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Canine Blues Arooo posted:Ostensibly, both of us. Maybe this is a detail I'm ignorant of. The whole idea is that we have terms we've agreed on written in 'not lawyer' language, and we want to hire a lawyer to do whatever it takes to make that legal in addition to guiding a conversation around anything we might have missed. You said each of you could afford to buy it, but this way you're in debt less. Paying off your mortgage more quickly is not a great reason to entangle your financial life with another person. You could probably go visit the homebuying thread if you want more forums to tell you it's a bad idea.
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euphronius posted:Representation doesn’t work like that . She (the lawyer ) has to represent one of you only . Roger that - this is a good bit of info.
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Sep 20, 2022 22:28
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:There is a nonzero chance that this experience ends in a real doozy of an E/N thread - I'm keenly aware. Meanwhile the chance that it won’t is exactly zero.
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therobit posted:Meanwhile the chance that it won’t is exactly zero. I'll make a spicy thread when it blows up.
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Sep 20, 2022 22:34
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Curiosity/bar exam question: For which of the following is it ethical to have a single lawyer represent multiple associated humans and why? - A married couple - A registered civil union couple - An unmarried couple that has cohabited for 20 years - An unmarried couple that has has been together for 6 months, where both people say it is a like-marriage relationship - A polycule of 6 people who have been together for a long time - A polycule of 6 people who have been together for a short time - Siblings - Parent and child
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Foxfire_ posted:Curiosity/bar exam question: For which of the following is it ethical to have a single lawyer represent multiple associated humans and why? Are they adverse to each other?
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Sep 20, 2022 22:38
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Lets say they're like Canine Blue Aroos and want to buy a house where everybody has some legal right to the property.
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Foxfire_ posted:Curiosity/bar exam question: For which of the following is it ethical to have a single lawyer represent multiple associated humans and why? Wanna see a parent/child ethics waiver form.
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:I'll make a spicy thread when it blows up. I really love drama and can't wait to read it but why not just buy two moderately sized homes in the same town in the middle of nowhere instead?
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Sep 20, 2022 23:19
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euphronius posted:Representation doesn’t work like that . She (the lawyer ) has to represent one of you only . It means you can sleep with the lawyer now
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CongoJack posted:I really love drama and can't wait to read it but why not just buy two moderately sized homes in the same town in the middle of nowhere instead? The very, very brief synopsis is that we both have goals that involve having a shitload of space. The house is about 8,000sq ft. - We want to be able to build out some stuff that just doesn't work without some very big rooms: We want a workshop, and a gaming room / lab. We want to be able to host our friends and have the space to support that and bedrooms to serve as lodging if needed. We often work on projects together (both personally and professionally) and having the ability to do so in person as an option is attractive. Having two incomes can also accelerate this process a great deal. There is a laundry list of minor to moderate selling points here as well for co-ownership, and I'm glossing over details. We are both extremely aware that this can go south. We are pretty committed to writing up a contract for that reason, not because we don't think we couldn't negotiate a split fairly in the good times, but because we agree we need a legal fallback in the bad. I do think our situation is somewhat unique in that there isn't a lot of financial or familial pressures here. But yeah, I'm not ignorant of the downsides and potential friction that could come from this, and you can hold me to a story if/when it blows up.
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Yesterday the Country Sheriff (I'm in NH) pulled into my neighbor's driveway and was carrying one of those manila envelopes. My neighbor is an rear end in a top hat that doesn't clean up his trash so I'm hoping he gets 
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:The very, very brief synopsis is that we both have goals that involve having a shitload of space. The house is about 8,000sq ft. - We want to be able to build out some stuff that just doesn't work without some very big rooms: We want a workshop, and a gaming room / lab. We want to be able to host our friends and have the space to support that and bedrooms to serve as lodging if needed. We often work on projects together (both personally and professionally) and having the ability to do so in person as an option is attractive. Having two incomes can also accelerate this process a great deal. There is a laundry list of minor to moderate selling points here as well for co-ownership, and I'm glossing over details. How about I sign on as well and instead of two people in an 8,000 square foot house we have 3 in a 12,000 square footer? I got a killer home theater setup and VR room and gym equipment and stuff.
