So, we have the 14th Saeima elections in Latvia on the 1st of October, where we choose our parliament. This is the most important election of Latvian political cycle, since the parliament elects our president. Brief summary of our electoral system: http://archive.ipu.org/parline-e/reports/2177_B.htm I'll go through all 19 party lists, summarizing their demographics, party program overall – condensed where possible, and focusing on policies, rather than demagoguery, but otherwise as neutrally as I can manage. In addition to that, I'll also try to throw in something about noteworthy recent scandals for the parties. Parties are ordered as on the actual ballot stack (ballot rank of 1 means that this is the first list a voter sees when they open their voting envelope in the booth), and political orientation labels I've made up on my own. For the summaries of political programmes, things useful to know:
Links to individual parties (meaningful 2018 election results in brackets):
P.S. Current parliament numbers may not be accurate. In part because our Saeima's website is not great, in part because our parliamentary factions don't quite work like that, and in part since it's 3am and I simply cannot be arsed to cross-reference that much. It's not too relevant in any case, these numbers I'm copy-pasting will be maybe 1 MP off for a few parties where I know they're not exactly right. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Sep 18, 2022 |
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Jaunā VIENOTĪBA (New Unity, ticker: JV) Ballot rank: 1 Year founded: 2018 (2010) Political position: Centre-right Ideology: Liberal conservativism, pro-Europeanism Current MPs: 11/100 In government: Yes – Prime Minister's office, and ministries for finance, foreign affairs European party: European People's Party Current MEPs: 3/8 Website: https://jaunavienotiba.lv/ CVK page: https://sv2022.cvk.lv/pub/kandidatu-saraksti/jauna-vienotiba Demographics: A reboot of a 12-year-old party called Unity (surprising, I know), has been in every government since 2010. No recent major scandals, PM just gets to be the punching bag for being the top government official. I guess the local journalists did roast the minister for finance on being looser with facts than his peers. Their programme summary:
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# ? Sep 18, 2022 02:37 |
"Latvijas Krievu savienība" (Latvian Russian Union, ticker: LKS) Ballot rank: 2 Year founded: 2014 (1998) Political position: Radical centre Ideology: Social conservativism, minority politics Current MPs: 0/100 In government: No European party: European Free Alliance Current MEPs: 1/8 Website: https://rusojuz.lv/ CVK page: https://sv2022.cvk.lv/pub/kandidatu-saraksti/latvijas-krievu-savieniba Demographics: One of the older parties around, has been in opposition since 2010. They're increasingly leaning into populism, so there are plenty of controversies to pick from. The big one for this year would be organizing a May 10 event at the Victory Monument, in response to it being closed off for May 9, the Soviet Victory Day. It ended up being a pro-Russian Federation and pro-USSR gathering, featuring war songs and a few Latvians getting beaten up. As they've found out, now there's popular mandate to demolish basically every Soviet army monument in the nation, and I wouldn't call the party quite safe from being banned altogether. They also managed to embarrass the police on the day, which led to weeks of the national police boss being dragged to TV shows as the fall guy. Consequently, the police has remarkably stepped up enforcement of regulations on displays of affection for the Soviet Union, and the Russian Federation, since earlier this year. Their programme summary (no clear section headings):
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Zaļo un Zemnieku savienība (Union of Greens and Farmers, ticker: ZZS) Ballot rank: 3 Year founded: 2002 Political position: Centre-right Ideology: Agrarianism, Regionalism Current MPs: 7/100 In government: No European party: European People's Party Current MEPs: 0/8 Website: https://zzs.lv/ CVK page: https://sv2022.cvk.lv/pub/kandidatu-saraksti/zalo-un-zemnieku-savieniba Demographics: An older party led by a US-sanctioned oligarch, that has typically been in the government, but is currently in opposition. Their recent controversy, and perhaps the controversy of the year in Latvian electoral politics in general, is the brazen return of the oligarch Aivars Lembergs into politics – I guess tied-ish with the return of Ainārs Šlesers. That alone caused ZZS to fracture earlier this year and lose 2 constituent parties. One of the departing parties was Latvian Green Party, meaning that we no longer have a party that pursued Green and Agrarian policies simultaneously (aka, property values). Moreover, ZZS may now need to give their name a do-over. Their programme summary:
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TAUTAS KALPI LATVIJAI (Servants of the People for Latvia, ticker: TKL) Ballot rank: 4 Year founded: 2022 (2003) Political position: Left-wing Ideology: Populism, Syndicalism Current MPs: 0/100 In government: No European party: N/A Current MEPs: 0/8 Website: https://www.tautaskalpi.lv/ CVK page: https://sv2022.cvk.lv/pub/kandidatu-saraksti/tautas-kalpi-latvijai Demographics: They're new, but seem to under an umbrella of a "serial politician" (in an analogy to a serial entrepreneur) Juris Žuravļovs, and using a shell company. Therefore, no controversies of note – the best I could find is the nominal leader has run a seemingly failing diamond trading business in Ukraine. And a host of other companies involved with construction or diamonds in other EE countries, and also has previously been convicted for forging passports. Their programme summary (it's an unstructured list):
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"SUVERĒNĀ VARA" (Sovereign Power, ticker: SV) Ballot rank: 5 Year founded: 2022 (2005) Political position: Right-wing Ideology: Christian conservativism, populism Current MPs: 2/100 In government: No European party: N/A Current MEPs: 0/8 Website: https://suverenavara.lv/ CVK page: https://sv2022.cvk.lv/pub/kandidatu-saraksti/suverena-vara Demographics: They're nominally old, but that's a shell company, and de facto the party was founded by Jūlija Stepaņeko after she was made one of the two scapegoats kicked from LPV, potentially in a play where Šlesers thought to publicly kill two of the more outspoken Russophiles to divert regulatory attention from his business dealings with a Russian oligarch. Besides this, her other scandal of the year was her not doing her job for 4 months, since she refused to provide the parliament with a valid COVID-19 certificate, and was thus not let into the building. In general, however, her scandals-per-year dynamics are close to someone like Marjorie Taylor Greene. Their programme summary (it's an unstructured list):
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"Kristīgi Progresīvā Partija" (Christian Progressive Party, ticker: KPP) Ballot rank: 6 Year founded: 2021 (2009) Political position: Centre-right Ideology: Scientocracy, nationalism Current MPs: 0/100 In government: No European party: N/A Current MEPs: 0/8 Website: N/A CVK page: https://sv2022.cvk.lv/pub/kandidatu-saraksti/kristigi-progresiva-partija Demographics: They're a nominally old company, but that's just a shell company. A relatively short members list, surprisingly devoid of scientists. No one I recognize, so the best I can tell is that they have some sort of indirect association with Ainārs Šlesers. Their programme is relatively short, so I'll translate the policy section of it in its entirety, word by word: Our goals – to guide processes in the Latvian nation and society with methods which are rooted in the achievements of modern science. The economy cannot be guided by people lacking knowledge. GOALS
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"Saskaņa" (Harmony, ticker: S) Ballot rank: 7 Year founded: 2010 Political position: Centre-left Ideology: Social democracy, minority politics Current MPs: 18/100 In government: No European party: Party of European Socialists Current MEPs: 1/8 Website: https://saskana.eu/ CVK page: https://sv2022.cvk.lv/pub/kandidatu-saraksti/saskana-socialdemokratiska-partija Demographics: Can be arguably considered as the single most popular party in the history of 2nd independent Latvia. The party has a long list of scandals, but for this year I'll mention that, after supporting gay marriage previously, they allied with NA this year to disrupt the quorum for the 3rd reading vote on the civil union law. They also prominently joined LKS for the May 10 events. Their programme summary:
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"Stabilitātei!" (For Stability!, ticker: S!) Ballot rank: 8 Year founded: 2021 Political position: Radical centre Ideology: Populism, Euroscepticism Current MPs: 0/100 In government: No European party: N/A Current MEPs: 0/8 Website: https://www.partijastabilitatei.lv/ CVK page: https://sv2022.cvk.lv/pub/kandidatu-saraksti/politiska-partija-stabilitatei Demographics: They're a new party, founded by two politicians formerly representing S in the Riga municipal parliament. Nothing too remarkable, albeit one of the founders is the vice president of the national cop union, and has threatened to "find" laws to go after the current government for the demolition of the Victory Monument [if elected]. Their programme summary:
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"Tautas varas spēks" (The Power of People's Power, ticker: TVS) Ballot rank: 9 Year founded: 2022 (2007) Political position: Right-wing Ideology: Populism, conspiracism Current MPs: 0/100 In government: No European party: N/A Current MEPs: 0/8 Website: N/A CVK page: https://sv2022.cvk.lv/pub/kandidatu-saraksti/politiska-partija-tautas-varas-speks Demographics: They seem to be an older party, rather than just a shell party, but a fringe one that has never made it anywhere. Close to 0 hits for them on search as well. The only thing I can come up with is that their Riga list headliner is Valentīns Jeremejevs, who has spent the entire pandemic running around and calling the government a bunch of "covidfascists". Their programme cannot be summarized, as there are no policy proposals in it. There's just a short list of complaints ranging from "food prices have drastically gone up" to "the word mother has been replaced with Parent No.1". cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Sep 18, 2022 |
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"Vienoti Latvijai" (United for Latvia, ticker: VL) Ballot rank: 10 Year founded: 2012 Political position: N/A Ideology: N/A Current MPs: 0/100 In government: No European party: N/A Current MEPs: 0/8 Website: N/A CVK page: https://sv2022.cvk.lv/pub/kandidatu-saraksti/partija-vienoti-latvijai Demographics: It's a shell party formerly used by Ainārs Šlesers. The list of members is very short, and there's no one prominent there. I'm struggling to find literally anything meaningful about them. The party programme is one word, "nation's government".
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Nacionālā apvienība "Visu Latvijai!"-"Tēvzemei un Brīvībai/LNNK" (National Alliance "All For Latvia!" – "For Fatherland and Freedom/LNNK", ticker: NA) Ballot rank: 11 Year founded: 2014 (2010) Political position: Far-right Ideology: Conservativism, ethnonationalism Current MPs: 13/100 In government: Yes, ministries of economics, culture, and agriculture European party: European Conservatives and Reformists Party Current MEPs: 1/8 Website: https://nacionalaapvieniba.lv/ CVK page: https://sv2022.cvk.lv/pub/kandidatu-saraksti/nacionala-apvieniba-visu-latvijai-tevzemei-un-brivibai-lnnk Demographics: A merger of older conservative parties, has been in the governing coalitions sice 2011. Their most recent scandals were boycotting the civil union law to disrupt the quorum, and their first economics minister being so bad that he got sacked earlier this year despite the PM opposing that move. Their programme summary:
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LATVIJA PIRMAJĀ VIETĀ (Latvia First, ticker: LPV) Ballot rank: 12 Year founded: 2021 Political position: Right-wing Ideology: Populism Current MPs: 2/100 In government: No European party: N/A Current MEPs: 0/8 Website: https://latvijapirmajavieta.lv/ CVK page: https://sv2022.cvk.lv/pub/kandidatu-saraksti/latvija-pirmaja-vieta Demographics: A young party, but has quite some political luggage already, being founded by Ainārs Šlesers. Going over stuff like Jūrmalgeita bribery case wouldn't be too relevant here, so I'll just loop back to the SV origin story, Stepaņenko and Švecova being kicked out of LPV for being too pro-Russian or just convenient to sacrifice. Going to be amusing if this ends up being the dominos meme, with LPV failing the 5% threshold due to the SV splinter draining votes. Their programme summary (it's an unstructured list):
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Konservatīvie (the Conservatives; ticker: K) Ballot rank: 13 Year founded: 2022 (2014) Political position: Centre-right Ideology: Liberal conservativism Current MPs: 15/100 In government: Yes, ministries of justice (vice PM), education and science, welfare, transport European party: European People’s Party Current MEPs: 0/8 Website: https://latvijapirmajavieta.lv/ CVK page: https://sv2022.cvk.lv/pub/kandidatu-saraksti/konservativie Demographics: They're a splinter of NA, formerly known as Jaunā konservatīvā partija (the New Conservative Party, ticker: JKP). Their big, if indirect, scandal was the constitutional court ruling that gay couples having worse labour rights than hetero couples is unconstitutional, in response to which K, the would-be "law-and-order" flavour of conservatives, said "well then" …and made a fully functional gay marriage law with not much fuss or flair, called the civil union law here. This did immensely piss off so much of the political spectrum that a certain horse-related theory springs to mind. Their programme summary:
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"KATRAM UN KATRAI" (For Each and Every One, ticker: KuK (pronounced almost like you suspect)) Ballot rank: 14 Year founded: 2022 (2021) Political position: Centre-right Ideology: Liberal conservativism Current MPs: 2/100 In government: No European party: N/A Current MEPs: 0/8 Website: https://www.katraiunkatram.lv/ CVK page: https://sv2022.cvk.lv/pub/kandidatu-saraksti/politiska-partija-katram-un-katrai Demographics: A splinter of S and PCL (formerly KPV), founded by, arguably, the 4 most scandalous MPs of the 13th Saeima election. They had big drama virtually immediately after founding, with half of the founders quitting. To pick a more pastoral scandal, Aldis Gobzems, a former PCL MP and the principal founder of KuK, at one point was asking people not vaccinated against COVID-19 to wear a yellow star in public, to share his plight. To be clear, this isn't the first or the last scandal of him – the personality there is aptly described by "what if Latvian Matt Gaetz and Latvian Michael Avenatti were the same person". Their programme summary:
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"PROGRESĪVIE" (the Progressives, ticker: PRO) Ballot rank: 15 Year founded: 2017 Political position: Centre-left Ideology: Progressivism, Green politics Current MPs: 0/100 In government: No European party: European Green Party Current MEPs: 0/8 Website: https://www.progresivie.lv/ CVK page: https://sv2022.cvk.lv/pub/kandidatu-saraksti/progresivie Demographics: It is a successor to an NGO named the same, and, in away, a splinter faction of the Latvian Social Democratic Workers' party. Nothing recent in terms of scandals they've caused, but they're a frequent target of culture wars about cycling lanes, gay marriage, abortion rights, etcetera. Their programme summary:
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Attīstībai/Par! (Development/For!, ticker: A/P) Ballot rank: 16 Year founded: 2018 Political position: Radical centre Ideology: Classical liberalism, pro-Europeanism Current MPs: 14/100 In government: Yes, ministries of defence (vice PM), health, the interior, and environmental protection and regional development European party: Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe Party Current MEPs: 1/8 Website: https://attistibaipar.lv/ CVK page: https://sv2022.cvk.lv/pub/kandidatu-saraksti/attistibai-par Demographics: It's a somewhat recent party, formed as a result of 3 smaller liberal parties merging. They're in the ruling coalition, holding ministries for defence, the interior, environmental protection and regional development, and health. Their ministers are, generally speaking, incompetent, and have each been subject of months-long shitstorms, except for maybe the defence minister, who is too incompetent to get himself into a big scandal. The most recent scandal would be with failing to prevent the May 10 protest mentioned earlier, the largest – initial response to COVID-19, on many fronts. To name a specific example, our vaccine procurement strategy got pulled out of some rear end, and for the initial purchase we were one of a few European countries deviating from EC/EMA-recommended split between manufacturers. We focused on AstraZeneca, and exercised only ~10% of the volume of mRNA vaccines we were entitled to, which set our national vaccination campaign behind by at least 3-4 months. Their programme summary (another list):
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"Apvienība Latvijai" (Union for Latvia, ticker: AL) Ballot rank: 17 Year founded: 2022 (2016) Political position: Right-wing Ideology: Populism, Euroscepticism Current MPs: 1/100 In government: No European party: European People's Party Current MEPs: 0/8 Website: https://cilvecigi.lv/ CVK page: https://sv2022.cvk.lv/pub/kandidatu-saraksti/apvieniba-latvijai Demographics: Formerly known (kind of, it's a whole new legal entity) as PCL and KPV LV, this party represents the main manifestation of Trumpist politics in Latvia. A lot of the other populist parties running this year trace their roots to this. AV has lost 15 MPs and were kicked out of the ruling coalition, down from being tied for the second place with K for the number of MPs. Of the recent scandals, this party, elected on an anti-corruption platform, was indicted this year by KNAB for illegal use of state funding to political parties, losing access to it for a year. Fun fact: they're registered as a party union for the election, while being the sole party in their union, if I understand it correctly – since their April 27 alliance with LSDSP did fall apart by June 1. Their party programme:
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"APVIENOTAIS SARAKSTS – Latvijas Zaļā partija, Latvijas Reģionu Apvienība, Liepājas partija" (United List, ticker: AS) Ballot rank: 18 Year founded: 2022 (2014) Political position: Centre-right Ideology: Regionalism, Green conservativism Current MPs: 4/100 In government: No European party: N/A Current MEPs: 0/8 Website: https://www.apvienotaissaraksts.lv/ CVK page: https://sv2022.cvk.lv/pub/kandidatu-saraksti/apvienotais-saraksts-latvijas-zala-partija-latvijas-regionu-apvieniba-liepajas-partija Demographics: This is the ZZS splinter mentioned earlier, using a shell company. The "boring, stable adult" part of it, so there's nothing to go on regarding any recent scandals. Programme summary (it's a brain dump about how the country should work, rather than what they are going to do to get there, in most cases):
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"Republika" (Republic, ticker: R) Ballot rank: 19 Year founded: 2021 Political position: Radical centre Ideology: Populism European party: Current MPs: 2/100 In government: No European party: N/A Current MEPs: 0/8 Website: https://republika2030.lv/ CVK page: https://sv2022.cvk.lv/pub/kandidatu-saraksti/politiska-partija-republika Demographics: This party is a combined PCL and S splinter, founded after PCL's collapse out of the ruling coalition by Sandis Ģirģens, ex-minister of the Interior for PCL, and Vjačeslavs Dombrovskis, a prominent politician. The recent scandals was the S half bailing out of the party not even half a year after their founding, with Ģirģens accusing Dombrovskis of stealing over 300 party membership applications on his way out. Programme summary:
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Right, so this was an rear end load to type, so apologies if I've slipped up on details, grammar somewhere, or something looks stupid – just let me know. Anyway, my quick takes, I guess, since I need at least a slight break away from typing this week: JV – Very generic mainstream centrism for Latvia, with a competently written programme. The ratings reflect that quite astutely. Not super happy to see the political nation part leaning into Latvian language, but at this point there's only Russia to thank for our Overton window swerving hard towards nationalism. Everyone who has ever wanted to vote for clowns like NA has already done that. LKS – In addition to transition to populism, they're also increasingly dropping the pretence of being the human rights or the minority rights party, and are just focusing on being Russophile. Furthermore, while hardly the worst example of it this election, the programme has a whole load of de facto impossible stuff. Like, even if they win the absolute majority in parliament-impossible. ZZS – The programme is fairly modest, a bit uncharacteristically so, and I'm thus not sure what's the play here. I guess Lembergs is doing damage control to save the train wreck of the party now, at least in some way, since they're losing the ratings battle against their splinter. Bet that as it may, friends don't let friends to vote for Lembergs, so I don't think there's anything worth analysis here. TKL – SV – This is obvious idiot bait, obvious enough even for the target demographic. Wouldn't be surprised to learn later that this was very specifically Stepaņenko trying to torpedo LPV's chances for making it over the parliamentary threshold, out of spite. KPP – I was honestly so loving lost reading this. I'm not sure if this is some boomer doing a bit, 375 IQ tax dodge, or something else going on here. Would love some robots, though. S – Surprisingly weak programme, I'm genuinely puzzled about it. They seem to be well on their way to swerving from being the main champion of social democracy politics in the country to an angry populist party number #5. What I think happened is that they were a bit too meek, for their base, on pushing against COVID-19 policies, and then Russia decided to go crazy, and instead of just full sending it like LKS, S tried to sit on all chairs at once, tearing their rear end in the progress. S! — Very unfortunate name-ticker combo for this post. In any case, I think this is the kind of populism that's going to stick around. I'm somewhat surprised they didn't lean into oiling up pensioners, like a few others did, but this is hitting the lean government notes, railing against VID and the government acting as "punishers" (basically the whole thing about government helping, consulting, assisting, not punish, etcetera is concern trolling from lolbertarians loving around and finding out, especially during COVID-19 lockdown). Would've expected something more about taxes, but, I guess, that would be a bit too on the nose wrt our budget deficit and such. Kind of surprised, both here and elsewhere, seeing parties push for a smaller parliament, but I'm uncertain if there's more to it than attempts to consolidate power by the leaders of all those splinter parties. Virtually all of them exist because KPV LV was run idiotically by complete morons, and did very well in parliamentary election, so like half of the current populism wave is just a big Dunning-Kruger FYGM