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BMan posted:First thing that popped into my head This is eerily beautiful.
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Anime Store Adventure posted:I’ve watched enough Air Disasters that I have to disagree that that sort of damage modeling would ever be fun. A game will never be able to capture the insane things that have gone wrong on planes. Watching a fireball once or twice is fun but loses its novelty quick and they’ll never capture weird cascading failures combined with weird ingenuity like this case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reeve_Aleutian_Airways_Flight_8?wprov=sfti1 Every person is different, but I think if MSFS had damage & crash modeling comparable to BeamNG.Drive, or even something like IL-2 Sturmovik, I'd probably never leave the house
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Yeah nursing a damaged warbird or bomber back to your home airfield is a great experience. Failures in MSFS don't quite have the same excitement to them, although I think the flybywire ones at least are very interesting. I think the best exciting 'challenge' I can think of right now is taking an airliner and taking of from Paro (VQPR) during a thunderstorm, just before dawn. You're taking off in the middle of the himalaya, with mountains everywhere around you that are only illuminated by occassional lightning, while your GPWS tells you that the ground is creeping up. Very spooky. And it's a great pay-off when you finally find a way out of the massive thunderstorm cell, or a tunnel between them, towards the rising sun.
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What is the real take on XP12 beta from you bunch? A lot of other forums are either inherently dedicated to XP or to a competitor, and large public space like Twitter and Reddit are salted with corporate marketing.
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It seems an awful lot like X-plane 11.
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GutBomb posted:It seems an awful lot like X-plane 11. Which seemed an awful lot like X-Plane 10
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It's a step in the right direction however it's not an MSFS killer like some folks were (wrongly) expecting. Will I get it? Once relased on Steam, yes. Will I still play MSFS2020? Also, yes.
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JayKay posted:It's a step in the right direction however it's not an MSFS killer like some folks were (wrongly) expecting. If you don't mind me asking, what's the respective strengths of both sims that make you keep them both around?
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Lord Stimperor posted:If you don't mind me asking, what's the respective strengths of both sims that make you keep them both around? Not them, but I used to fly P3D and XP10 both actively a few years ago. I think GA planes feel more fun in XP due to their modeling physics. P3D always felt more stable and boring when it comes to the actual flying. I have no idea if either was more realistic, because I have not flown IRL. But at least with my plane collection, larger planes with more glass cockpits and systems were nicer to use with P3D. The UI for manipulating knobs and such was more annoying and wonky in XP imo. So they have their strengths. As it is, MSFS graphics are so much ahead that I don't see myself buying payware planes for XP, should I get the new one some day. The playing field was much more level before.
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I've always been into both sims. I grew up with MSFS (started with MSFS 5.0) and when I came across a boxed copy of XP9 at a local Microcenter, I started playing that too. I also had P3Dv4 for awhile. Originally it was: MSFS: VFR flights, goofing around, sightseeing. XP11: IFR flights, helicopters, serious simming, flipping switches, etc. My biggest gripe with MSFS was their systems, or lack thereof. But it has gotten significantly better (shoutout to the WT guys) I'm also using the TDS GTN addon which really makes things nice. The biggest knock against XP11 would be the scenery/autogen and weather (especially when compared to MSFS) but I have tried to improve that with Vstates Ortho, X-Scenery, Enhanced Skyscapes, and the NOAA Weather plugin. But honestly now it's more about what plane I want to fly. Do I want to do some mountain flying and sight seeing? MSFS with the 414A or 310r Do I want to do some cargo ops? XP11 with a A300-600r or A310. Do I want to do the full start up of a helicopter and then lawndart it? XP11 or DCS Do I want to recreate a recent flight I took to Orlando in a A320? MSFS with the Fenix A320 Do I want to do some JANET ops to Area 51? MSFS with the PMDG 736. Do I want to do some GA pattern work at my local airport? Justflight Arrow in MSFS or the vFlyte Arrow in XP11 To me, I think it's crazy how far we've come and how there are so many flight sim options out there now that can help scratch that itch.
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Has Asobo given a launch date for SU10? I thought it was supposed to be this week.
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I think they added an extra week to give them time to stop laughing at X-Plane 12.
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Xplane is a good sim for the reasons posted above. Great job outlining the differences and I agree. I may even buy the Challenger 650, take that nerds
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Bentai posted:Has Asobo given a launch date for SU10? I thought it was supposed to be this week. Supposedly they're waiting on nVidia to release new drivers for additional stability, but nVidia has themselves delayed the release.
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Where are my helicopters and gliders, damnit?! That's not even in this update!
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soggybagel posted:You underestimate how much fun it would be to crash a plane into my friends houses and watch a fireball ensue. This is actually been something of a bullying issue iirc. People crashing into houses of their enemies and posting it on snapchat or tiktok, etc. and just loling at them.
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dialhforhero posted:This is actually been something of a bullying issue iirc. People crashing into houses of their enemies and posting it on snapchat or tiktok, etc. and just loling at them. I don't know if this is a dril tweet but it should be.