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bird with big dick posted:How about I sign on as well and instead of two people in an 8,000 square foot house we have 3 in a 12,000 square footer? I got a killer home theater setup and VR room and gym equipment and stuff. Could they do a 'last survivor' contract where whoever occupies the longest owns the whole thing?
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Sep 21, 2022 00:23
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daslog posted:Could they do a 'last survivor' contract where whoever occupies the longest owns the whole thing? go full tontine
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:The very, very brief synopsis is that we both have goals that involve having a shitload of space. The house is about 8,000sq ft. - We want to be able to build out some stuff that just doesn't work without some very big rooms: We want a workshop, and a gaming room / lab. We want to be able to host our friends and have the space to support that and bedrooms to serve as lodging if needed. We often work on projects together (both personally and professionally) and having the ability to do so in person as an option is attractive. Having two incomes can also accelerate this process a great deal. There is a laundry list of minor to moderate selling points here as well for co-ownership, and I'm glossing over details. FWIW I think this sounds cool and you sound like you both have your heads on straight. Getting it all hashed out and written up in a contract is the right approach. But yeah, you'll each need your own lawyer.
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bird with big dick posted:How about I sign on as well and instead of two people in an 8,000 square foot house we have 3 in a 12,000 square footer? I got a killer home theater setup and VR room and gym equipment and stuff. We'll put another floor on top of the existing top floor where you can live and we'll call it the bird house.
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Canine Blues just make sure that both of you understand that you do not have the right to force a sale of the entire house if/when you want to get your money out, without the consent of the other party, unless you're willing to go to court to force it (and a judge agrees of course). That will be costly and take a lot of time and of course it will destroy your personal relationship. Provided you both are fully aware that the other person can prevent you from easily cashing out of your stake, you're OK. Like really seriously internalize not that the other person is your bud and will of course agree to sell when you want to; but rather that the other person might feel like now is not the right time of the market or something and can say "no" and you're stuck continuing to make payments etc. If the other party doesn't want to sell the property, you're left with trying to sell your share. Good luck with that. The population of people quite interested in owning 50% of a residential house that already has some stranger living in it is low. You can expect this situation to also gently caress the value of your ownership stake compared to nominal market values at the time. Even if you write on paper that you both agree that either of you can force a sale, that may or may not be legally enforceable (I'm not sure, so you should ask your lawyer who you will hire to represent you in this deal). Naturally all of the above is subject to particular state laws so don't take my word for it. I'm not a lawyer, I'm just familiar because my stepdad has entered into a TIC with a buddy of his on the home he and my mom are now living in in Colorado, they have a "friendly agreement" scrawled on a scrap of paper, and my stepdad did not consult with a lawyer, so I've been reading up on all the ways in which they're being loving stupid (his buddy is a retired real estate agent! he should know better! he probably does!) Also guess what happens if one of you goes into bankruptcy or has a judgement against them. Or if someone is injured on your shared property as a result of negligence by your partner, which you did not even know about. Or what happens when one of you dies. LOL So you just need to understand that the money you put into this could be far more difficult to get back out than even the normally illiquid status of residential real estate, and that you are in all kinds of legal hazard that your specific TIC contract mostly can't get you out of.
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:The very, very brief synopsis is that we both have goals that involve having a shitload of space. The house is about 8,000sq ft. - We want to be able to build out some stuff that just doesn't work without some very big rooms: We want a workshop, and a gaming room / lab. We want to be able to host our friends and have the space to support that and bedrooms to serve as lodging if needed. We often work on projects together (both personally and professionally) and having the ability to do so in person as an option is attractive. Having two incomes can also accelerate this process a great deal. There is a laundry list of minor to moderate selling points here as well for co-ownership, and I'm glossing over details. Have you ever lived in the same house or apartment with this person? If so how long? If not go move into their place right now, or them to yours. Just for the love of God try roommates first if you haven't. Maybe they slurp soup. Just every loving spoonful sllluuuurrrrrrppppp sluuuurrrp clink ssllllluuuuuuuuurrrpp.
