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Kiriko origin story https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLsJaMzLltE
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Map design was OW's biggest flaw from the beginning. Even when it was pretty fun to play the maps held it back from what it could've been.
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Sep 20, 2022 17:42
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Kiriko origin story Oh, so the lore explains why she's the fusion of shrine maiden and kunoichi. Lol at whoever made that silly complaint list.
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Sep 20, 2022 17:45
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teagone posted:Oh, so the lore explains why she's the fusion of shrine maiden and kunoichi. Lol at whoever made that silly complaint list. Lore can be made to tell anything though. "She's from a family of ninjas, but has a part-time job at a local Grill. That's why she uses a stash of burgers to heal friends." edit: Now that I think it closely. Brigitta should be the burger healer. She works for the local food delivery app in a rough neighborhood. That's why the armour and shield. Issaries fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Sep 20, 2022 |
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Sep 20, 2022 17:58
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Yeah kiriko isn't a real person with a real history lol, they can write whatever they want
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Sep 20, 2022 18:20
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adhuin posted:Lore can be made to tell anything though. 
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Sep 20, 2022 18:34
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Groovelord Neato posted:Map design was OW's biggest flaw from the beginning. Even when it was pretty fun to play the maps held it back from what it could've been. I reinstalled TF2 a few days ago and it's been such a breath of fresh air to have flank paths to the point instead of a big dumb meatgrinder chokepoint
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Sep 20, 2022 18:34
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Sockser posted:I reinstalled TF2 a few days ago and it's been such a breath of fresh air to have flank paths to the point instead of a big dumb meatgrinder chokepoint I was playing OW on a team and just walked away from the game when they released their like 16th chokepoint map
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Jack Trades posted:Remove every hero and all the game modes.
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Sep 20, 2022 18:41
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Herstory Begins Now posted:I was playing OW on a team and just walked away from the game when they released their like 16th chokepoint map I'm a big dumb idiot and figured they'd start making good maps after the release ones because it was such an obvious problem and nope just keep on keeping on.
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Sep 20, 2022 18:47
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I think it's a feature, not bug situation because people who don't really have any interest in learning the game past a very basic level (which is a huge amount of OW's population) generally love choke points for the same reason people prefer defense to offense - you just shoot at there obvious game prescribed frag generator location and the kill feed lights up. This is honestly pretty true in TF2 too, the most popular maps there still have mondo chokes. Even the map often heralded as TF2's greatest, Badwater Basin, has tons of points in the map where there's no realistic way to approach the enemy kill blob other than head-on (though there's some points that are much better).
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Sep 20, 2022 18:55
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Countblanc posted:I think it's a feature, not bug situation because people who don't really have any interest in learning the game past a very basic level (which is a huge amount of OW's population) generally love choke points for the same reason people prefer defense to offense - you just shoot at there obvious game prescribed frag generator location and the kill feed lights up. This is honestly pretty true in TF2 too, the most popular maps there still have mondo chokes. Even the map often heralded as TF2's greatest, Badwater Basin, has tons of points in the map where there's no realistic way to approach the enemy kill blob other than head-on (though there's some points that are much better). in theory I'd agree that a lot of people like chokepoints (or at least enjoy them from time to time), but that's anachronistic with designing a game to be specifically an esport with a deliberate development focus on the highest level of gameplay. I say in theory because even in spite of a lot of people enjoying chokepoint aspects in maps, man the maps in OW get almost universally panned on that specific point, even by people who otherwise enjoy the game. idk what it even is exactly, but they really missed the mark on maps and they took like three years to ever even acknowledge a bunch of the major issues with several of their maps.
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Sep 20, 2022 18:59
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hanamura remained completely unchanged for however many years ow1 has been out lmao I don't really have as much of an issue with other maps just that one
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Sep 20, 2022 18:59
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The two point capture maps suck because of the choke points that are just miserable to attack, but I don't really mind the other ones. I love all the control maps.
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Sep 20, 2022 19:04
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(hanamura is actually fine if your team changes vs a mei but if you use a non-dive comp vs mei it's really really painful unlike any other map in the game)
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Sep 20, 2022 19:04
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IIRC from beta the new Push maps had tons of flank options at pretty much every part of the map, so it does seem like they're trying to move away from spamming @ chokes
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Sep 20, 2022 19:24
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adhuin posted:Lore can be made to tell anything though. Well yeah, lol. But the complaint posted ITT specifically targeted Kiriko's design being an amalgamation of a ninja and shrine maiden.
