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Man, now they're going to have to update the autopsy report again, and boy is it going to be embarrassing for the coroner.
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Ah, this game was never grounded to begin with, but NOW is where the real pants-on-head logic starts up. Also, it is 'by whom' Edgeworth, you analphabetic clown.
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Part 36: Episode 2, Day 3, Trial: Medium Level Up Phoenix seems to be hearing and seeing Mia in Maya's seat...  ...!!!!  There's a crash as we fade to black again...   We just gave up on defending ourselves, so looks like we've been dragged out to the lobby to await our ride back to the detention center.  The text even pops in slowly, reflecting Phoenix's continued wooziness.  What happened? ... Oh, right... This game continues to surprise me. Will future episodes feature Phoenix Wright, jailhouse lawyer? Music: Courtroom Lobby ~ Beginning Overture  ... Even better! We passed out from excitement at our victory at the end of the first episode, and this entire second episode has just been a bad dream! Music: Silence   Phoenix can't handle the shock and blacks out again.   ... "Gak"? That's no way to greet an old friend!   ...   Music: Courtroom Lobby ~ Beginning Overture  Mia that outfit is even more ridiculous on you than your lawyer garb. Are you competing with Miss May for most gratuitious cleavage? M-Maya...? When Mia died and Maya came along, I actually trashed the icon files I had for Mia, figuring I'd never need them again (and I use initials for the file names, and both characters have the same initials). Not only did I have to go re-grab them from the Episode 1 updates for flashbacks, but now I have to go make more for this Mia-as-Maya bit? (Or is it Maya-as-Mia? Never mind, I don't want to think about it anymore.) My zip file of sprites didn't even have these in there!  When you accepted your defeat in court... So... Maya is channeling you, Mia? That's right. I am Maya, but I'm also Mia.I guess I missed my point to object to this spirit medium business many updates ago. Oh well, let's roll with it!   Maya never gave up. You can't either! That's what I came here to tell you. ...! B-but! You've already won. Huh...? You have that Receipt in the court record, right? Phoenix! White wrote that, not me! So... so what do I do with it? Look at the front of the receipt! The... front? (Looks like it's from a famous department store.) ("$1,000.00"... Wow, big spender!) ("Item"... "Glass light stand"...!) Music: Silence ...! September 4!Music: Investigation - Core  I bought that stand the day before I was killed!Now there's a sentence I never thought I'd type. Whoa!   There you go! I think the court is about to reconvene! I'm so weirded out by this, but on reflection it's not much weirder than a lot of other comic-like storylines for bringing a character back to life? And this game is just silly enough to pull it off. Right!  Music: Silence   We're back! And it looks like Mia-Maya is still with us?  Music: Trial   Is the defendant... rather, are you alright, Mr. Wright?  I'm fine now. Then, let's start where we left off.  Your Honor.  The cross-examination of Mr. White is finished!  Hmm...Music: Silence   Your Honor! I promise you, this is the last time I'll ask you! Hmm...  Mr. Edgeworth, do you have an opinion on this matter?  My, how magnanimous of you. Your arrogance will be your undoing! Very well!  Everything is basically the same here, including what we get for pressing. Music: Questioning - Allegro  So let's jump right to the good stuff. quote:Pressing gets most of the same dialogue, with the end replaced with a reminder to present our evidence. The first time: Music: Silence    See the word "Maya" written in blood...? Bwah hah! You're grasping!And you're starting to cackle like a cartoon villain, settle down. Music: Pressing Pursuit - Cornered   Th-the other side? Your Honor. Hmm... Well! And the date of purchase... Why, that's the day before the murder! Double reaction shot, we're back in the game! You see! Mr. White.  Music: Silence   I had to shrink it to get the file size down with all that screen shaking, but there's a nice double-meltdown for you! Well, Mr. White?  Music: Pressing Pursuit - Cornered (Uh oh... he's losing it.) ... Well, Your Honor.  ! ......Music: Silence    Come on, this is getting ridiculous now. Not so fast, Phoenix Wright!Music: Pressing Pursuit - Cornered - Variation  Eh? (Oh wait... I forgot. It's Edgeworth.)   However! There's also zero proof that we're guilty! This trial is just dragging on now. (...!) Ergo! Oh hell no. That'll just give you time to fabricate some evidence.  I need time to make one more inquiry into this matter. Hmm...! (Another inquiry...!?) Yes it is, fight! (This guy just makes up evidence as he pleases!) Of course we're objecting, it's what we do!  There is no need to prolong this trial any further! Hmm. Well, Mr. Edgeworth?  Hmm. I see. Dammit the corrupt system has screwed us. Whaaaat!quote:If we wait to see what happens... Music: Silence   Music: Suspense  (And after Mia showed up to help me and all...)  Mr. Your Honor! Forget Edgeworth, if this guy gets away he'll just have us killed overnight!  (Gah!)Music: Silence  (M-Mia...!) Phoenix! Mia? What's this...?  Ghost evidence, nice. Music: Suspense   (You bet I am! My life is riding on this one!)  No point fooling around here, let's see what Mia has for us.  quote:Choosing the wrong evidence here gets us another loop: Music: Silence   Many of them sounded strangely familiar. People in finance, famous celebrities... That's when it happened. Huh?  P-please, stop! Make him stop! How... how did you get that list!? Mr. White. Or else this list will be released to the press!  The crowd is dead silent here.    Music: Trial  What the hell was that? What was that all about? Why would that list of names bother White enough to confess to murder? In a judicial system that happily executes murderers, no less? Bait for future episodes? Mr. Wright? Yes, Your Honor. Yes, Your Honor. Hmm. Well! This court finds the defense... Music: Silence  We did it! For real this time!   And the crowd goes wild!   I find this ending oddly dissatisfying for some reason. Oh well, we'll wrap up Episode 2 next time!
