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I love seeing people get excited about the Constantine sequel as though the words "Akiva Goldman" weren't right alongside it
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:I love seeing people get excited about the Constantine sequel as though the words "Akiva Goldman" weren't right alongside it I noticed that but I also just watched the Sandman show which was way better than I expected and that was a David S Goyer joint so I guess anything goes.
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The Miller thing has somehow gotten worse. Apparently they have a bizarre altar in their home that people are expected to make offerings to, and one of the objects of worship on the altar are Flash figures.
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Sep 19, 2022 03:36
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Jared Leto's crying in a corner taking notes
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CapnAndy posted:The Miller thing has somehow gotten worse. Apparently they have a bizarre altar in their home that people are expected to make offerings to, and one of the objects of worship on the altar are Flash figures. Source? I mean, I believe it, but...
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CzarChasm posted:Source? I mean, I believe it, but... https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/09/inside-ezra-millers-dark-spiral-messiah-delusions
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The whole Vanity Fair article is bonkers and sad, but this part was kind of hilarious: Miller has a meeting with WB/D executives, finally admits they need mental health help, go to meet with the therapist, but brings a gun and ends up escorted out of the building. WB/D said they had no comment about that and when asked what steps were being taken to protect their staff and others, they said they directed Miller to a Crisis PR agency. Edit: Also, Miller apparently has ANOTHER restraining order against them for their contact with a different 12-year old. Miller's agent sounds like a dick when describing this: quote:The actor’s rep dismisses the allegation, saying, “Ezra’s lack of interest clearly upset a disappointed fan when they would not engage with the fan or her daughter.” The local police department confirmed it has an active case involving Miller and the 12-year-old based on three interactions the child had with the actor, in April, May, and June of this year. And that incident where Miller was arrested at their mom's house for burglary is actually weirder than initially thought. They were arrested at their mom's house, but the house they actually broke into was a "friend" that they "did not realize did not want to be friends anymore." quote:(Miller’s representative says the actor was cooking with their mother, needed rice wine, and grabbed that and another bottle of wine from the home of a close childhood friend. The rep says Miller did not realize that the friend didn’t want to be friends anymore.) Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Sep 19, 2022 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:Time to put The Flash in the WBD vault with Batgirl The article also says they specifically aren't going to do that and are still currently performing reshoots. Most of the details in the article happened before last month when Miller (or whoever wrote it for them) put out that statement and WBD thinks they are fine as long as Miller stays out of new trouble.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The article also says they specifically aren't going to do that and are still currently performing reshoots. Gotta hand it to them, I guess their altar works!
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There's no way a Flash movie is good enough to put up with all this
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Without wishing to give Miller a pass or the benefit of the doubt in any way, are all the allegations as bad as they sound on the surface? I don't follow celeb gossip so I just hear the latest on what they have done now through forums etc and then when I look past the headlines it's sometimes not as dramatic as it first sounded. Like, I hear they got arrested for felony burglary, and then it seems to have just been for breaking into a house to get a bottle of booze. Which is still weird AF on a bunch of levels but not exactly top ten FBI most wanted stuff. The worst headline was about a kid being held(?) in a house full of guns, but then a photo of the guns showed it mostly stuff like antique flintlocks or something, the kind of weapons we mock the cops for when they post one of their "look what we took off the streets" tweets. Judging by this thread alone they're clearly way over the line and need to go, but for someone not keeping up with it all (and I'm at least internet savvy and therefore gossip-adjacent at least) it's honestly really hard to get a clear picture of what is going on. Maybe that's what WB is banking on, because outside of the circle of people who are paying attention it's just a confusing thing happening as part of the background noise of life. Usually there's a clearer "X has done Y" story but Miller's built up a collection of mostly very loving weird behaviour that is hard to parse for anyone out of the loop. I feel like I need a non-clickbaity tl;dr of what the gently caress they've actually done with all the hyperbole stripped out. (I'm in the "they're bad" camp, I guess I just want to know how bad. Google isn't exactly helpful in this case because between the clickbait and the weird celeb stans it's so loving hard to get any kind of objective account of things.)
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Parkingtigers posted:Without wishing to give Miller a pass or the benefit of the doubt in any way, are all the allegations as bad as they sound on the surface? I mean, I don't think anyone here is personally involved so I don't know how we're supposed to know if they're as bad as they seem? If you want to judge for yourself I'd say just take a minute and read that VF article posted up thread. It's a bit of a read but it's got all the "worse" stuff and you can decide how bad that is for you on a personal level.
