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IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

Bust Rodd posted:

According to their wiki the only other show by them I’ve literally even heard of is KLa’K, which I absolutely loved and think is one of the best anime ever. What else in their roster is worth watching? I’ll need another rewatch of Edgerunners before I can consider it to be a truly all-time great, but it’s definitely among the best of the anime I’ve watched in recent years. I think it’s better than Demon Slayer, for example, but I didn’t love it more than jujutsu Kaisen, although it’s possible another season could bump it up in the ranks.

Watch their shorts shows, Space Patrol Luluco and Infernal Cop. You can also watch Panty and Stocking, and Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, which are both Gainax shows, but a lot of them have the same staff as Trigger.

Also, yes, I'm aware of Trigger making Dungeon Meshi, but that wasn't a result of the success of Cyberpunk.

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Buschmaki
Dec 26, 2012

‿︵‿︵‿︵‿Lean Addict︵‿︵‿︵‿

GreenBuckanneer posted:

I haven't beat cyberpunk so I don't really know anything about adam smasher outside of act 1 in the game

He's from New York and likes chain restaurants

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Guren Lagen has been on my to do list for a few years, that’s an easy pick up! Thanks for the rec, I’ll try that and Inferno Cop because the image of a hell-cop is kind of funny to me.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Little Witch Academia is probably Trigger's best full-length original show. The SSSS series are excellent if you want to see a veteran tokusatsu writer taking advantage of their signature animation style.

NutritiousSnack
Jul 12, 2011
It really is cool this show was so good and popular, that it washed away the sins of the broken launch and weird slap fight going on about the game. Never scene side content like this do that before, especially a cartoon.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

IShallRiseAgain posted:

I really hope the success of the anime gets Trigger to make more licensed stuff (as long as they don't take in too much work). This shows that Trigger works really well with a structured and well planned out story.

There was apparently a lot of creative “clashing” between the studios, but Trigger usually got its way (not just wrt Becca).

nightbae smokewheat
Feb 11, 2011

GreenBuckanneer posted:

I did not like Becca.

Sleng Teng
May 3, 2009


Frankly this.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

SniperWoreConverse posted:

In the context of the anime Adam is not a cyberpsycho -- the vibrating eyes motif. Imo because he's himself he doesn't have that problem. Becoming what he is fixed him.

The vibrating eyes is a visual que to the audience that the character is disassociating. When we see it with David and Maine it comes with hallucinations. Really the only difference with Adam is that he doesn't disassociate, and can channel is psychosis.

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime

Kung Food posted:

The vibrating eyes is a visual que to the audience that the character is disassociating. When we see it with David and Maine it comes with hallucinations. Really the only difference with Adam is that he doesn't disassociate, and can channel is psychosis.

i mean if he's not suffering symptoms of a disease i'm pretty sure he doesn't have it

like he may be 99% chrome and also a psycho in the generic hosed up killer meaning, but he's not suffering from cyberpsychosis

Tabletops fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Sep 22, 2022

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
Maybe? I guess for him it is a kinda theoretical argument at best. Might as well debate angels on the head of a pin or whatever -- what Smasher has going on internally is interesting but in the end it's not really gonna matter. He's still going to do ultra violence every chance he gets.

I got a real tabletop vibe from the way the crew's gigs played out, I wonder if they literally ran a campaign to come up with or double check the plot or something

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Darth Walrus posted:

Literally the opposite way around. They wanted to cut her until they saw her concept art.

Nah, they wanted her to look older, Trigger had to fight with them to keep her design the way it was. There's articles and stuff about this.

"CD Projekt Red first got the character design for Rebecca and they were like 'She's a loli. Lolis don't exist in Night City. It doesn't fit the Cyberpunk 2077 aesthetic'.

Ccs fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Sep 22, 2022

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
I'd be interested to find out how that went down but not enough to take the time to try and find out. I kinda got a half lol from the fact that if you google a phrase you get 5000 articles from sites all copy pasting each other's pages

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
The idea of poles and Japanese arguing over a loli character design is more tasty brain candy than reading emails, zoom calls and staff meetings hashing out the particulars

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
Probably which is why the only thing I clicked was close tab

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

Ccs posted:

Nah, they wanted her to look older, Trigger had to fight with them to keep her design the way it was. There's articles and stuff about this.

"CD Projekt Red first got the character design for Rebecca and they were like 'She's a loli. Lolis don't exist in Night City. It doesn't fit the Cyberpunk 2077 aesthetic'.

