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Lead out in cuffs posted:NK Jemisin and Nnedi Okorafor seem to handle Twitter pretty well, particularly given how much harassment they must get. I vaguely remember NK Jemisin having meltdowns over her support for Elizabeth Warren, claiming that criticising her for now being left-wing enough was misogynistic (and then Warren pretty much proving the criticism correct later).
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Jemisin is a terrible poster lol, she waded into the Isabel Fall stuff with a “I haven’t read it but,” JCO remains in the upper echelons of Poster just because of how deeply unhinged she is regularly.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Reading The Land that Time Forgot by edgar rice burroughs, I get that it came out in 1918 but " Their features were distinctly negroid, though their skins were white. A considerable portion of both torso and limbs were covered with short hair, and their physical proportions were in many aspects apelike, though not so much so as were Ahm's. They carried themselves in a more erect position, although their arms were considerably longer than those of the Neanderthal man. As I watched them, I saw that they possessed a language, that they had knowledge of fire and that they carried besides the wooden club of Ahm, a thing which resembled a crude stone hatchet. Evidently they were very low in the scale of humanity,"
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habeasdorkus posted:I remember the prequel book most vividly, the tripod trilogy starts after Earth was long conquered. I recall the prequel being quite good, but I read it when I was like 13. I re-read all of them as an adult and they really hold up. Like if John Wyndham wrote YA. I think they've been reissued, too.
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pradmer posted:The Blade Itself (First Law #1) by Joe Abercrombie - $2.99 Really good book
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Drakyn posted:Edgar Rice Burroughs created Tarzan so you're pretty much at ground zero of Writing That Is Very Like That. I've never read tarzan either, just watched the sanitized disney version
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FPyat posted:Whatever you do, do not look into Dan Simmons' online presence for the past 20 years, especially if you love his work. Dan Simmons seems to have taken his website down in the last couple years, which is kind of a shame. Maybe a time traveler from the future warned him about his posting legacy.
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Nomnom Cookie posted:Easier to make a list of authors who are good posters and ignore the rest. Here is the list: she seems like she likes to make a lot of "utopia....HAHA NOT" books pseudorandom name posted:- Neil Gaiman What the hell happened with that drama with his wife anyways
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verbal enema posted:Really good book What if Gandalf was a dick
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The new lord of the rings tv series had me revisiting that series. While i still don't enjoy it as much as more cynical fantasy like The First Law, I've noticed the main difference between it and the newest series influenced by Song of Ice and Fire are the latter has a lot of "twists", where things generally get worse for our characters. This makes it very easy to spoil. The former has a lot of "gently caress yeah, the people are coming together to fight for a common cause! (with a little bit of prodding from the supernatural)". And that's refreshing. Just the idea that humans can be noble is lost in a most modern fantasy.
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rollick posted:Dan Simmons seems to have taken his website down in the last couple years, which is kind of a shame. Maybe a time traveler from the future warned him about his posting legacy. I've only read the Hyperion Cantos by him. I seem to have made a good choice by stopping there.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:she seems like she likes to make a lot of "utopia....HAHA NOT" books they separated but have reconciled AFAIK. I'm not a fan of Amanda palmer as a musician or cultural figure.
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Ccs posted:The new lord of the rings tv series had me revisiting that series. While i still don't enjoy it as much as more cynical fantasy like The First Law, I've noticed the main difference between it and the newest series influenced by Song of Ice and Fire are the latter has a lot of "twists", where things generally get worse for our characters. This makes it very easy to spoil. The former has a lot of "gently caress yeah, the people are coming together to fight for a common cause! (with a little bit of prodding from the supernatural)". And that's refreshing. Just the idea that humans can be noble is lost in a most modern fantasy. The first law series was unpleasantly grim tbh, I thougt the heroes was a better balance.