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It's worse. The Vanity Fair article didn't go into alot of the other first person testimonials of people hurt and abused by Ezra.
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Opopanax posted:There's no way a Flash movie is good enough to put up with all this Imagine if you were someone involved in the Batgirl movie and you see the constant drama with Miller and know that the movie still isn't getting pulled.
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Medullah posted:Imagine if you were someone involved in the Batgirl movie and you see the constant drama with Miller and know that the movie still isn't getting pulled. And to some degree your movie was pulled partially because it didn't fit with that one in continuity or tone or something.
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Parkingtigers posted:Without wishing to give Miller a pass or the benefit of the doubt in any way, are all the allegations as bad as they sound on the surface?
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I, too, have a donation altar that I expect people to put action figures in, so I'm not sure what's so bizarre about that.
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This is just a gen X/zoomer culture clash. Everybody born after 2002 has an altar, some elder millennials do too
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Yeah just read this article: . https://www.businessinsider.com/ezra-miller-flash-running-a-cult-grooming-minors-carrying-guns-2022-8. It soundly counters the point about "flintlocks" (there's a pic of a handgun that Ezra pulls out of nowwhere) to testimonials from women victims from Iceland to Germany, it def makes it apparent Ezra has hurt some ppl. Plz read that before posting about how this isn't so bad.
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Opopanax posted:There's no way a Flash movie is good enough to put up with all this Well judging from what other people have said it's supposed to be the glue holding the next phase(? iteration? idk) of whatever the hell the DCEU is together. So I see why it's important to them but man sometimes you just gotta cut your losses.
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Opopanax posted:There's no way a Flash movie is good enough to put up with all this A speedster is never going to work in a live action movie as anything other than a supporting character. I think it's impossible to do, the same way I don't think they ever could make a compelling Hulk solo movie. Some superheroes are good at rounding out a universe but are just uncompelling when pushed front and centre. Yeah, I know the counterpoint is decades of solo Flash/Hulk comic books, but I could never get into reading those either. Pushing all their chips in for a Batman or Superman who went rogue would at least make sense, but for The Flash?
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Medullah posted:Imagine if you were someone involved in the Batgirl movie and you see the constant drama with Miller and know that the movie still isn't getting pulled.
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Are you saying Batgirl would be outsider art or are you talking about that cool rear end Joker movie that was at TIFF?
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It's a movie about a bi Geo-Force and Metamorpho.
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MacheteZombie posted:Are you saying Batgirl would be outsider art or are you talking about that cool rear end Joker movie that was at TIFF?
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I would like to see The People's Joker and wonder if there will be a legal battle.
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Parkingtigers posted:A speedster is never going to work in a live action movie as anything other than a supporting character. I think it's impossible to do, the same way I don't think they ever could make a compelling Hulk solo movie. Some superheroes are good at rounding out a universe but are just uncompelling when pushed front and centre. Having watched a youtube on this a while back, I think the issue is with how the super-speed is depicted. Speedsters break movies when superspeed is shown as them essentially going to a parallel dimension where everyone else is frozen in time, which means that they can't meaningfully interact with the other characters or fight convincingly against enemies others fight. But they can work in stuff like The Incredibles where superspeed is just... they run really fast, but they have to consider reaction time, momentum, fatigue etc.
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Mr Hootington posted:I would like to see The People's Joker and wonder if there will be a legal battle. Yeah I think she' still looking for a distributor but there's plans to show it at other festivals so that's good news
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For all its flaws, Man of Steel had probably the best super speed fighting. The X-men movies also showed how they can be fun set pieces
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Lunatic Sledge posted:the scene where he does the arm thing is loving cool Save for the fact most of everyone WHISPERS in the movie making dialogue really hard to hear at times. It was also a really excellent demo disc when HD-DVD first came out.
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MacheteZombie posted:Yeah I think she' still looking for a distributor but there's plans to show it at other festivals so that's good news I wish her luck. I'm afraid a lot of that is flying too close to the sun, especially for the famously unkind WB entertainment lawyers.
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Dawgstar posted:I wish her luck. I'm afraid a lot of that is flying too close to the sun, especially for the famously unkind WB entertainment lawyers. I'm worried it will end up getting fair use laws gutted. I think they should still fight. That is the morally correct choice.
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Dawgstar posted:I wish her luck. I'm afraid a lot of that is flying too close to the sun, especially for the famously unkind WB entertainment lawyers. Her last update was about how she worked with a lawyer a ton to make sure it falls under parody fair use, but we all know which side courts tend to fall on.
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