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Llamadeus posted:Alicent just entered and they're literally looking at her during that dialogue. I don't know how that can be interpreted any other way. at least 1 person thought there was magic involved instead of poking a horse in the nose. some people need things explained to them in every detail
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Vegetable posted:If I recall the dialogue literally says nothing about a dress. A colorblind person would have to infer that the discussion about colors somehow relate to Alicent. I know, I addressed that two posts earlier. It’s a very easy inference to make. It just seems like a strange complaint from someone who already thinks the dialogue is overly expository was my point. Starks posted:I’m also colourblind. It’s extremely obvious from the context that they are referring to her dress.
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Sep 19, 2022 20:47
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Llamadeus posted:Alicent just entered and they're literally looking at her during that dialogue. I don't know how that can be interpreted any other way.
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Sep 19, 2022 20:47
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Xiahou Dun posted:Yes. I know. Which is why I’m remarking on how I knew that from the books because the show did not make that clear. Vegetable posted:Maybe you could just accept that this colorblind person experiences the world differently from you and stop implying that they’re actually just really bad TV viewers.
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Sep 19, 2022 20:51
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Also the scene could have been in black and white, since they're literally saying out loud "Oh snap! She's rocking a green dress, that means she's looking for a fight!"
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Sep 19, 2022 20:54
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Well gently caress me all to hell for mentioning a concern.
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Sep 19, 2022 20:59
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stev posted:Given that they had to explain the colour thing somehow I'm not too bothered that they have some gossipy bitches at a banquet explain it. I think daemon operates fully on the level of “gently caress it” and makes snap choices. I don’t think he went their fully intending to kill her but she called him on poo poo and then he caused her to get hosed up and then doubled down when she told him off.
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Sep 19, 2022 21:08
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alicent appear in a dress, stunning the whole room into silence. everyone stare at her. man staring at her: do you know what color hightower wears when they go to war? Green goon: this is a huge gently caress you to the color blind
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Sep 19, 2022 21:09
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OctaMurk posted:alicent appear in a dress, stunning the whole room into silence. everyone stare at her. Do you often think about invisible things.
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Sep 19, 2022 21:11
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Robobot posted:Also the scene could have been in black and white, since they're literally saying out loud "Oh snap! She's rocking a green dress, that means she's looking for a fight!" Yeah, but a fight with who? No one knows Alicent’s holding a grudge against Rhaenyra.
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Sep 19, 2022 21:13
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Can’t wait for Daemon to drop fools into the hole at the Vale. That was always a fun set.
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Sep 19, 2022 21:16
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It really loving sucks we don’t get the map open. I want to see Driftmark and a revised Kings Landing with an intact Dragonpit.
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Sep 19, 2022 21:18
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ruddiger posted:Yeah, but a fight with who? No one knows Alicent’s holding a grudge against Rhaenyra. It's just even more foreshadowing which they've been slathering on. Basically the entire kingdom knows what's going to happen when the king dies except him. They've shown peasants putting on plays talking about how it's a bad idea to have a queen as a leader.
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Sep 19, 2022 21:18
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ruddiger posted:Yeah, but a fight with who? No one knows Alicent’s holding a grudge against Rhaenyra. The entire realm is invested in the looming succession crisis because the king's current heir, Rhaenyra, is not his firstborn son, Aegon (Alicent's son). Otto is not the only one thinking what he just told Alicent, that her children's lives are in danger the moment Rhaenyra gets the crown (and probably earlier)
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Sep 19, 2022 21:18
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Why did they rush the wedding? Wasn't there supposed to be 7 days of tourneys and stuff. Judging from the previous tourney we saw, they don't care that much about minor knights getting their skulls bashed in.
