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FizFashizzle posted:https://twitter.com/diannaESPN/status/1571533334047608834?s=20&t=aEt0XnbIzkePEIXWFgBWWQ this is one of the funniest things I've ever seen
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FizFashizzle posted:https://twitter.com/diannaESPN/status/1571533334047608834?s=20&t=aEt0XnbIzkePEIXWFgBWWQ hello my fellow gentlemen, let us partake in a game of the football on this fine day
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FizFashizzle posted:https://twitter.com/diannaESPN/status/1571533334047608834?s=20&t=aEt0XnbIzkePEIXWFgBWWQ Getting ready to lose to the horrific Giants.
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FizFashizzle posted:https://twitter.com/diannaESPN/status/1571533334047608834?s=20&t=aEt0XnbIzkePEIXWFgBWWQ I just cannot believe this. "Grim" Not how you want your professional football team to look before the game against Daniel Jones.
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pasaluki posted:I just cannot believe this. And this is the easy part of their schedule. They've got 3 homegames on deck against pretty flawed teams, but if they're 0-3 in these... he's gotta have been fired right? Saints Cardinals 49ers @Rams Buccaneers @Falcons @Bengals Falcons @Ravens Broncos <Bye> @Seahawks Steelers Lions @Buccaneers @Saints
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Kalli posted:And this is the easy part of their schedule. They've got 3 homegames on deck against pretty flawed teams, but if they're 0-3 in these... he's gotta have been fired right? Albright said Rhule has to make the playoffs or he’s gone. Unclear if tepper would wait until they’re mathematically eliminated or just be able to read the room. There’s a lot of coaching drama surfacing between the Rhule/Snow and the rest of the coaches with nfl experience. Also rumors that chinn and burns want out. Burns has apparently told this to Steve smith and peppers.
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What does firing Rhule after 5 games realistically accomplish? Even if he opens 0-5, is there anyone on the staff that Tepper thinks has "coaching potential"? If firing him lets you keep Chinn/Burns and prevents a locker room revolt, then, sure, but I don't see having an interim coach as being a real improvement.
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SKULL.GIF posted:What does firing Rhule after 5 games realistically accomplish? Even if he opens 0-5, is there anyone on the staff that Tepper thinks has "coaching potential"? I don't think they'll fire him either no matter how bad it gets before season's end. But I see several guys on that staff who could hold the fort down for the rest of the season and not be in danger of winning the job long term which is what I worry about with interim coaches. Let Paul Pasqualoni run the team, he can do it to the point of things not totally imploding. And even if they somehow end up with a few good wins you aren't hiring him. McAdoo would be the dangerous interim I guess. e: Now Rhule might leave on his own and Petrino his way out of there, that's a possibility if Nebraska loads up a truck full of money and brings it to him.
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I mean I haven't watched either game, but going by gdt posts, and that video, the Panthers players look pretty close to if not already having quit on their coach. At a point you're just firing him to avoid completely losing a year of development for your players.
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FizFashizzle posted:Albright said Rhule has to make the playoffs or he’s gone. Unclear if tepper would wait until they’re mathematically eliminated or just be able to read the room. Since 1970 only 38 out of 400 teams that started 0-2 made the playoffs Since 1980 only 6 out of 176 teams that started 0-3 made the playoffs Since 1980 only 1 out of 113 teams that started 0-4 made the playoffs Basically Rhule should packing his bags at this point
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Hackett looks like the example guy for why there are so many retreads in the league bc if you hire new you might get a dude that's completely in over his head and can't handle basic poo poo like sending a punt returner out on a punt He’s a Failson, he’s actually making the opposite point
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DeimosRising posted:What team was the one? Wanna say that was a Chargers team at some point in the last decade or so? Edit: right team but way off on the year. It was 1992 apparently \/\/\/ Yeah, that. Quiet Feet fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Sep 19, 2022 |
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Quiet Feet posted:Wanna say that was a Chargers team at some point in the last decade or so? 92 chargers iirc
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Docjowles posted:The charitable part of me wants to say "you can't expect a first time HC to be perfect right out of the gate", but Daboll somehow has the Daniel Jones Giants at 2-0 so The giants are 100% the panthers of last year. Or maybe the year before, whenever they started 4-0 and people wanted to believe despite themselves. They surprised a very questionable and flat titans team by a tiny bit, then squeaked one out against the pretty bad panthers. They're gonna fall back to reality imo. They haven't scored more than 21 points or won by more than three points. Barkley is a legit bright spot, and they look better talent wise than the last couple years in several areas (o line, WRs, RB, etc), but I don't think they will end up a particularly good team this year and watching their games is still pretty much a slog, just one that happens to end in victory. Not to say that Hackett hasn't been terrible because he has. There are things purely on him, but I'll also say that RW and the team haven't played up to their ability either
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DariusLikewise posted:Since 1970 only 38 out of 400 teams that started 0-2 made the playoffs Asterisk: 14 playoff teams only since 2020.