slap fight essentially. TVS – The actual idiot party, and the rating accurately reflects that. VL – NA – Same old usual poo poo. Actually surprised to see them trying to mention Latgale favourably, when they're openly about making ethnic percentages go up. Going to refrain about speculation how the cinema subsidy line came in, would be rude to speak like that of Christians. LPV – this is very much Šlesers doing his gently fondles ball sack of business thing, using COVID-19 anger as a springboard to gather some votes, if I had to guess. Some of those financial promises are pretty lol, though. K – The mortgage part feels like trying to pay people off for popular anger with the ministers for justice and for education and science, but otherwise these feels like the expected "slightly more technocratic and slightly more to the right than JV". Surprisingly quiet/weak on healthcare. KuK – Another obvious idiot bait, but Gobzems is much better at social media game than SV. PRO – Nothing pragmatic about economy, leaning into nationalism like the rest of body politics, though out of necessity, some literal "the thing but better" stuff. Overall, disappointingly vague, I can only say. I'm at a genuine loss at how they decided that this a solid political message to put into writing, since the other possibility is considerably more terrifying to consider. A/P – Did they let Pabriks write this alone as a compensation for his biggest fuckup so far being merely goofy on Twitter (since manifesto happened before he just decided to be straight up sexist on the main stage TV) when he stands on the shoulders of giants of public failure like loving V*ņķele? AL – ah yes, the "everyone gets one house for free" manifesto. AS – the liberal boomer vote goes here. R – honestly can't tell what's the programme's message, and to whom. Especially the GTO part In general, I'm mildly amused to see how much electoral model change talking is going on, and how much are populists crying about "state must teach us instead of punish us ". Our dipshits are really inspired by Gobzems and Americans, yet afraid to follow, huh. P.S. For my election predictions, I'm going to wait for other takes (and the ratings for the 37th week). P.P.S. Random trivia I learned when writing this: Janīna Kursīte and Janīna Kursīte-Pakule are different MPs in very different parties. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Sep 18, 2022 |
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Hell yes thank you for your service I am going to read the hell out of this.
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S breaking off to form S! is pretty great
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Thanks for all your effort! I have a few questions/suggestions: 1. Consider making the OP a link index going to the individual parties, that will make it easier to parse. That chart's just really handy. 2. Internal references to other parties being links to their respective posts (e.g. around the LPV fracture) would also help. The same is true for your opinion post at the end. 3. What specifically do you mean by "accountable promise"? 4. Under SV, could you clarify what "doubled tax returns for single-child families" means? 5. Should I understand KPP as being similar to the old technocratic movement in the US? 6. What is Saskaņa's deal- are they basically just trying to disrupt the current government at any cost? Is there some sort of interplay happening between them and NA? 7. Under S!, what is "the school reform" they are nominally opposing? 8. Under LPV, what the gently caress does "making Latvia the Dubai of the North" mean? Oil extraction? 9. PRO seems good (which would explain why they're doing better than previously, and why they're a frequent target). What's their position on nuclear energy and grid integration? 10. Slight typo, "brining" under the AL entry. 11. Regarding AS, should we understand the splintering as being done to preserve its power relative to ZZS? 12. In your reaction/summary post, "AV" should be "AL". 13: Regarding your opinion post for R, idk what you mean by "GTO". Generally, this layout of policy programmes and party splits is less depressing than I'd feared. It's very interesting to see how a tendency toward fracturing affecting the right rather than the left has the effect of leaving the major conservative/central party far saner than the US Republicans. Maybe I'm misattributing the causation though. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Sep 18, 2022 |
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Disappointing that KuK isn't some sort of "Make Latvia a part of resurgent Austro-Hungarian Empire" party with that name. Sounds like it would be an improvement, too. (... not sure how I would deal with those choices if I were Latvian...)
