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Ccs
Feb 25, 2011



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Cyberpunk: Edgerunners is an anime series and spin-off of Cyberpunk 2077 created by Studio Trigger for Netflix. It runs for 10 episodes and premiered on September 13, 2022.

Currently boasting a 100% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, it has been described by various publications as "superb", "absolutely incredible" and "stunning".

Edgerunners story follows David, a young kid who drops out of Arasaka Academy and becomes entwined in the world of Cyberpunks, essentially low level gang runners in the city, through a connection he forms with a Netrunner (hacker) Lucy. She introduces him to her crew, and his ability to withstand the installation of a stolen augment makes him invaluable to the team.

Anyway I just finished watching it and yeah, it is pretty darn good! It doesn't quite live up to Netflix's previous game-connected animated series, Arcane, but after episode 3 I thought it might be the best thing Imaishi has ever directed.

Its also full of an interesting mix of eclectic music choices. Theres something really magical about western music paired with anime. A lot of the most interesting anime I've seen had western opening songs, and this is no exception. Both the opening and endings are great. The series is heavy on the violence and nudity, with the opening highlighting the violence and the ending highlighting the nudity. The whole setting has the whiff of an exploitation film about it, which is probably why the nudity went down better than series that try to be coy about it.

Its worth checking out, for my money the best anime Netflix has released for a long time.

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Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice
Time to watch the show but never come close to completing it.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Pro tip - watch the English dub. It's very good, and means you avoid Netflix's horrible subtitles (which are reportedly even worse than usual for this show).

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Show is set in America with American characters speaking proper American, choom. The English dub is very good and the way they integrated the UI into the visuals is inspired.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Darth Walrus posted:

Pro tip - watch the English dub. It's very good, and means you avoid Netflix's horrible subtitles (which are reportedly even worse than usual for this show).

I saw a tweet about how the English VA ad libbed a Stand Rush ORA ORA ORA as his line for a fight scene and they kept it for the dub; that's pretty awesome.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
The shithead bully going full on Kenshiro by way of Bruce Lee got a good laugh out of me and the English VA was up to it.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Rebecca’s Japanese va is very entertaining though

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying

Darth Walrus posted:

Pro tip - watch the English dub. It's very good, and means you avoid Netflix's horrible subtitles (which are reportedly even worse than usual for this show).
I thought this at first too but then noticed you get different "english" subtitles depending on whether you're listening to English or Japanese audio.

The english audio english subs are awful and outright wrong half the time, almost as though someone ran the dub audio through speech to text. The Japanese audio english subs on the other hand seemed okay.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I think that might be exactly what they did. Just run it through an auto-generated captioning program.

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime
The subs for the japanese version are completely different. Especially the phone call dialogue in the in universe transcription.

I actually assumed it was just the English script. That’s how different it was. The japanese VA was fine, great even. But the VA script was extremely… boring? It had basically zero character. I wish it had any of the (in universe) charm? that was in the subs.

Anyway just finished it earlier and it was overall really good. The pacing got a little compact at the end, the last couple episodes kinda felt like a movie in that context. Overall the animation and art and music were all great.

I think my main complaint is that they took a little too much inspiration from the game wrt the vehicle physics and the complete lack of people on the streets considering it’s a megacity of like 50 million people or whatever

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Just an endless parade of NPC citizens slumped over with their auto-jerkoff implants like that one chubby guy.

I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono

Tabletops posted:

The subs for the japanese version are completely different. Especially the phone call dialogue in the in universe transcription.

I actually assumed it was just the English script. That’s how different it was. The japanese VA was fine, great even. But the VA script was extremely… boring? It had basically zero character. I wish it had any of the (in universe) charm? that was in the subs.

Anyway just finished it earlier and it was overall really good. The pacing got a little compact at the end, the last couple episodes kinda felt like a movie in that context. Overall the animation and art and music were all great.

I think my main complaint is that they took a little too much inspiration from the game wrt the vehicle physics and the complete lack of people on the streets considering it’s a megacity of like 50 million people or whatever

To be fair, the vehicle physics...that's very much a Trigger touch.

I haven't touched the JP dub, but the english dub is excellent.

cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011





The English dub has the same voice actors from the game if that character appears as a cameo so I thought that was a nice touch.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I'm four episodes in now and I like the vibe. I think however that Lucy is the weakest part of the show. Not a slight against the actor, Emi Lo is great and Aoi Yuki never turns in a bad performance. She's just kind of bland in that way that a stock standard love interest isn't allowed to have wild quirks and is treated more like a prize than as a character. The rest of the edgerunners aren't necessarily deep characters but at least they're fun and get creative animation and some sick character deaigns that compliment their attitudes.

Lucy was fun in her first episode when it looked like she was a bit more deranged with her thrill seeking but after that she just falls into variations of being quiet and aloof or "blunt because it makes the male love interest blush and protest simulation #34849555" that everyone has seen before. She's not like other girls, you know? That kind of pablum where a character design and a framing to allow the audience surrogate to live vicariously through the male protagonist stand in for actually being a compelling character in any way.

You know why I love the movie Neighbors? It's not a great comedy but it does one thing I find so refreshing. Rose Byrne is just as insane as Seth Rogan and that's great because she gets to be wild and fun too rather than just being a manufactured hot hot topic waifu prize where the hot-headed guy needs to grow up so they can be together. It's old hat, it's boring, let the crazies be crazy for each other and enjoy it.

Lucy feels more like that prize and it's coming at the expense of her being particularly fun to watch. At least so far. Maybe that changes in later episodes.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Sep 15, 2022

cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011





Lucy gets more fleshed out in coming episodes.