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Ccs posted:The new lord of the rings tv series had me revisiting that series. While i still don't enjoy it as much as more cynical fantasy like The First Law, I've noticed the main difference between it and the newest series influenced by Song of Ice and Fire are the latter has a lot of "twists", where things generally get worse for our characters. This makes it very easy to spoil. The former has a lot of "gently caress yeah, the people are coming together to fight for a common cause! (with a little bit of prodding from the supernatural)". And that's refreshing. Just the idea that humans can be noble is lost in a most modern fantasy. It's really a larger problem with literature and all of media, the idea of the death of sincerity and the rise of irony. It's much harder to make something with purely noble intentions when the average viewer or reader is in the mindframe to mock anything that isn't at least somewhat tongue and cheek.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I've never read tarzan either, just watched the sanitized disney version Anyways after he meets Jane, goes to England to marry her, comes back to Africa with her, and has like twelve other novels happen he goes to the center of the earth and fights the only creatures described in more disparaging terms than the degenerate backwards ape-men from the lost city of Opar: degenerate backwards lizard-men riding dinosaurs. No. Really. 
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StrixNebulosa posted:Or CJ Cherryh? CJC signed up for Twitter back in 2009, then deleted her account after a bit. Her partner Jane S. Fancher still has a twitter account but hasn't posted in a decade. They have demonstrated true mastery of twitter: the only winning move is not to post.
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Drakyn posted:Shortest possible version:  welp good to know, sounds like a pass from me
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ToxicFrog posted:CJC signed up for Twitter back in 2009, then deleted her account after a bit. Her partner Jane S. Fancher still has a twitter account but hasn't posted in a decade. She posts adorably domestic updates on her blog about fish care and diets
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Can anybody recommend books in the vein of KSR's Aurora/2312 or Tchaikovsky's Children of Time? I dunno if those fall under the umbrella of "hard sci fi," but I'm really interested in stuff that takes place over a loooong timespan and is more focused on science and culture than action and war. Edit: VVV Oh yeah, I love those books. I think I've read all of KSR's SF stuff, except for Red Moon. Lester Shy fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Sep 19, 2022 |
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Sep 19, 2022 04:50
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Have you read KSR's Mars books?
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Lester Shy posted:Can anybody recommend books in the vein of KSR's Aurora/2312 or Tchaikovsky's Children of Time? I dunno if those fall under the umbrella of "hard sci fi," but I'm really interested in stuff that takes place over a loooong timespan and is more focused on science and culture than action and war. Stephen Baxter xeelee books and stories. Maybe not exactly what you’re looking for but it does have a shitload of timespan and science
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If you haven't read The Years of Rice and Salt, it's one of KSR's best. More alt-history than sci-fi, but all about [history of] science/culture vs action, covers six or seven centuries, hops all around the world, etc. Galileo's Dream is also about culture and science, and there's a far future (2900s CE iirc) timeline plot that intertwines with the historical Galileo stuff. Not an all-timer like Rice and Salt, but I'd put it on the list. Greg Egan's Diaspora hits the timespan/science buttons really hard.
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John Brunner's Crucible of Time fits pretty well.
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One of my very favorite books in this vein is Bruce Sterling’s Schismatrix, which takes places over decades of political and technological conflict between the space-faring descendants of humanity, divided into the major clades of genetically enhanced Shapers and cybernetically augmented Mechanists, as they evolve towards something as far beyond intelligence as life is beyond dead matter.
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Lester Shy posted:Can anybody recommend books in the vein of KSR's Aurora/2312 or Tchaikovsky's Children of Time? I dunno if those fall under the umbrella of "hard sci fi," but I'm really interested in stuff that takes place over a loooong timespan and is more focused on science and culture than action and war. Robert Reed's Great Ship stories and novels. Especially Mere. Accelerando by Charles Stross Seconding Diaspora by Greg Egan Brian Stableford's Emortality series
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StrixNebulosa posted:You can ask us too! What kind of sci-fi do you want to get into? Have you read anything by Anything like Gene Wolfe. I just finished the 5th Head of Cerberus and really enjoyed it.
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Biffmotron posted:One of my very favorite books in this vein is Bruce Sterling’s Schismatrix, which takes places over decades of political and technological conflict between the space-faring descendants of humanity, divided into the major clades of genetically enhanced Shapers and cybernetically augmented Mechanists, as they evolve towards something as far beyond intelligence as life is beyond dead matter. Oh yeah, schismatrix owns
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Biffmotron posted:One of my very favorite books in this vein is Bruce Sterling’s Schismatrix, which takes places over decades of political and technological conflict between the space-faring descendants of humanity, divided into the major clades of genetically enhanced Shapers and cybernetically augmented Mechanists, as they evolve towards something as far beyond intelligence as life is beyond dead matter.