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(Gah! I have to show him the evidence Mia gave me!)
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I think they were trying to create an ironic ending by having the blackmailer get defeated by blackmail, but as you said, when the penalty for murder goes up to the death penalty, I'd just as soon take my chances. Maybe if he takes a plea bargain, he'll be able to get time in jail instead.
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It's wacky because they already had Mia step in with a Deus Ex Machina style piece of evidence, only to have her save the day with yet another. For what possible purpose?
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Also, blackmailing someone in open court? And Edgeworth doesn't say a word?
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Staltran posted:Also, blackmailing someone in open court? And Edgeworth doesn't say a word? How could he? Even the judge has to know he's just making poo poo up.
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He killed Mia for that list, I guess. And now it's gotten out anyway. Also, Edgey and the Judge are on that list. I imagine they won't want to explain the particulars.
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I agree, this ending is a bit convoluted. But hey, at least it fits in universe. Hopefully future villains won’t need a deus ex machina to defeat. Or if they do, Phoenix will be able to handle producing one on his own.
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Yeah the second bit of ghost evidence falls a bit flat. Someone mentioned that this was originally the first case written for the game, and I guess they couldn't have the big bad crumble in the face of one piece of evidence presented by a rookie attorney? Also you mentioned the newspaper clip disappearing way back at the start of the trial day. I thought it'd come up, but the implication is clearly that White just stole it off you when he was calling the pigs, or had someone take it while you were in custody.
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Staltran posted:Also, blackmailing someone in open court? And Edgeworth doesn't say a word? Eh, while the beat doesn't really hold up, Mia is not blackmailing someone. She's blackmailing everyone. It's simpler for the system to just pretend this whole trial didn't happen. I doubt White is getting the death penalty, I think he'll manage some backroom deal for 20/30 to life in a minimum security prison. He knows he'll get  in a back alley somewhere if that list of names comes out.
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Screw that, let’s call in our favor with the most vicious prison gang in the Ace Attorney universe. They can make White’s stay in prison a living hell even if they don’t kill him! Is what I have happening in my head canon anyway. 
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Sep 18, 2022 13:30
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White is a great start to the game.
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Sep 18, 2022 15:23
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I can't believe I've played these games near half a dozen times and I never noticed the Judge's grin before now.
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Sep 18, 2022 22:42
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The Judge is happy to tie off that particularly annoying loose end in his life.
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Quackles posted:I can't believe I've played these games near half a dozen times and I never noticed the Judge's grin before now. Haha I may have inadvertently caught that talking animation in a good spot. That sprite is usually more of a blank wide-eyed stare. I like the idea of a hidden smile breaking through though.
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DKII posted:That sprite is usually more of a blank wide-eyed stare. The way this legal system works, you know that judge has seen and done some poo poo that haunts him.