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Play posted:The giants are 100% the panthers of last year. Or maybe the year before, whenever they started 4-0 and people wanted to believe despite themselves. They surprised a very questionable and flat titans team by a tiny bit, then squeaked one out against the pretty bad panthers. They're gonna fall back to reality imo. Yeah I am in no way saying I think the Giants are good. It’s possible if not probable they will finish last in their division despite Dallas losing Dak and their entire O line. They have nothing outside of Barkley. My point is just that Daboll proves it’s possible to be a first time HC, even of a bad team, and not puke on your shoes. Hackett looks like a fan who won a “coach the team for a day” contest.
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I still think its too early to pass judgement on Zac Taylor. He took a team that was a tire fire and got it to the super bowl in three years. The GM drafted or signed good players but it was Zac who hired his staff that coached up the players, old and new. The big example being the DC who found a way to shut down Mahomes enough for the team's offense to get a it in gear and get a lead, in two different games in one season. Falling behind early frequently is a sign of bad preparation or playcalling but being able to catch up and secure a win in those situations is a sign of good coaching in its own way. I guess some of that is my opinion/how I look at it so I guess my sticking point is that unlike guys like Callahan, Gruden, and Pederson... Taylor didnt inherit a good or at least decent roster and get it to the Super Bowl the next year/within a few years. Taylor took a bare cupboard and coached the team through the meatgrinder that is the AFC to get to the Super Bowl in his third year. Its a bad sign for Zac Taylor if he sticks with his OL coach if the OL doesnt show improvement this year. Its a credit to him that they got to the big game with a bottom 5 OL but when your team spends that much in FA to try to fix it and your QB gets sacked 12 times in 2 games, uh, shits broke dude.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I still think its too early to pass judgement on Zac Taylor. He took a team that was a tire fire and got it to the super bowl in three years. The GM drafted or signed good players but it was Zac who hired his staff that coached up the players, old and new. The big example being the DC who found a way to shut down Mahomes enough for the team's offense to get a it in gear and get a lead, in two different games in one season. Falling behind early frequently is a sign of bad preparation or playcalling but being able to catch up and secure a win in those situations is a sign of good coaching in its own way. there's a chance the bengals o-line just needs time to gel. like the pats o-line last year looked horrific and then got their poo poo squared away after 4-5 games. an entirely new o-line's gonna take a min. it's still just two games so yea, I agree with waiting to see how things shake out still but they definitely need to make some adjustments
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Relentlessboredomm posted:there's a chance the bengals o-line just needs time to gel. like the pats o-line last year looked horrific and then got their poo poo squared away after 4-5 games. an entirely new o-line's gonna take a min.
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OperaMouse posted:Asterisk: 14 playoff teams only since 2020. The last 0-2 team(s) to make the playoffs was in 2018 so expanding the field has not be particularity helpful
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Isentropy posted:I feel it's always better to use tiers with rankings like these: Still too complicated. Helpful Bill Belichick (6x winner, 3x loser) Andy Reid (1x winner, 2x loser) Mike Tomlin (1x winner, 1x loser) Sean McVay (1x winner, 1x loser) Sean Payton (1x winner) Pete Carroll (1x winner, 1x loser) John Harbaugh (1x winner) Jim Harbaugh (1x loser) Kyle Shanahan (1x loser) Inert Mike Holmgren (1x winner, 2x loser) Tony Dungy (1x winner) Dick Vermeil (1x winner, 1x loser) Bill Cowher (1x winner, 1x loser) Bruce Arians (1x winner) Gary Kubiak (1x winner) Lovie Smith (1x loser) Ron Rivera (1x loser) Doug Pederson (1x winner) Jim Caldwell (1x loser) Harmful Tom Coughlin (2x winner) Jon Gruden (1x winner) Mike McCarthy (1x winner) Brian Billick (1x winner) Jeff Fisher (1x loser) Mike Martz (1x loser) Dan Quinn (1x loser) John Fox (2x loser) Ken Whisenhunt (1x loser) Zac Taylor (1x loser) Bill Callahan (1x loser) Jim Fassel (1x loser)
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Still too complicated.  Lovie would need an asterisk that goes something like "do not let him anywhere near offense" but I like this better
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Yeah. Wentz was clearly not the answer but it’s not like they had some other opportunity to get a great QB. Same for the Rivers season. Yeah, the real solution here is suck with Matt Ryan and then make it a priority to draft a quarterback in next year's draft, go all in on offensive line during free agency so dude doesn't get turned into Luck regardless of any other positional weakness, take your lumps, and develop things from there all with Reich still in charge, because I don't think he's that bad of a coach and taking shots at a dumpster fire retread and two stars who are just completely burnt out doesn't seem a great estimation of his abilities. But I doubt he gets that far. Hopefully he gets a fresh chance somewhere else, because these issues seem out of his hands and mainly the fault of the GM. But maybe there's something I'm not seeing.
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