I thought this was weird, adam smasher and hover tech sized exoskeletons and going to the moon, and extra large impossible dudes and becoming a robot is all on the table

being a short sassy woman of unknown age apparently is to much i guess, not like the world isn't full of short sassy women

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Yeah it’s odd. I assumed Rebecca was just a petite woman and the same age as Lucy but this is anime we’re talking about here so who knows

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!


One of the things they added to the game in the Edgerunners patch is a drink named after David. It's vodka mixed with Nicola.

A Polish liquor and a Japanese soft drink.

I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono

IShallRiseAgain posted:

Watch their shorts shows, Space Patrol Luluco and Infernal Cop. You can also watch Panty and Stocking, and Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, which are both Gainax shows, but a lot of them have the same staff as Trigger.

Also, yes, I'm aware of Trigger making Dungeon Meshi, but that wasn't a result of the success of Cyberpunk.

They always forget Turning Girls, ever overshadowed by Inferno Cop.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Hahaha this fanart

https://mobile.twitter.com/_inaki__/status/1572905746542473216

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I've been digging deep into the game since getting it last weekend. The show and the game both have very different strengths and focuses. BDs do come into play in the show a fair bit but in the game it's a whole feature for the investigations that gets BDs fleshed out in a different way. The game also gets to examine certain elements of Night City in far more detail than the show, especially the horrors that sex workers have to deal with, from what I've played. The show setting its focus entirely on the Edgerunner lifestyle means that its focus is narrower than the game and gets into that side of things more than the broad brush of the game. V is still an Edgerunner but as a player character V is better suited to let us view more of NC than David. David gets more time with his crew and a group dynamic than V's one on ones with individuals across the social spectrum.

They both feel related, but quite different and not really a replacement for each other. A good way to show the various means to explore a setting.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Sep 23, 2022

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

SniperWoreConverse posted:

Maybe? I guess for him it is a kinda theoretical argument at best. Might as well debate angels on the head of a pin or whatever -- what Smasher has going on internally is interesting but in the end it's not really gonna matter. He's still going to do ultra violence every chance he gets.

I got a real tabletop vibe from the way the crew's gigs played out, I wonder if they literally ran a campaign to come up with or double check the plot or something

The big thing is cyber psychos do ultra violence even when they don't want to, and it starts happening to everyone around them. You can see it especially when it gets bad with Maine and he hurts the people he loves. Meanwhile Adam Smasher always inflicts ultra-violence on non-Arasaka targets, and he manages to not murder Arasaka executives despite constantly being around Arasaka executives well enough that they've kept him around for decades.

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007


same energy

St0rmD
Sep 25, 2002

We shoulda just dropped this guy over the Middle East"

Bust Rodd posted:

According to their wiki the only other show by them I’ve literally even heard of is KLa’K, which I absolutely loved and think is one of the best anime ever. What else in their roster is worth watching? I’ll need another rewatch of Edgerunners before I can consider it to be a truly all-time great, but it’s definitely among the best of the anime I’ve watched in recent years. I think it’s better than Demon Slayer, for example, but I didn’t love it more than jujutsu Kaisen, although it’s possible another season could bump it up in the ranks.

The core Studio Trigger team was the group who did Gurren Lagann when they were still working at Gainax, and that's also worth watching.

Edit: I should hit refresh before replying on a tab I left open all day lol

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Rinkles posted in the Cyberpunk 2077 thread with a bunch of interviews about the creative process between CDPR and Trigger during production. The show was originally going to use more music from the game but they were concerned that the songs couldn't properly match what was being shown in each scene, which is why Akira Yamaoka was brought in to compose an original soundtrack for the show.

It's funny then that two of the three standout tracks in the show came from the game and in spite of concerns that the soundtrack wouldn't match, they're perfect for the scenes they're featured in. And the third came from the ED that was done separately.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Sep 23, 2022

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?
Going into this without having played the game.

Man this is some kinda libertarian paradise.

Carteret
Nov 10, 2012


Kaiser Mazoku posted:

Going into this without having played the game.

Man this is some kinda libertarian paradise.

It sure is hell

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Went back to the first episode and it's pretty amazing how it manages to jam pack so much worldbuilding into 24 minutes to tell you just how hosed up things have become while also showing how people endure in such a world. Cyberpunk is what happens when we look at the bottomless chasm of corporate hell future yawning before us and we decide to say gently caress it, put our foot on the gas and ramp off the cliff edge leaving the poor saps standing for back with the bill.