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Sep 20, 2022 19:26
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They seem to have made a choice in Hanamura of making the first point more or less one choke to balance the long travel time for defenders. They do this on pretty much all those maps right? Tf2 had this problem early on. What's the map, Hoodoo? It's got a death hallway that makes the window into Hanamura's first point look like GOTY material.
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Sep 20, 2022 19:28
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wouldn't have chokepoint problems if you could still tell your team "let's all be gorillas" and leap to the point and throw down six shields at once. not that that didn't have its own issues, but it's wild that the maps were designed with that kind of play in mind and never meaningfully altered afterwards.
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Sep 20, 2022 19:48
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Yeah, Kiriko looks fun as hell lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zPigt9cUxc
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Sep 20, 2022 20:13
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https://twitter.com/pcgamer/status/1572320100035842049?t=l8cz56XdRM6rcyDQN0Zilw&s=19 I would like to wish Geoff a very why did you ruin Roadhog you turd and wish him luck in future endeavors. Father Wendigo fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Sep 20, 2022 |
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Sep 20, 2022 21:25
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That cleanse ability is straight up a counter for 2/3 of Ana's kit
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Sep 20, 2022 22:59
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:That cleanse ability is straight up a counter for 2/3 of Ana's kit That might be part of the point- Ana was HaHa Fuckoff strong in both betas, a large part of which that you basically won any fight you got a AntiNade + Ult off and lived virtually any amount of time after.
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Sep 20, 2022 23:49
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[me dying after landing two kunai bodyshots] nice i hardcountered that ana
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"It's ok that heroes are now behind a paywall, because we're moving away from hard counters"
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i feel like OW players have a really malleable definition of "hard counter".
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Sep 21, 2022 03:01
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Ignorance is bliss. Hide the chat box, mute voice, and play whatever the gently caress you want. If you lose, carry harder next time.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Kiriko origin story NGL kinda boring?
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Runa posted:The maps were terrible in the beta but that was made up for by there being no MMO roles, just varying types of utility tied to a DPS baseline functionality. Yeah I was curious about Gundam and went to youtube to check it out. First video I saw was a guy getting a million kills, zipping around the map and oneshotting people with his melee weapon. gently caress THAT. I'm not looking to play another FPS game that has Doomfist in it. Hard pass for me
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DrunkPanda posted:Yeah I was curious about Gundam and went to youtube to check it out. First video I saw was a guy getting a million kills, zipping around the map and oneshotting people with his melee weapon. gently caress THAT. I'm not looking to play another FPS game that has Doomfist in it. Hard pass for me That sounds like a blast to me dude, sorry you hated it
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It honestly sounds like it rules and ill probably pick it up when im inevitably disillusioned with ow2
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Sep 21, 2022 18:40
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Preview of the patch notes for launch https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23824005/ Most notably they seem to have added a global 30% refund (so now all characters can get up to 30% charge refunded when swapping, not just DPS), and a new passive exclusive to DPS to compensate for this (DPS now get a brief non-stackable speed/reload boost for 2.5 seconds after a kill). The rest is the same patch notes that leaked last week for OWL.
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Ya know I will say, for as bad as the battle pass is and the poo poo with heroes being locked to it and all that, I am quite happy for lootboxes to be removed from the arcade modes as an incentive to win. It really made mystery heroes into what should be a goofy gently caress around mode, into just a bad time because getting lootboxed depended on you winning this complete roll of the dice game mode. Now there's nothing on the line and these mods can just exist for the sake of being goofy fun
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Ignis posted:Preview of the patch notes for launch Whoa they actually did the ultimate passive thing I've mentioned
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Ignis posted:Preview of the patch notes for launch Lol they still have no idea what to do with Moira. Guess she's going to be unchanged at launch.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Lol they still have no idea what to do with Moira. Guess she's going to be unchanged at launch. Good. Moira doesn't need changing. Unless they want to give her tracer-like 3 teleport charges and let her teleport during her ult. Also remove healing orb slowdown when it's healing herself. Jack Trades fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Sep 21, 2022 |
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Moira was part of their low-skill/high-impact design phase that also brought us Brigitte, absolute garbage for the gameGravitas Shortfall posted:Kiriko origin story why are the characters from Japan the only ones with literal magic spirit ghost powers and poo poo
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Sep 21, 2022 21:24
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All Japanese people can climb walls, is what Overwatch taught me.
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I admit I still don't get why moira is so despised.
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My friend who played the beta with me and prefers high execution fast characters in basically every game specifically disliked her and Winston for being so effective against the type of character he likes for relatively less effort, otherwise idk. Her yellow mists look gross, I guess that's something.
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