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Part 37: Episode 2, Epilogue: Wright & Co. Time for our victory lap in the lobby! Music: Victory! The First Victory  Mia-Maya is still hanging out with us. Is she going to pop in on the regular whenever we need help now?  Which one of you? You know what, never mind. I'm lucky I had both you and Maya on my side. I'm glad you made it. ... Thank you, Phoenix. You risked a lot to help me... and Maya.  (As long as you "live"...?) ... My time here's running out. Huh? Maya's powers are still weak. W-what!? No! There's still so much to say! Don't worry. I'm sure we'll meet again. Ch-Chief!I like how Phoenix has just gone all-in on this spirit medium business, never really questioning it.  Phoenix? Can you come to the office tonight... say, 9:00? The office...?  And Mia ghosts out. Do you think Maya remembers everything that just happened, or does she just wake up in the lobby all  Music: Silence  Phoenix seems to be habitually a couple minutes late to the office. It's still the same day, and it's been just four days since Mia's murder.  Ah, we're here at the same time of night so we can re-use the same backdrop, clever.  You came! Mia... Huh? Of course I came... Well then! M-Mia...? ... Mia!Music: Maya Fey ~ Turnabout Sisters Theme  Hey, we get our first new music track in forever as Maya makes her re-appearance. M-Maya...? ...She has no idea what happened, does she? Or she does and she's pranking us! (Look like... You WERE her!)  "Oh, Phoenix! Go to the store and buy me lunch, would you?" Uhm, Maya... Why are you here?  See? Mia wrote me a letter. "Take care of Phoenix for me."Well that's thoughtfully convenient. Get possessed by a ghost, but they write you a letter to explain what happened while you were out of it.  She means the office! This office! So we just...take over?    You know what, this is going to be great. I'm already looking forward to Episode 3 now. You... don't mind me calling you "Nick," do you? ("Nick"...?) You know what this means? We're partners! It is Maya's fault I'm here now. But... If it wasn't for her I'd probably be in jail! Yeah! Thanks, Maya! Well, that was adorable.  (I'll always be here... watching.) Huh? Do... what? Burgers, dummy! Burgers! C'mon! Time's a wasting! O-okay! Wait up! Holy hell, episode 2 is finally over! It took 27 updates and around 1800 images! I really had no idea what I was in for, that first episode made it seem so easy! Overall I thought the episode was incredibly well done, I loved the new characters, the investigation sequences, and even that the trial was broken up into multiple days, with more investigation in between. The story is over-the-top but somehow works within the setting and the framework that's been set up, even with Mia saving us at the end again (this time as a ghost!). My only complaint is that the last sequence of the trial seemed unnecessarily drawn out. It really could have ended with Mia showing up, pointing out the receipt in the courtroom, and White confessing from there. Mr. White himself was also kind of disappointing in the trial - after a whole episode of setup and his flamboyant arrogance in his office, his pathetic performance at the trial was a bit of a letdown. The actual ending was somewhat anti-climactic, but I'm hoping that pays off in a future episode. It would have been nice to rub our victory in Edgeworth's face a bit, too, but he kind of disappeared at the end there. I guess in the end it was more Mia's victory than ours, anyway. Also just to hit on what is now a repeating pattern - the very first contradiction we spotted for both Miss May and Mr. White were once again both lines where they were actually telling the truth (and unintentionally revealing more than they wanted). For Miss May it was pointing out the murder weapon was a clock (which she heard about on the wiretap), and for Mr. White it was seeing Mia dodge to the left (from his perspective as the killer). I was able to tweak my workflow to keep an update coming out every other day throughout that episode; the main difficulty was in managing different save files for keeping track of branching paths during the investigations! I'm not sure I'll be able to keep up at that pace for the entire game, and I may take a short break before starting the next episode, but I'll do my best to keep this running at a quick pace! Music: Jingle - It Can't End Here  Are those fighting samurai robots!? Never mind about the break, I'm jumping straight in!
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I mean, the tutorial episode is a burglary gone wrong and the first real episode is busting a high level blackmail ring that has at least one and a half branches of government completely under its thumb, so defending a goddamn gundam or w/e seems like a reasonable next step at the current rate of escalation.
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This is a great LP and the amount of work you've put into it is amazing! Take all the time you need to not burn out.
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Episode 3 in each game has the reputation of being the weakest in their respective game. I don't agree with this, I love Turnabout Samurai.
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I'd argue that Turnabout Samurai is one of the best cases Ace Attorney 1 has to offer. Also, fun fact: Maya's favorite food in the Japanese version is ramen.
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I really hope this LP doesn't suffer from the PW curse because it being a blind SSLP is a really fun new perspective on the games. I agree with basically your entire assessment of the episodes, mostly good except for the extended ending sequence and White folding like a bad poker hand under the slightest pressure.
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Leraika posted:This is a great LP and the amount of work you've put into it is amazing! Take all the time you need to not burn out. Seconded. Turnabout Samurai is my second favorite Phoenix case of all time, after the fanfic Turnabout Storm. The climactic case of this game is great too.
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SirSamVimes posted:I really hope this LP doesn't suffer from the PW curse because it being a blind SSLP is a really fun new perspective on the games. Indeed, take care to pace yourself, and remember - this is supposed to be fun for you as well as us. If it stops being that way, don't try to force yourself to keep going. That being said, looking forward to the next case!
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Quackles posted:Also, fun fact: Maya's favorite food in the Japanese version is ramen.
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None of the first game cases are really my personal favorites, but I think they're all really objectively good. Turnabout Samurai might not be as flashy as some others but I think it's one of the most Ace Attorney cases there is. If that makes any sense.
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The worst part about Turnabout Samurai is that you, the player, will likely figure out what happened long before Phoenix does, and it makes the case drag on. The second-worst part is one of the characters, whose "humor" has aged terribly.
