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90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
Dont gently caress with the ducks, but especially not the disney ducks.

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hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

DocBubonic posted:

This looks like one of the pregen characters from the introductory adventure they put out.

The game also inspired me to do this:



this is, for the record, the first time anybody has actually mentioned the name of the game in this conversation

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

hexwren posted:

this is, for the record, the first time anybody has actually mentioned the name of the game in this conversation

Original Scandinavian Tabletop RPG™ has been mentioned several times already :ssh:

sasha_d3ath
Jun 3, 2016

Ban-thing the man-things.
I'm furious I missed the teledildonic chess controversy discussion, and thus my chance to say WHAT A SCENE, WHAT A JOY, WHAT A LOVELY SIGHT, WHEN MY GAME IS THE BIG SENSATIIIIIOOOOOOON

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

KHABAHBLOOOM

Comrade Koba posted:

Original Scandinavian Tabletop RPG™ has been mentioned several times already :ssh:

Speaking of Swedish rpgs.

A few years ago there was a Swedish rpg called "Western." I think they did a Kickstarter for an English edition.

I've never been able to find a copy; the Kickstarter ended long ago and I haven't been able to find one for sale. Anyone ever play it, or have a spare copy?

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




sasha_d3ath posted:

I'm furious I missed the teledildonic chess controversy discussion, and thus my chance to say WHAT A SCENE, WHAT A JOY, WHAT A LOVELY SIGHT, WHEN MY GAME IS THE BIG SENSATIIIIIOOOOOOON

See, I thought chess players got their kicks above the waistline, but apparently I was wrong.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

seaborgium posted:

See, I thought chess players got their kicks above the waistline, but apparently I was wrong.
No, that guy was only watching the game, controlling it.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

This is just one data point but I have a Swedish friend I've known for many many years and when I found out he was like... deeply into Donald Duck, it was kinda odd? He was not otherwise a Comic Book Person or anything. But he explained to me that Donald is reflective of some deeply ingrained aspects of the Swedish psyche and is kind of the national iconic cartoon character. Everyone in Sweden identifies with the storyline of "constantly running into problems" and "flying into a rage" and "having to calm down and just accept your lot in life, because you won't win."

Swedes don't give a poo poo about mickey or goofy or whoever. It's just Donald.

So that's why it makes incredible amounts of sense for me to learn, now in this thread, that the Swedish standard RPG is about ducks who are always drawn in the Disney style.

joylessdivision
Jun 15, 2013



sasha_d3ath posted:

I'm furious I missed the teledildonic chess controversy discussion, and thus my chance to say WHAT A SCENE, WHAT A JOY, WHAT A LOVELY SIGHT, WHEN MY GAME IS THE BIG SENSATIIIIIOOOOOOON

seaborgium posted:

See, I thought chess players got their kicks above the waistline, but apparently I was wrong.

Hostile V posted:

No, that guy was only watching the game, controlling it.

:allears: :perfect:

Notahippie
Feb 4, 2003

Kids, it's not cool to have Shane MacGowan teeth

Leperflesh posted:

This is just one data point but I have a Swedish friend I've known for many many years and when I found out he was like... deeply into Donald Duck, it was kinda odd? He was not otherwise a Comic Book Person or anything. But he explained to me that Donald is reflective of some deeply ingrained aspects of the Swedish psyche and is kind of the national iconic cartoon character. Everyone in Sweden identifies with the storyline of "constantly running into problems" and "flying into a rage" and "having to calm down and just accept your lot in life, because you won't win."


Also "running around without anything other than a shirt on is a perfectly unremarkable state of being"

Kingtheninja
Jul 29, 2004

"You're the best looking guy here."

Leperflesh posted:

This is just one data point but I have a Swedish friend I've known for many many years and when I found out he was like... deeply into Donald Duck, it was kinda odd? He was not otherwise a Comic Book Person or anything. But he explained to me that Donald is reflective of some deeply ingrained aspects of the Swedish psyche and is kind of the national iconic cartoon character. Everyone in Sweden identifies with the storyline of "constantly running into problems" and "flying into a rage" and "having to calm down and just accept your lot in life, because you won't win."

Swedes don't give a poo poo about mickey or goofy or whoever. It's just Donald.

So that's why it makes incredible amounts of sense for me to learn, now in this thread, that the Swedish standard RPG is about ducks who are always drawn in the Disney style.

Thanks for this. I lived in Finland a few years ago and duck tales/Donald duck stuff was all over there as well. I never figured out why it was so popular, but that explains it.

Also I backed dragonbane because gently caress yeah duck folk.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Leperflesh posted:

This is just one data point but I have a Swedish friend I've known for many many years and when I found out he was like... deeply into Donald Duck, it was kinda odd? He was not otherwise a Comic Book Person or anything. But he explained to me that Donald is reflective of some deeply ingrained aspects of the Swedish psyche and is kind of the national iconic cartoon character. Everyone in Sweden identifies with the storyline of "constantly running into problems" and "flying into a rage" and "having to calm down and just accept your lot in life, because you won't win."

Swedes don't give a poo poo about mickey or goofy or whoever. It's just Donald.