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Discendo Vox posted:Thanks for all your effort! I have a few questions/suggestions: I like your suggestions, and cheers for the typos hints. On your questioons: 3. My intuition on how plausible it would be for a party to do something apart from what an ordinary adult would understand with a specific promise, and subsequently misrepresent their actions as a fulfilment of an electoral promise. In other words, whether if I consider the promise falsifiable, with the additional adjustment of practicality. For instance, raising a teacher's salary from 6000 to 6600 EUR brutto is a 10% raise, so, quite competitive within nominal dynamics oh Latvian labour economy at a calm time. However, expressed as the average wage in Riga, the change is impractically small – from 39.15% to 43.07%. In other words, all binary outcomes were included, but for gradual outcomes I've designated as vague those where I don't consider effectively meaningless, our outright misleading, compliance as particularly difficult to achieve. 4. On this note, I'm glad to expand on all vague things – I literally just wanted to avoid doing full translation of all programmes from the outset, since this approach already took more time than I initially estimated. Also, I did a brain fart there. The specific policy proposal is “To double the easements for dependents in single-parent families”, rather than single-child families. The easement here specifically is 250/month for each dependent until the age of 24 with some finer modalities that are not essential to know right away. This easement does increase your non-taxable income in the annual tax filing. The proposal would make this easement 500/month/dependent for a single parent. 5. I would suggest somewhere closer to people with cardboard signs, but on the policy level that page looks kind-of there, at least based on a brief scan of the page you linked. 6. They got de fact exiled out of ever being in a government some 10-15 years ago. Not explicitly, of course, as that would be highly illegal, but through this implicit friction with nationalists, the extent of Russophobia that the generalised electorate is content with being a passive bystander of, and failing, if at least somewhat lopsided, repeat purity tests on not being affiliated or otherwise interested in maintaining a relationship with the political establishment of Russian Federation. Since then, the party has kind-of thrashed around, struggling to find its indetity, or a way forward, while its de facto leader, Ušakovs, essentially fled Latvian police, pursuing him on corruption charges, by becoming a MEP. This has left them in at best an awkward spot in our political system. That said, in this specific case, this isn't really a party line that's enforced hard. Latvian parliament doesn't operate through political parties, and it's impossible to have a party whip or some such. Once an MP is elected, they can flip everyone they want off and do their thing. And on the specific vote I'm referencing, while majority of Harmony's faction abstained from voting, blowing up the quorum in alliance with NA, ZZS, and the "idependent" faction of AL (KPV) failsons, there were Harmony MPs enabling the vote as well. The party's preference was explicitly in favour of abstaining from vote, however, with the stated reason being suspected corruption (KNAB investigated it and found no wrongdoing) in the legislative development process for the law. The more likely reason is that after COVID-19 and Ukraine (as we're currently talking about June 2022 events) Harmony has bled all the young people, and have a decidedly socially conservative electorate left to court. 7. It's a good question, I don't know as well. The full language use is “We will cancel the poorly thought out school reform”, and there are quite a few things described by that, possibly. If I had to guess, this refers to the most recent one, which was not really an education reform (i.e., what you'd think there), but as a financing reform, under which the government has stopped paying teachers “directly”, and just transfers are lump sum to a municipality, telling it to use the funds for payroll expenses in local schools. I don't have kids and live in a city, so I'm not well familiar with the effects of it, but it may have caused longer commutes in the countryside, indirectly shuttering the less sustainable schools. While we have schools where staff headcount basically exceeds student headcount, this seems to be a somewhat mainstream complaint (though it then leaves other problems unsolved). 8. Rich and cool city. No, not taking a piss. 9. Yeah, they're cool people, despite me having some personal history with an individual party member, being at odds with their historical immigration policy (a few years back, they cited Denmark as an example to look up to). I just wish there would be a bit more pragmatic, or communicate their pragmatism better, since otherwise they sometimes feel like “I'll fix her” category of dating mistakes, but policymaking approach. Their programme doesn't mention nuclear at all, and I'm not sure what their historical stances on that have been. Based on the way things are here in general, I would say that it's less than 50% likely that they view it non-negatively. What you meant with grid integration? 11. I'm not going to prescribe anything here, but my subjective interpretation is that this is our Green party making a defensive move against placing herself into a position where they must fight an oligarch's personality cult for political influence, while being explicitly vulnerable to the said oligarch's cash. 13. GTO here means Gotov k Trudu i Oborone, a very specific and very famous public health policy of the Soviet Union. I cannot understate how odd it is to, khem, carbon copy this, including the name of it, and in 2022 of all times. Also, I would caution against viewing our populism as being motivated by adherence to right-wing ideals. Their activities are driven by profiteering, whereas NA or K will be the actual right-wing ideologues of different kinds. I would say that overall the strength of political convictions (polarization, kind-of, but maybe not quite that mechanistically) here is lower than in the US, meaning that populism can have a solid sway in the centre, regardless of what the ideological pairings actually look like, whereas, going outwards, all the populist splinter drama is akin to sea foam to the proverbial ideological glaciers of LKS and NA. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Sep 18, 2022 |