We get a terrible school system, privatized tiers of Healthcare, failing public services, accusations of prostitution (which is very common in NC), class based bullying and debt debt debt debt debt.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Sep 24, 2022

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?
Oh man the English dub is so great. Every other word is some future-slang, ala Batman Beyond. I'm waiting for someone to say "schway".

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Sup, choom, got any Eddies? Looking to get chipped.

Cephas
May 11, 2009

Humanity's real enemy is me!
Hya hya foowah!
i can't believe Hiroyuki Imaishi and Akira Yamaoka worked on a spinoff anime for CD Projekt Red of all companies and it rules

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Kaiser Mazoku posted:

Oh man the English dub is so great. Every other word is some future-slang, ala Batman Beyond. I'm waiting for someone to say "schway".
One of the most tiresome classes of people on the internet are boring, uninteresting idiots who fancy themselves ingenious snarklords who are above it all, just so much better than people who would dare to like a thing. People who think themselves smarter and funnier than the plebs, while being the most mundane, most incel mother fuckers to ever post. I am not saying Kaiser Mazoku is such a person, they just seem like such a person.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Kung Food posted:

One of the most tiresome classes of people on the internet are boring, uninteresting idiots who fancy themselves ingenious snarklords who are above it all, just so much better than people who would dare to like a thing. People who think themselves smarter and funnier than the plebs, while being the most mundane, most incel mother fuckers to ever post. I am not saying Kaiser Mazoku is such a person, they just seem like such a person.

That sounds like genuine enjoyment to me. There's something very fun about dumb future slang, and Batman Beyond is a good show, so it being the point of comparison suggests positive things.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD
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Kung Food fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Oct 6, 2022

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime
what the gently caress is going on stop it


someone call the cops

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Tabletops posted:

what the gently caress is going on stop it


someone call the cops

I think we're in MaxTac territory by this point. Got to admit, being accused of buying alts to... say that future slang is fun?

That's a new one for me.

Comte de Saint-Germain
Mar 26, 2001

Snouk but and snouk ben,
I find the smell of an earthly man,
Be he living, or be he dead,
His heart this night shall kitchen my bread.

Kung Food posted:

You are trying to do a weird poo poo post thing. But get this, everyone sees through you. You are not clever or funny. You are not FYDA at it's prime subversive. Also fun things, spending money on things other than alts. Even better, you can touch grass for free. Also it seems pretty thematic, someone descends on a thread about tech alienation and dehumanization with a cloud of alts while trying to pretend they are above it all. Just A+ point proving.

this is deranged posting

please stop

CJ
Jul 3, 2007

Asbungold
Really enjoyed the show.


Overall i really really liked the first 5 episodes, but from episode 6 it felt a bit rushed and disjointed, like they realised they only had 5 episodes left and needed to hurry through everything to get through the material. Maine's Cyberpsychosis was really well done but it felt like it came out of nowhere, like i'd skipped an episode. The plotline with Arasuka being interested in David felt undercooked as well, the way it ended up had me thinking "Is that it?". Overall felt like it could have down with 2 or 3 more episodes.

The whole ending sequence from David activating the bullet time in the tower was really well done. I got a bit emotional about it but didn't full on cry, i think because while the direction and music was great i didn't fully believe their relationship. At the point where she falls for him in episode 4 i didn't really buy it with the apparent age gap (how old was she meant to be?). If it was after episode 6 i think it would have made more sense after their shared trauma of everything that happened there. Again i think having a couple more episodes would have helped.

The other thing was that i felt it needed a scene towards the end where David was willing to consider downgrading but in the end wasn't able to once Lucy was in danger. I think it would have made the tragedy stronger, compared to him just being a bit of a dumbass who made his own bed due to his stupidity/arrogance.

One other thing, does anyone else feel like looking back the scene where Lucy rides David's gurney was weirdly out of place and doesn't match the rest of her character? I thought it was a cool scene in itself but looking back at it it's kinda weird.

CJ
Jul 3, 2007

Asbungold
Oh also the soundtrack was great. How much of it was from the game and how much was original? I think the show really benefited from having the ability to use the game's assets. Not only the huge soundtrack, but also a lot of the backgrounds seemed like they were draw overs of places in the game and just that the world was already fleshed out with all the designs and concept art. I feel like having all that work already done must have really helped because it felt like they could do so much more than usual.

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cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011





There is not much of an age gap.

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