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Sep 19, 2022 21:19
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ruddiger posted:Yeah, but a fight with who? No one knows Alicent’s holding a grudge against Rhaenyra. They don't have to know that particular detail for all the reasons Otto laid out. I think my biggest complaint about the actual plot so far is that characters like Alicent need things like that spelled out for her, or that nobody is counselling Rhaenyra on her political strategy. Half the cast is guileless as Ned and sleepwalking into oblivion. I'm not sure if its intentional characterization or just a byproduct of adapting the book (which I haven't read so idk if the characters are more naive in the show). Dead forum user posted:Why did they rush the wedding? Wasn't there supposed to be 7 days of tourneys and stuff. Judging from the previous tourney we saw, they don't care that much about minor knights getting their skulls bashed in. unlimited shrimp fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Sep 19, 2022 |
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Sep 19, 2022 21:20
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Dead forum user posted:Why did they rush the wedding? Wasn't there supposed to be 7 days of tourneys and stuff. Judging from the previous tourney we saw, they don't care that much about minor knights getting their skulls bashed in. Gotta lock it down with Laenor before he has time to react and scuttle the alliance.
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Sep 19, 2022 21:21
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Dead forum user posted:Why did they rush the wedding? Wasn't there supposed to be 7 days of tourneys and stuff. Judging from the previous tourney we saw, they don't care that much about minor knights getting their skulls bashed in.
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Sep 19, 2022 21:21
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unlimited shrimp posted:They don't have to know that particular detail for all the reasons Otto laid out. Yeah, I think Rhaenyra's closest political advisor is Viserys, which... Doesn't bode well for her plans.
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Sep 19, 2022 21:22
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PostNouveau posted:Gotta lock it down with Laenor before he has time to react and scuttle the alliance. That's my take too. The queen's bodyguard just literally beat the groom's best friend's face off. Best skip to the important part before something else happens.
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Sep 19, 2022 21:24
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Tender Bender posted:Yeah, I think Rhaenyra's closest political advisor is Viserys, which... Doesn't bode well for her plans. Daemon too, but if anything that's worse.
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Sep 19, 2022 21:25
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Dead forum user posted:Why did they rush the wedding? Wasn't there supposed to be 7 days of tourneys and stuff. Judging from the previous tourney we saw, they don't care that much about minor knights getting their skulls bashed in. The Dynasty is hanging by a thread, with a bunch of powder kegs, most of which are lit by people currently at the wedding. They want to solidify this alliance before something else goes wrong or someone makes a move, and the banquet made clear they may not even have had seven days. Even aside from Christen, just in the previous few minutes the Queen is essentially declaring her allegiance to her house and not the Targaryens, and Daemon showed up and started making out with Rhaenyra on the dance floor.
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Sep 19, 2022 21:26
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Xiahou Dun posted:Do you often think about invisible things. Honest question. The scene stops mid speech, the queen enters alone, the entire room watches her make a dramatic, scene-stealing entrance. The king looks sad, devastated even. The queen nods to her family as she passes them in the hall. They nod back, obviously beaming with pride. Camera centers on two characters, one of which asks "The beacon on the hightower, do you know what color it glows when Old Town calls its banners to war?" the other replies, with a grin, "green" What do you think a color blind viewer should infer that they are talking about? Specifically.
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The way they mention the green dress while we're seeing her enter with the green dress (sorry colorblind folks) is absolutely clunky. Someone upthread said they should have had Hightower colors mentioned before the entrance, rather than having someone lean over like Littlefinger to Sansa at the joust talking about how curious it is for dude to have just been knighted under curious conditions. It was dialogue to the audience more than it was between characters, so it feels dumb. Give Otto a line as he's leaving Alicent like, "If Rhaenyra sits the Iron Throne Aegon will be killed and on that day the green banners of Hightower will..." blah blah blah. Let the silence of the room tell the story, rather than practically breaking the fourth wall.
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Sep 19, 2022 21:32
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How on earth does Criston Cole stick around after that? I don't mean in the immediate aftermath, obviously the show just gave him a free murder in front of everyone pass. How does he stay at the Red Keep with Laenor around?
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Sep 19, 2022 21:33
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Honest question. The scene stops mid speech, the queen enters alone, the entire room watches her make a dramatic, scene-stealing entrance. The king looks sad, devastated even. The queen nods to her family as she passes them in the hall. They nod back, obviously beaming with pride. Camera centers on two characters, one of which asks "The beacon on the hightower, do you know what color it glows when Old Town calls its banners to war?" the other replies, with a grin, "green" I went, “O so they’re doing that part of the book? Okay, then I’m guessing the dress must be green.” Then I thought about it today and realized I couldn’t do that if I hadn’t read the book, and I remarked on that. Because it would’ve been harder to follow. I don’t think about colors very often because I can’t see them so they’re not usually relevant.