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Discendo Vox posted:
Yes, mostly. Bias disclosure is that I am an early (albeit very passive) member and voted for them already in mail in voting. They've underdelivered in the Riga city council, a bit, their economical policies are a bit too vague and fluffy for my liking, but it has the makings of a genuinely good organization. I have very little access to the rumour mill, but my understanding is that there are very few hints of shadiness. To quote my only source with insider access, "There are couple of people at the top who should be kept away from money and power if possible, but I'm happy with literally everyone else." PRO joined the European Greens this year, after an internal vote on the decision. I voted against, largely due to EG stance on nuclear energy. Their position is to favour renewables over LPG and nuclear while pursuing independence from Russian energy. The projected idea is that nuclear could be a long term solution, but not practical in short to medium term. In all honesty, I'm not perfectly comfortable with this. OddObserver posted:Disappointing that KuK isn't some sort of "Make Latvia a part of resurgent Austro-Hungarian Empire" party with that name. Sounds like it would be an improvement, too. Now that you mention it, KuK is exactly the sort of party Josef Švejk would be telling anecdotes about.
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GTO sounds similar to, in certain respects, the very good and Trump-discontinued US President's Fitness Challenge prorgam.cinci zoo sniper posted:9. Yeah, they're cool people, despite me having some personal history with an individual party member, being at odds with their historical immigration policy (a few years back, they cited Denmark as an example to look up to). I just wish there would be a bit more pragmatic, or communicate their pragmatism better, since otherwise they sometimes feel like “I'll fix her” category of dating mistakes, but policymaking approach. I noted another party (blanking on which) was advocating linking the power grid to neighboring EU states. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Sep 18, 2022 |
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Discendo Vox posted:I noted another party (blanking on which) was advocating linking the power grid to neighboring EU states. Oh, EU electrical grid is interconnected already – we need to do some clean-up there, due to Soviet legacy infrastructure, but that’s not something noteworthy. The plan you’re referencing is by K, and my read on it is that they want a direct connection to the closest friendly producer of nuclear energy, as a precaution. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Sep 18, 2022 |
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https://twitter.com/davekeating/status/1571423790373937153
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You should probably add some kind of explanation of the whole non-citizen thing to the first post. It pops up in some programmes, but if you're not familiar with the term, it may look like it's about immigrants.
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Thanks for the heroic effort cinci! Way more than I can digest at once but will definitely read through it. EU really needs to crank up the PR in Serbia
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Paladinus posted:You should probably add some kind of explanation of the whole non-citizen thing to the first post. It pops up in some programmes, but if you're not familiar with the term, it may look like it's about immigrants. Good point, added that.
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mobby_6kl posted:
This raises a question about what kind of PR does China have there. I think there was a Serbian billboard with 'Thank you brother Xi' or something like that.
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Paldies, cinci, but also that’s a lot of work for a dead gay comedy forum
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Mokotow posted:Paldies, cinci, but also I can’t believe that you’re taking issue with bringing back the glorious local governments of late 30s Mussolini-style fascist dictatorship of Ulmanis
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Paladinus posted:This raises a question about what kind of PR does China have there. I think there was a Serbian billboard with 'Thank you brother Xi' or something like that. China kindly moved their embassy to a new location and then built a cultural center to the site of the old embassy though the initiative and some of the money came from USA
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I just reread my last long post and, loving hell, I definitely require another night of sleep before I write a more grounded take on the election that we face.
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Paladinus posted:This raises a question about what kind of PR does China have there. I think there was a Serbian billboard with 'Thank you brother Xi' or something like that. Vučić relatively frequently meets in person with Xi Jingping or talks with him. Same with Putin, at least before the war. And of course EU people. Pro-Vučić media (that's 90% of all Serbian media) milk every such occasion. No need for China to purchase ads or whatever when there's a million news items about unending friendship between two friendly nations etc.
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