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Leperflesh posted:You can expect this situation to also gently caress the value of your ownership stake compared to nominal market values at the time. Leperflesh posted:Even if you write on paper that you both agree that either of you can force a sale, that may or may not be legally enforceable
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We are failing to consider this could be act 1 of a romantic comedy and they're going to get married in this giant house.
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Trapick posted:We are failing to consider this could be act 1 of a romantic comedy and they're going to get married in this giant house. MPRE question: can the lawyers they hire take a cut of the royalties of the inevitable rom com novel and/or show as their compensation?
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Muir posted:MPRE question: can the lawyers they hire take a cut of the royalties of the inevitable rom com novel and/or show as their compensation? He could have, but the roommate secured the rights to derivative works during the third round of negotiations, in exchange for use of the Man Cave on alternating Tuesdays.
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Muir posted:MPRE question: can the lawyers they hire take a cut of the royalties of the inevitable rom com novel and/or show as their compensation? These questions are why you get title insurance.
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No you can’t represent business partners IRRC
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Muir posted:No, but unless you signed something assigning ownership of the work to them, they don't own whatever you made. So if a compny then goes to use that work they've used my IP without permission?
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Azuth0667 posted:So if a compny then goes to use that work they've used my IP without permission? Whether you have any IP protections that cover the work you did will very much depend on what kind of work it was.
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daslog posted:Yesterday the Country Sheriff (I'm in NH) pulled into my neighbor's driveway and was carrying one of those manila envelopes. My neighbor is an rear end in a top hat that doesn't clean up his trash so I'm hoping he gets Sheriffs sometime serve summons for lawsuits, citations for code violations, and other notices. Bank foreclosure notices *typically come in the mail, but NH may have certain rules You can usually search County + Foreclosures and look and see if the county has his property listed. You can also search court cases sometimes and see if his name appears in a civil or criminal case. But if the sheriff is serving him papers, it's probably not a good thing.
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:The very, very brief synopsis is that we both have goals that involve having a shitload of space. The house is about 8,000sq ft. - We want to be able to build out some stuff that just doesn't work without some very big rooms: We want a workshop, and a gaming room / lab. We want to be able to host our friends and have the space to support that and bedrooms to serve as lodging if needed. We often work on projects together (both personally and professionally) and having the ability to do so in person as an option is attractive. Having two incomes can also accelerate this process a great deal. There is a laundry list of minor to moderate selling points here as well for co-ownership, and I'm glossing over details. Are y’all loving?
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EwokEntourage posted:Are y’all loving? Neg.
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:We'll put another floor on top of the existing top floor where you can live and we'll call it the bird house. No dice. In order to do this, you'll need a specialist in bird law and since bird law in this country is not governed by reason, the only lawyer competent to handle it lives in Philadelphia and never leaves that city.
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A few years ago the CIA released the contents of Osama bin Laden's hard drive. They redacted anything violating copyright like the FFVII installation. I think at the time I download the contents from this CIA.gov page and couldn't find the save file. I'm curious again how far he got in FFVII. What kind of lawyer do you need to help file a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request? One could argue the save file is not covered by copyright. Heran Bago fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Sep 21, 2022 |
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It’s unlikely that hard drive ever existed but go nuts .
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euphronius posted:It’s unlikely that hard drive ever existed but go nuts . What do you mean? Is that cia.gov webpage is a hoax?
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Waiting to consult with a lawyer on whether you should?
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Heran Bago posted:What do you mean? Is that cia.gov webpage is a hoax? Is this a rhetorical question ?
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Euphronius has spent too much time in c-spam.
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euphronius posted:Is this a rhetorical question ? I'd like to know what kind of legal professional could help a US citizen file a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request.
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A FOIA lawyer .
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Heran Bago posted:No, I don't understand what you mean. Like it's right there for anyone to download. It was news back when it happened. I assumed it is legit. Muckrock.com has extensive info.
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