Carteret
Nov 10, 2012


Becca's asymmetric design is so loving neat, I wanna rip off that small-frame-massive-fuckoff-arms for a character template in the next cyberpunk tabletop game I play

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



4 eps in and loving it.

Rebecca continues the proud tradition of horrible gremlin girls in Triggers work

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



I Am Fowl posted:

To be fair, the vehicle physics...that's very much a Trigger touch.

I haven't touched the JP dub, but the english dub is excellent.

The vehicles definitely give me Redline/Dead Leaves vibes and that can only be good

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Made it to episode 7. Rebecca is awesome.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Spuckuk posted:

4 eps in and loving it.

Rebecca continues the proud tradition of horrible gremlin girls in Triggers work

Is she voiced by their usual VA in the Japanese track? She definitely seems like she was created to be a Mayumi Shintani character.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Going through this show has got me thinking about how you would differentiate Cyberpunk from sister genres like Neo Noir or other stories that share similar elements but lack the Punk part. Like I'd never consider Blade Runner a cyberpunk story but something like Ghost in the Shell straddles the line between Cyberpunk, Noir and Police Procedural depending on what version you're experiencing. Would something like Robocop be considered Cyberpunk even though the punk side is missing and it isn't really noir or a procedural?

Julias
Jun 24, 2012

Strum in a harmonizing quartet
I want to cause a revolution

What can I do? My savage
nature is beyond wild

Darth Walrus posted:

Is she voiced by their usual VA in the Japanese track? She definitely seems like she was created to be a Mayumi Shintani character.

Nah, Tomoyo Kurosawa

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Spuckuk posted:

4 eps in and loving it.

Rebecca continues the proud tradition of horrible gremlin girls in Triggers work

I’m thinking of Nonon from kill la kill, who are the other ones?

And yeah she’s my favourite character

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Ccs posted:

I’m thinking of Nonon from kill la kill, who are the other ones?

And yeah she’s my favourite character

Sucy from LWA, Marie from BNA, Lucia from Promare, Midori from Luluco. They're pretty common in Trigger's original anime.

I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono
Oh yeah, Becca is absolutely fantastic. Love her design and her everything.

Jerkface
May 21, 2001

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE DEAD, MOTHERFUCKER?

Fallen Rib
you know a characters gonna pop off when they got those lil bean eyebrows and a delinquent voice

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014


this anime is so good...but... so brutal... :negative:

I didnt know Trigger had it in them

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Just finished the series. Goddamn those last few episodes amped up.

Overall a great series. I stand by what I said about Lucy, though. She's a bit too much of a conventional love interest to be really interesting when you've got a ride-or-die breakout like Rebecca.

I'd love to see Trigger get another round at this, like an anthology series or something.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Sep 16, 2022

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014


is Falco a character from the game? he feels like it

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

He wasn't before, but he was incorporated into the Edgerunners tie-in DLC.

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime

I Am Fowl posted:

To be fair, the vehicle physics...that's very much a Trigger touch.

I haven't touched the JP dub, but the english dub is excellent.

this is the scene i was thinking of in particular lol



most of the previous scenes definitely looked 100% like trigger stuff but this one looked like it was out of the game haha

MagicBoots
Mar 29, 2010

How about we pump the atmosphere full of methane?
You put me on Cargo handling optimization?! I am the premier defense specialist in the entirety of the UN!
Don't you dare pull my funding!
You can't cut back on funding!
You will regret this!

Tabletops posted:

this is the scene i was thinking of in particular lol



most of the previous scenes definitely looked 100% like trigger stuff but this one looked like it was out of the game haha

There's a comment by one of the characters in ep 6 wondering why the NCPD keep appearing out of thin air :laugh:.

MagicBoots fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Sep 16, 2022

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

I just met Rebecca and she rules.

cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011





Personally I really identify with Lucy which I'm not sure what that says about me.

Daedalus1134
Sep 14, 2005

They see me rollin'


cheesetriangles posted:

Personally I really identify with Lucy which I'm not sure what that says about me.

It means you have the right avatar.

cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011





Finally, finished the series after watching 2 episodes a day (3 today) and I was pretty much openly weeping for half of episode 10. Having enjoyed a tv show at all, let alone an anime this much, in a long time.

Really hope we get another season in some form.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

cheesetriangles posted:

Finally, finished the series after watching 2 episodes a day (3 today) and I was pretty much openly weeping for half of episode 10. Having enjoyed a tv show at all, let alone an anime this much, in a long time.

Really hope we get another season in some form.

If you need another fix Trigger also did a full music video for the ED:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnnbP7pCIvQ

Just another legend on their way out in Night City. I think this song might be up there with Real Folk Blues for one of my all time favorite credits themes. It's just perfectly in line with the melancholy and tragedy behind cyberpunk stories.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Sep 16, 2022

Sleng Teng
May 3, 2009

I think where this show succeeded the most for me, other than the very much appreciated hyper-everything ova feel, is probably one of its main commercial goals: it makes me want to try out the game.

Qmass
Jun 3, 2003

the anime succeeds much better than the game in making the trashy cyberpunk thing cool

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Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Qmass posted:

the anime succeeds much better than the game in making the trashy cyberpunk thing cool

Agreed, but I still feel the game has its merits. The advantage of telling stories within an established setting is that you can tailor them to fit your preferred medium, and anime or video games are almost ideally suited for the task. The game faltered and CDPR is still working their way out of a hobble into a confident stride. The anime nailed it for the most part.

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