So that's why it makes incredible amounts of sense for me to learn, now in this thread, that the Swedish standard RPG is about ducks who are always drawn in the Disney style.

The Donald Duck comic has a higher circulation in finland than the biggest newspapers/tabloids

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

If I recall, a bunch of Disney comics took off wildly in Europe in comparison to the US. The stuff that would eventually be adapted for Duck Tales especially, which featured Donald heavily at first and then for which Scrooge was invented.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


disposablewords posted:

If I recall, a bunch of Disney comics took off wildly in Europe in comparison to the US. The stuff that would eventually be adapted for Duck Tales especially, which featured Donald heavily at first and then for which Scrooge was invented.

Scrooge was created in 1947 by Carl Barks. Ducktales takes a lot of inspiration/direct plot points from Barks. The Ducktales reboot then takes a lot of stuff from Don Rosa (the other big Duck writer).

Also Carl Barks' Duck comics own, go read them. Same with Don Rosa.

Andrast fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Sep 22, 2022

LatwPIAT
Jun 6, 2011

Andrast posted:

The Donald Duck comic has a higher circulation in finland than the biggest newspapers/tabloids

I think the only book more popular by household share in Fenno-Scandinavia than The Life And Times of Scrouge McDuck is the bible.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


LatwPIAT posted:

I think the only book more popular by household share in Fenno-Scandinavia than The Life And Times of Scrouge McDuck is the bible.

It's a great book

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

Cessna posted:

Speaking of Swedish rpgs.

A few years ago there was a Swedish rpg called "Western." I think they did a Kickstarter for an English edition.

I've never been able to find a copy; the Kickstarter ended long ago and I haven't been able to find one for sale. Anyone ever play it, or have a spare copy?

A few of the supplements are available in English on DrivethruRPG and according to a comment by one of the writers they’re planning to put the English version of the core rules there as well.

Warden
Jan 16, 2020

Leperflesh posted:

Everyone in Sweden identifies with the storyline of "constantly running into problems" and "flying into a rage" and "having to calm down and just accept your lot in life, because you won't win."

Swedes don't give a poo poo about mickey or goofy or whoever. It's just Donald.


It's the same except taken into eleven for the Finns. Donald is unlucky, underappreciated and constantly losing, but occasionally he goes berserk and fucks up someone or several someones who should outclass him, but it ultimately does not improve his lot in life, which is basically Finnishness 101.

We adore Donald, and Don Rosa's work is absolutely loved by everyone. Hell, the founder of Nightwish did a concept album on the Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck and got Rosa to appear in a music video and draw the album cover.

Sefer
Sep 2, 2006
Not supposed to be here today

Cessna posted:

Speaking of Swedish rpgs.

A few years ago there was a Swedish rpg called "Western." I think they did a Kickstarter for an English edition.

I've never been able to find a copy; the Kickstarter ended long ago and I haven't been able to find one for sale. Anyone ever play it, or have a spare copy?

It looks like the English version hasn't been completed, but is still being worked on: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1152089861/western-the-roleplaying-game/posts/3485810

It was written by a married couple, and a couple of months after the Kickstarter one of them was diagnosed with cancer. She passed away in April, and between taking care of and then grieving her the remaining author hasn't been able to work on it as much as was originally planned.

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

KHABAHBLOOOM

Sefer posted:

It looks like the English version hasn't been completed, but is still being worked on: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1152089861/western-the-roleplaying-game/posts/3485810

It was written by a married couple, and a couple of months after the Kickstarter one of them was diagnosed with cancer. She passed away in April, and between taking care of and then grieving her the remaining author hasn't been able to work on it as much as was originally planned.

Oh, no.

I'm sorry to hear that.

Eastmabl
Jan 29, 2019

Cessna posted:

Speaking of Swedish rpgs.

A few years ago there was a Swedish rpg called "Western." I think they did a Kickstarter for an English edition.

I've never been able to find a copy; the Kickstarter ended long ago and I haven't been able to find one for sale. Anyone ever play it, or have a spare copy?

I believe the company advertises on Jen ave Robin Talk about Things

piL
Sep 20, 2007
(__|\\\\)
Taco Defender

Andrast posted:

It's a great book

Real tone change in part two though.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Bruceski posted:

Now I'm wondering if official TTR matches have a dealer like casinos.

Above a certain threshold of prize value it's absolutely a best practice in any game tournament to have a croupier touching anything that isn't the players' hands or stockpiles. Nobody ever does this because it's hard enough to get staff to run the event at all.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Midjack posted:

Above a certain threshold of prize value it's absolutely a best practice in any game tournament to have a croupier touching anything that isn't the players' hands or stockpiles. Nobody ever does this because it's hard enough to get staff to run the event at all.

That's about what I figured.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

neaden posted:

His claim is when he was 12 he cheated at Titled Tuesday which is a weekly tournament with some prize steaks when a friend gave him some engine moves, then when he was 16 he cheated in no steaks games to increase his rating. Chess.com is saying there were more instances then that but hasn't specified more.
I didn't realise chess was so meat based

theironjef
Aug 11, 2009

The archmage of unexpected stinks.