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please stop crshaing into my house in flight simulator, it's not fun, its bullying
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As always, it depends on the context. Like yes, if someone who is actively harassing you and threatening you in other ways also sends you something like that, that could be scary. But also I'm pretty sure that story comes from just a handful of instances the media found and amplified for a moment before dropping it when they saw nobody really cared.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:As always, it depends on the context. Like yes, if someone who is actively harassing you and threatening you in other ways also sends you something like that, that could be scary. If someone really wanted to harass you, and knew where you live, there's unfortunately far more destructive and dangerous ways of doing it. The FS aspect makes it seem absurd.
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I think we have to view it in context. I think the idea is that the victims are already targeted in a social media campaign, i.e. already bullied over TikTok, messenger apps and what not. Putting your middle school enemies into a video game is as old as video games. Including their house in that tactic makes it spicier. To someone who already feels unsafe that might make it worse.
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Is anyone here running MSFS (Steam) in Linux? Are there any tweaks needed to bring performance up?
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soggybagel posted:You underestimate how much fun it would be to crash a plane into my friends houses and watch a fireball ensue. When MFS came out I streamed myself playing to my friends and had them help me find their houses from the air so I could do my best impression of a loitering munition. Edit: Oh wow I didn't know the area 51 air taxi used the -600 specifically. No more pretending I'm using a regular one anymore. skooma512 fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Sep 19, 2022 |
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skooma512 posted:When MFS came out I streamed myself playing to my friends and had them help me find their houses from the air so I could do my best impression of a loitering munition. Yeah and also I remember seeing a couple tweet videos really get traction when the game came out of people crashing into big buildings and all the responses being like "OMG I THOUGHT THIS WAS REAL" and stuff. We are easily amused.
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soggybagel posted:Yeah and also I remember seeing a couple tweet videos really get traction when the game came out of people crashing into big buildings and all the responses being like "OMG I THOUGHT THIS WAS REAL" and stuff. We are easily amused. It helps if all involved are in on the joke I guess
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I mean, didn't we have actual news outlets reporting on DCS clips as if it were actual combat footage out of Ukraine? So, Poe's law and all that.
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Was looking up what Janet ops were and I think PMDG might be trying to tell us something, because DC-6s also did Area 51 transport. 
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Scruff McGruff posted:I mean, didn't we have actual news outlets reporting on DCS clips as if it were actual combat footage out of Ukraine? So, Poe's law and all that. Yeah it was of a plane getting shot at from AA stuff I think? And then it got reshared where its like "THIS IS THE GHOST OF UKRAINE" or whatever.
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soggybagel posted:Yeah it was of a plane getting shot at from AA stuff I think? And then it got reshared where its like "THIS IS THE GHOST OF UKRAINE" or whatever. Scruff McGruff posted:I mean, didn't we have actual news outlets reporting on DCS clips as if it were actual combat footage out of Ukraine? So, Poe's law and all that. At least the most popularized clip wasn't AA, it was a supposed dog fight between the Ghost of Kyiv and a Russian fighter. It helps that the clips were of poor image quality and that the planes were only in-frame for brief moments. They looked at bit odd but it took a while until people mustered the courage to definitely call them fabrications. The Ghost of Kyiv story was a wild period in meme theory -- it was really interesting to see it evolve to the point that it was reported on in the news and started to lead its own life. Cojawfee posted:Even War Thunder looks real enough if you're watching a clip on a phone. There was a guy on the War Thunder forums who was able to create eerily good WW2 gun-cam footage. After turning the colors into a poorly exposed black and white, he zoomed in the picture to a narrow FOV, emulated out-of-focus camera lenses, added a bunch of artifacts until it looked like it was really some archival footage. If you saw a number of these you would be able to pick out the 'gaminess' of the sequences and realize they were fake, but you might get away with hiding one of these clips between real clips and fool a good number of casual observers, especially if they don't know how plane games 'look'. Edit: I can't find the original author, but these ones are nice as well; sometimes they overdo it, but certain passages are very well done, especially how it looks when the planes turn away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgiH2OaBr-o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0L-qoojD5M https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/kqk7ti/war_thunder_gun_camera_footage_1944_colorized/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXecKcQmdzg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn8ipsUIdek Lord Stimperor fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Sep 19, 2022 |
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I just got the new Honeycomb Yoke, so my old one is up for sale. Thought I'd give Goons the first opportunity to buy it if they wanted to. I was thinking $200+shipping?
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FunOne posted:Shouldn't SU10 be dropping soon? Yes, their originally said last week but I think some issue with nVidia driver came up so they are waiting for nVidia to release a new one before they do their release.
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Now we know what they were waiting for in Nvidia's drivers: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/dlss3-ai-powered-neural-graphics-innovations/ MSFS is going to have DLSS 3 support, a new branch of DLSS that includes a form of AI-assisted motion interpolation.
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https://twitter.com/MSFSofficial/status/1572288998042894337 SU10 drops tomorrow.
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Squiggle posted:Ugh DLSS 3 only for the new 4000-series Geforces sucks They've added DLSS support for current cards though haven't they? It was what all the testing was about. I would assume 4xxx series cards to get super-special DLSS and the rest of us get normal DLSS.
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I’ll believe it when I see it becuse the game isn’t cpu heavy it’s single thread heavy on one very bad ui design And of course their example is a GA where none of the problems present
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