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Sep 19, 2022 21:36
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PostNouveau posted:How on earth does Criston Cole stick around after that? I don't mean in the immediate aftermath, obviously the show just gave him a free murder in front of everyone pass. How does he stay at the Red Keep with Laenor around? The queen is protecting him and Laenor is merely a prince consort and do you think they are gonna be like "hey im gay and you killed my boyfriend" - lots of whispers about laenor being broken up by the killing of a minor house knight
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I think daemon operates fully on the level of “gently caress it” and makes snap choices. I don’t think he went their fully intending to kill her but she called him on poo poo and then he caused her to get hosed up and then doubled down when she told him off. If anything, I thought Matt Daemon was more of a dick before he turned around with the rock. Leaving someone quadriplegic in a medieval setting, that's just cruel and unusual. Finish the job, you freak
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Sep 19, 2022 21:37
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PostNouveau posted:How on earth does Criston Cole stick around after that? I don't mean in the immediate aftermath, obviously the show just gave him a free murder in front of everyone pass. How does he stay at the Red Keep with Laenor around? Viserys/Corlys/Rhaenya probably locked Laenor/Rhaenyra down while everybody was clearing out. Don't need any more unexpected deaths before the alliance is formally sealed.
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Xiahou Dun posted:I went, “O so they’re doing that part of the book? Okay, then I’m guessing the dress must be green.” That's not really an answer to the question. What should a colorblind viewer (not you) infer from that dialogue? What should a colorblind viewer think they are talking about?
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Sep 19, 2022 21:40
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PostNouveau posted:How on earth does Criston Cole stick around after that? I don't mean in the immediate aftermath, obviously the show just gave him a free murder in front of everyone pass. How does he stay at the Red Keep with Laenor around?
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:That's not really an answer to the question. What should a colorblind viewer (not you) infer from that dialogue? What should a colorblind viewer think they are talking about? Do you usually harass people like this. I do not have answers for what this hypothetical person should think. Why would I have this knowledge from just having a concern. If I didn’t read the books I, personally, would have guessed it might be that and then would have taken a screenshot to check with someone else to confirm. Which would be annoying.
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Kinda surprised Daemon planned enough to not have it where his wife was mysteriously burned to death by a large creature
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LegionAreI posted:So is Lyonel Strong as good of a guy as he's coming off? He seems to be the only one who has any brains in the entire show. He'll probably do something awful at some point, but he seems like the seven kingdoms perpetually disappointed but well meaning dad.
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Vegetable posted:I assumed he slipped out amid the chaos but someone said he was brought out by guards so idk. In theory they don’t know what started the fracas and the deceased doesn’t seem to be from an important family so they could have just said whoop let’s deal with it later as well. Yeah I'm referring to preview images that show Criston Cole is still working in the Red Keep after the time skip. He's training some of the noble kids in combat in a future episode.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:In fairness, the age of the actresses fucks things up a bit here. You have one 18 year old actress playing a 15 and 20 year old, while you have a 12 year old actress playing a 12 year old, and then a 22 year old actress playing the same character at 17 years old. Functionally, one character basically aged a decade while the other did not. Guess Laena had a hard paper round. Also, what the gently caress was Matt Daemon complaining about, his wife seemed way cooler than the average Westorsi noble. Dumbass.
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Sep 19, 2022 22:12
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Criston probably has Alicent covering for him now, as she works up political allies, and Rhaenyra isn't going to let Laenor banish her fuckboi in any case. Daemon doesn't want a strong woman. His two stable relationships are with his niece, who he wanted to gently caress but backed off when he realized she was into it, and a prostitute who depends on him for protection. Morrow fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Sep 19, 2022 |
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Sep 19, 2022 22:16
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He wasn't related to her hth
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Sentinel Red posted:Also, what the gently caress was Matt Daemon complaining about, his wife seemed way cooler than the average Westorsi noble. Dumbass. When it was revealed he got married to a badass arya type i actually laughed because what a loving idiot
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