
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Sep 16, 2022 21:09
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revving up the voltage meter
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Sep 16, 2022 21:14
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Mental Hospitality posted:I wish I could remember all the details about just how and why MyFord Touch was such a horrendous system. I think it was outsourced to Blackberry/QNX that had a history of making embedded software, but not on such a large scale in the automotive sector. And I think the whole thing ran on top of some ancient embedded windows ce as I remember seeing 1995-looking windows error popups on the Focus forums when the thing would crash sometimes. barf
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Sep 16, 2022 21:49
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farting around the automall waiting for service. LOL'd that the Acura Integra has more headroom than the TLX.
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Sep 16, 2022 22:55
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Mental Hospitality posted:
Personally I think it looks better. But this is like asking if an pus ravaged rear end in a top hat looks worse than a multilated dick, they both are godawful and why the hell did I use this as an analogy?
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Sep 16, 2022 23:21
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Nice humble brag about your non mutilated dick
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Sep 16, 2022 23:45
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Personally I think it looks better. The "widescreen" option appears to be just these 2 screens behind a single plastic bezel but what the hell do I know.
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Sep 17, 2022 00:50
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How much of the cluster can you see though the wheel anyway?
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Sep 17, 2022 00:58
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Are you saying it should have a yoke?
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Sep 17, 2022 01:40
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I like the new interior quite a bit, it's better with the mega screen and the new ventilated recaros also look really nice. The physical buttons that are left below the screen looked pretty chintzy when Alex on Autos was messing with them. I'm a bit more mixed about the exterior, the current model looks more coordinated, maybe they'll fix it with a facelift. Not a bad car for what is probably the end of the road for stick shift v8's though, it's now or never.
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Sep 17, 2022 01:50
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iPads for gauge clusters suck.
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Koirhor posted:
Isn’t this one of the games dealers play to avoid manufacturer restrictions? Like once it’s declared a demo, they’re no longer under any agreement with Ford about pricing, etc.
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Sep 17, 2022 03:21
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davecrazy posted:iPads for gauge clusters suck.
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Sep 17, 2022 05:06
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I want 30 mechanical gauges and 60 switches with a solid mechanical clunk, at least 3 of which have switch guards. My keyboard switches shouldn't cost more than my car's.
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Sep 17, 2022 05:20
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Powershift posted:I want 30 mechanical gauges and 60 switches with a solid mechanical clunk, at least 3 of which have switch guards. vectorW8.jpg Phone posting otherwise I’d dig up a pic for you. Someone do the needful.
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Sep 17, 2022 05:28
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slothrop posted:vectorW8.jpg  https://i.imgur.com/PNslnDl.mp4 While we're on the subject. Fewer jelly beans, more boxy wedges. If i have to live in a dystopian hellscape, it might as well be one of the good ones.
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Sep 17, 2022 05:32
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Needs toggle switches ala a 2005 Ford GT.
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Sep 17, 2022 06:52
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Powershift posted:I want 30 mechanical gauges and 60 switches with a solid mechanical clunk, at least 3 of which have switch guards. this but unironically Interestingly that Integra I sat in today had the nicest steering wheel buttons and scroll wheel I've ever felt.
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Sep 17, 2022 07:25
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If guage clusters are going digital why not have fun with it? I want a guage cluster that’s sonic the hedgehog running faster and faster and once you hit 100 kph he turns into super sonic and ‘sonic boom’ starts playing on the stereo.
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Sep 17, 2022 13:25
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Al-Saqr posted:If guage clusters are going digital why not have fun with it? So long as if you have a crash it shows him lose all his rings. Jean-Paul Shartre fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Sep 17, 2022 |
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Sep 17, 2022 14:09
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JohnCompany posted:So long as if you have a crash it shows him loose all his rings. Yeah also when it crashes the battery should use whatever battery it has left before it dies or explodes to play the drowning music lol
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Sep 17, 2022 14:11
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TheMadMilkman posted:Isn’t this one of the games dealers play to avoid manufacturer restrictions? Like once it’s declared a demo, they’re no longer under any agreement with Ford about pricing, etc.
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Sep 17, 2022 14:29
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I like gauge clusters that are both analog and digital. Give me real needles and then whatever digital poo poo around them.
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Sep 17, 2022 14:39
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fknlo posted:I like gauge clusters that are both analog and digital. Give me real needles and then whatever digital poo poo around them.  this is the way. Unfortunately I feel this setup will be relegated to the luxury segments as it would cost an extra twenty dollars per unit.
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Our '22 Grand Cherokee has a 100% digital gauge cluster, but it looks like a natural part of the dashboard. The new base model Mustang looks like they just wedged an iPad in there and called it a day.
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