Splicer posted:

I didn't realise chess was so meat based

Of course it was, why else would it have been so popular with USSR dudes in the 80s?

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Splicer posted:

I didn't realise chess was so meat based

There's where the term "the steaks have never been higher" came from.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

Sefer posted:

It looks like the English version hasn't been completed, but is still being worked on: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1152089861/western-the-roleplaying-game/posts/3485810

It was written by a married couple, and a couple of months after the Kickstarter one of them was diagnosed with cancer. She passed away in April, and between taking care of and then grieving her the remaining author hasn't been able to work on it as much as was originally planned.

Yeah, it's pretty rough.

SageNytell
Sep 28, 2008

<REDACT> THIS!
Not sure if this belongs here or the FATE thread, but given the subject matter I figured it belongs here.

Does anyone know what happened to the planned FATE Decolonization Toolkit? I remember hearing about it circa 2020, and I understand James Mendez Hodes was project lead, but it appears to have evaporated off the face of the earth. Trying to search for it now just shows mentions in fashy places and I'm good not knowing what they have to screed on the subject.

Am I just missing something and it's quietly still being developed, or did the project get canned?

actually3raccoons
Jun 5, 2013



Toshimo posted:

I don't know why you're on a crusade to put your fingers in your ears, but seriously go read articles by Chris Pikula, Zvi Moshowitz, Rob Dougherty, and Ben Bleiwess on cheating in MtG, especially anybody writing about Neutral Ground. These dudes were there and are extremely candid about all the stuff they saw. And I've been playing since '94 and watched those behaviors propogate out of NY and spread to the rest of the country to the point around '98-99 I'd be seeing a new cheat in one of the local stores almost every week.

The one and only tournament I ever played at NG featured a dude who had a young lady with him wearing a long coat. She'd come over to him, stand just behind him over his right shoulder and open her coat-I can only guess-as a distraction, since she was wearing nothing under there but a two piece bikini. In November.

It was a weird gimmick that he didn't need to use against me because I'm trash at MtG and always have been.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

Yosuke will now die for you.

SageNytell posted:

I understand James Mendez Hodes was project lead,

I just received a completed version of Thousand Arrows which was a project he was author on. So, James Mendez Hodes himself is still active, but I can’t speak to any other projects he’s on.

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



Toshimo posted:

Most of the big name Magic/Pokemon/Yu-Gi-Oh cheaters have migrated to scam games like Flesh & Blood, now, though.

I see this a lot but what makes something a scam game?

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

Cat Face Joe posted:

I see this a lot but what makes something a scam game?

In this case, it's propped up by the company doing backdoor deals selling limited-run product to social media influencers to resell to their subscribers as "investments".

There's other ones that have crypto/NFT bullshit going on, too.

The easy way to tell if a game is a scam is if the primary focus of the advertising is how much the cards are "worth", instead of the actual use of the product, itself.

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

Cat Face Joe posted:

I see this a lot but what makes something a scam game?

We have a thread dedicated to the fishiness of the business side of Flesh and Blood and some of the other games of its ilk.
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3981883&pagenumber=1&perpage=40

Flesh and Blood at least by most accounts is an interesting game, but the publishing model is exploitative and pretty incestuous with the reseller market. Down to having deals with some of the hypemen who would manipulate the aftermarket for MtG.
Some of the same folks on that market are tied to other tcgs that exist solely for speculation. In the other games there's no playerbase, the art and rules aren't designed to be played, it strictly is a commodity to sell unopened boxes like legacy MtG.
Flesh and Blood was heavily cited as scummy due to artificial scarcity, heavily creating FOMO, and market manipulation with weasily and squishy terms about reprints and reruns.

By artifical scarcity I mean beyond the normal rarity stuff in a TCG, more like "We're only printing 20k boxes of this set, but quietly allowing our market manipulator friend to acquire 5k of those, and earmarking 3k for people who make purchase quotas for the previous set and preorder the next.."

Podima
Nov 4, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Chess continues to be spicy: https://twitter.com/MagnusCarlsen/status/1574482694406565888

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord
I dunno, man.

"I lost, therefore he cheated" is what I'm getting out of that statement.

LibrarianCroaker
Mar 30, 2010
Why does he need permission from Niemann to actually say anything specific?

admanb
Jun 18, 2014

LibrarianCroaker posted:

Why does he need permission from Niemann to actually say anything specific?

Maybe Niemann confessed to him that he had cheated more recently than his public claims?

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

LibrarianCroaker posted:

Why does he need permission from Niemann to actually say anything specific?

Libel laws are a bitch in situations like this, that entire statement is carefully worded in a way to not open up Magnus to getting sued.

It's why literally every other Super GM who has stated they have heard rumors and things about Hans' rise haven't said anything.

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theironjef
Aug 11, 2009

The archmage of unexpected stinks.

"I am not willing to call anyone a cheater directly. I hope sincerely that you are. Also the reason I can't say this guy is a cheater is because this guy won't allow me to say he's a cheater, which means that part is his fault too. Thank you and goodnight."

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