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Lester Shy posted:Can anybody recommend books in the vein of KSR's Aurora/2312 or Tchaikovsky's Children of Time? I dunno if those fall under the umbrella of "hard sci fi," but I'm really interested in stuff that takes place over a loooong timespan and is more focused on science and culture than action and war. Oh poo poo, I can't believe I forgot the granddaddy of the loooooooong rear end time span. Olaf Stapledon. Check out Last and First Men and Star Maker
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Lester Shy posted:Can anybody recommend books in the vein of KSR's Aurora/2312 or Tchaikovsky's Children of Time? I dunno if those fall under the umbrella of "hard sci fi," but I'm really interested in stuff that takes place over a loooong timespan and is more focused on science and culture than action and war. Alistair Reynolds Blue Remembered Earth trilogy is decent but the books can drag a bit. Vernor Vinge's Fire Upon the Deep and Deepness in the Sky.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:she seems like she likes to make a lot of "utopia....HAHA NOT" books Such as...? The Dispossessed: An Ambiguous Utopia pretty much from the beginning presents the utopia as ambiguous even if you ignore the subtitle. The book starts with a mob trying to kill the main character for attempting to leave. The planet in The Left Hand Of Darkness is backwards and terrible from the beginning, just in ways that don't involve gender-based oppression. The only thing I can think of by her that's like that is "The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas" which is a short story that's probably not even a dozen pages long, but it's definitely one of her more famous works so I guess it could create that impression.
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I was thinking like City of Illusions, which it had the main city as a pretend utopia until you find out it isn't kind of a thing, but there was another one that I can't remember now
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Biffmotron posted:One of my very favorite books in this vein is Bruce Sterling’s Schismatrix, which takes places over decades of political and technological conflict between the space-faring descendants of humanity, divided into the major clades of genetically enhanced Shapers and cybernetically augmented Mechanists, as they evolve towards something as far beyond intelligence as life is beyond dead matter. Yeah this was good stuff, been ages since I read it though. There are a few stories from the same universe in The Crystal Express but the only one that really jumps out from my memory is "Swarm" so I think I will reread these soon ("Swarm" was really good and I think the only one that took place in a different star system).
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Got immediately sucked into Neuromancer after I picked it up for $7.99. Only about 30 pages in but I'm already itching to get back home and dog in again. First thing I've read in non audiobook format in a while.
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Strategic Tea posted:STEM is a helluva drug I've just read Jack London's The Star Rover, and the incitement that gets the protagonist labelled an incorrigible in prison, therefore leading him to spending his life in solitary learning to astrally project, is that he can't loving shut up about how inefficient the looms are in the prison workshop and how he is a time-and-motion expert and a professor and he knows so why aren't you thicko prison guards paying attention? He's the ultimate stemlord. It's amazing. I've known people I absolutely believe would be that stubborn, that incapable of seeing the poo poo they're going to get themselves into and incapable of realising that making the convicts work as hard and inefficiently as possible is the entire point. (Also amused that he only ever reincarnates as a male so he can waffle on about how women are so limited in vision and imagination and only want ~babies~ and ~lurve~ but we MEN are nobly inspired by them anyway gee thanks Jack never been so flattered in all my lives.)
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Shitstorm Trooper posted:Got immediately sucked into Neuromancer after I picked it up for $7.99. Only about 30 pages in but I'm already itching to get back home and dog in again. First thing I've read in non audiobook format in a while. The sequels are decent too.
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Runcible Cat posted:I've just read Jack London's The Star Rover, and the incitement that gets the protagonist labelled an incorrigible in prison, therefore leading him to spending his life in solitary learning to astrally project, is that he can't loving shut up about how inefficient the looms are in the prison workshop and how he is a time-and-motion expert and a professor and he knows so why aren't you thicko prison guards paying attention? Wasn't London a socialist (albeit one with some...interesting ideological blind spots)? I assume London, at least, was aware of why prison looms worked that way.
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Silver2195 posted:Wasn't London a socialist (albeit one with some...interesting ideological blind spots)? I assume London, at least, was aware of why prison looms worked that way. Yep. But I can't tell from the book whether it's deliberate irony or not; the protagonist certainly never twigs.
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sebmojo posted:The sequels are decent too. I think I might have enjoyed Count Zero a little more. All of them are good, though, and I love Gibson’s pacing.
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