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Might be a good idea not to comment on future cases when this is a blind lp?
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Samurai is my favorite case of the first game. It might be my favorite case of the first 2 games, since I never finished the trilogy.
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I’ll save my full thoughts for the case is finished, but Samurai captures the essence of the series’ themes
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Part 38: Interlude: Sound Effect Round-Up I was digging through for different assets I could post, and came across a treasure trove on a lovely website that I was already using for grabbing talking head icons - Court Records (beware: spoilers in the linked site!). I haven't explored it much since I'm trying to avoid spoilers myself, but I wanted to highlight what a great resource they are by posting some sound effects from the episodes we've just played. First off, we have the voiced lines that play for shouting out in court. From now on I'll be posting these as images that link to the soundbite, so you can hear them whenever you want: Phoenix Wright:  Miles Edgeworth: Winston Payne: I also got a series of WAV files for other minor sound effects. I'm not going to post every random beep and boop that comes across, but I'll experiment with highlighting the noteworthy ones as they come up in the future. Some examples that we've heard already:
There's no substitute for playing the game yourself, but with these links hopefully I can bring a little more of the experience to you. I'll also stick them into the second post of this thread, where I've been putting other useful links like the soundtrack and the character profiles.
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That's strange. Those voice clip sound effects play in my browser, except for Edgeworth's "Hold it" and "Take that" which ask me to download them to my computer. I also get a security warning but that's simply resolved by changing the [url]http://[/url] links into https://. It doesn't fix that download issue though.
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Looks like those two are wav files, which might be handled differently?
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Yeah, download/open is handled by filetype, and is a browser setting.
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Part 39: Episode 3, Prologue: Super Slayer Samurai Fighting robots! Who's the victim? Who's the killer? Who's the client? Let's find out! Music: Silence Video: Episode 3 Prologue  The pale moon in the sky cries for your blood!Music: The Steel Samurai   For it will be the last moon you ever see!We've completely switched genres and I am here for it.       Is this even a murder? Or did we just stumble into an anime fight scene?  One has fallen... but who? Only the moon knows!  I really should have seen that coming.Music: Silence  It's a month later, and we're the ones running the place now.  Was the intro just Maya and Phoenix watching an anime together? That's quite the switch from the last two episodes. Music: The Steel Samurai  Whoa! Stop waving that broom around! Sound: Light Bulb Ah, it was just Maya watching the show. Of course I'm here! What was that surreal show you were watching?  Young...? Like, how young? (Maya is 17.) Then what the heck are YOU doing getting all excited!? That's....a long way from 10.  Hey! Don't talk to me like I'm your grandpa or something. I'm only 24 myself.I think that's the first time I've seen his age confirmed. That's practically ancient in anime years.  Maya's changing expressions faster than Gumshoe here. I'm still trying to figure out how watching an anime robot fighting show is going to play into a murder case.  I really worry about kids these days. Gramps!Okay, Phoenix, now you really are sounding like an old grandpa.  I guess... Wish we had some clients!You'd think winning two high-profile murder cases - in a land with almost no "not guilty" verdicts - would raise Phoenix's profile a bit, but maybe that last trial has scared away potential clients. Music: Silence  Mia's murder was the talk of the town for some time... How am I going to pay the rent this month?  I'm sure some big client is just around the corner! Hmph.Grumpy grandpa Phoenix.  Two days later, if you weren't paying attention earlier.  There's the sound of a phone ringing three times here, but it seems to be a concatenation of random beep files put together rather than its own effect. You can probably imagine it.  *beep* H-hello? This is Phoenix. Maya's a trouble magnet, isn't she? Maya? What? It's still early... Finally, a lead on a case! Huh? You mean the guy on that show? Yes! ... Umm... Isn't that what he's supposed to do? Yeah, on TV! Yeah, on TV. He skewered a villain with his Samurai Spear! I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Just come to the office, quick! Please, Nick!  Music: Maya Fey ~ Turnabout Sisters Theme    The actor Will Powers was arrested yesterday. Powers plays the lead role in the popular kid's show "The Steel Samurai: Warrior of Neo Olde Tokyo." He was arrested on suspicion of murder. His body was found still inside the Evil Magistrate costume. The "Samurai Spear" was also found stuck through the body.After the last episode, I could use a case that is as silly as this one is shaping up to be.  The spear was found "stuck through the body", and police only "believe" it was the murder weapon?  ... This has to be a joke.  A phone rings somewhere... *beep* Is that Maya's phone? Or are all cell phones in this game going to have the same icon?  ...Music: Silence  Sound: Light Bulb  Nick! Sound: Realization W-what!? *beep* Go? Go where? They have the Steel Samurai down in detention! So what!? Sound: Objection Sounds like a real winner. At least it's not one we're personally involved in for once!
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