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Ches Neckbeard posted:He was also fired for winning to much He had a 24-25 record. I can certainly buy that Ross wanted him to tank but he had three full years and never made the playoffs, started his last season 1-7 and constantly undermined the 1st round QB his team drafted. His performance and inability to manage his offensive staff worth a drat were perfectly good reasons to fire him. He’s a great defensive coach but that doesn’t make him a great head coach.
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This guy's Matt Rhule impersonation is incredible https://twitter.com/TheFanRookie/status/1573378058173685760?s=20&t=_sumXCHsb1vwHOGkI_bhWQ If you didn't see it, Dan Orlovsky figured out you can predict the panthers based on where CMC is lined up. https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1573070086499405828?s=20&t=VtW0KCIIAucX5QQ-PC81Hw
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FizFashizzle posted:If you didn't see it, Dan Orlovsky figured out you can predict the panthers based on where CMC is lined up. Holy poo poo! 
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Sep 25, 2022 04:28
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It'll all be worth it for that Week 18 game where CMC lines up parallel with Baker and takes the handoff for a huge TD run
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Sep 25, 2022 04:33
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It is insane to me how this happens in tyool 2022. Lost season panthers edition.
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Sep 25, 2022 05:14
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Thats on the same level as "go" vs "go-go"
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Sep 25, 2022 05:14
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FizFashizzle posted:This guy's Matt Rhule impersonation is incredible Wasn't there someone on Twitter who immediately found plays that prove this is wrong? Orlovsky is kinda hit or miss with his analysis.
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Sep 25, 2022 05:38
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Tbh the panthers woes have been dumb special teams poo poo and massive defensive issues this year. Their offense isn't setting the world alight but I'd argue they're not the main issue.
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Sep 25, 2022 05:41
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Woozie66 posted:Wasn't there someone on Twitter who immediately found plays that prove this is wrong? Orlovsky is kinda hit or miss with his analysis. Some guy immediately tried to but he was shown to be wrong. Was there someone else
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Its kinda been a hallmark of Rhules tenure on both sides of the ball. They install some basic package and its just so basic a week later the rest of the world had figured it out and there's no expansion or change to it. His coaching is just a mile wide and an inch deep. I can see why he's able to turn around just atrocious college programs but he's just not an NFL level coach. I cant believe we're into year 3 of this poo poo. At least fitterer has tried to extend the real pieces and build some capital. If the panthers don't gently caress up the next hire were going to be 2 years away from competitive once they fire this dickhead.
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Amy Pole Her posted:Some guy immediately tried to but he was shown to be wrong. Was there someone else Maybe not? The guy I'm thinking of is a beat reporter for the Panthers. I didn't dig into the replies to see if anyone proved him wrong.
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Sep 25, 2022 07:12
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Woozie66 posted:Maybe not? The guy I'm thinking of is a beat reporter for the Panthers. I didn't dig into the replies to see if anyone proved him wrong. Our beat reporters kind of suck lots.
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BlindSite posted:Our beat reporters kind of suck lots. Yeah the Deshaun Watson thing really sucked every ounce of credibility out of every beat writer the panthers have, at least the ones who kept tricking poor Fiz into believing their stories
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The death knell, huh. "I have total confidence in my coach" is the reaper's tune.
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Maybe he should hire a secondary coach
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The only reason to fire a coach during the season is if you think you're getting a head start on the next year's hiring process and don't want to do that while having a coach under contract but I don't think most owners care about that these days.
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mcmagic posted:The only reason to fire a coach during the season is if you think you're getting a head start on the next year's hiring process and don't want to do that while having a coach under contract but I don't think most owners care about that these days. Lot of whispers that they’re risking a player revolt, especially on the defensive side.
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FizFashizzle posted:Lot of whispers that they’re risking a player revolt, especially on the defensive side. What does that even mean? That they will lose games because players won't play good? Isn't that already happening?
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mcmagic posted:What does that even mean? That they will lose games because players won't play good? Isn't that already happening? Or burns and chinn demand trades. Chinn to Buffalo makes more sense than I care to think about.
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FizFashizzle posted:Or burns and chinn demand trades. If you can get a first round pick for him because they are desperate, it's probably a good idea for the panthers to do it.
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mcmagic posted:The only reason to fire a coach during the season is if you think you're getting a head start on the next year's hiring process and don't want to do that while having a coach under contract but I don't think most owners care about that these days. There are plenty of other reasons: - You don’t want the dude loving up your player development for another 3/4s of the season - You don’t want your good players to completely check out on the organization - You want to evaluate the roster and the coach who is desperately trying to save his job won’t play certain guys because he doesn’t think they give him the best chance to win now - You don’t want him to fall backwards into enough meaningless wins to make the decision more difficult The last one happened with the Falcons and they ended up getting tricked into keeping Dan Quinn only to fire him a quarter of the way through the next season. LSU did it with Les Miles in college as well. On the flip side, the Dolphins firing Brian Flores after a 1-7 start would have saved the team a whole lot of bad publicity vs waiting until he rattled off 8 straight wins against bad competition to do what they planned to do anyway.
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I don't really know how you measure any of that. I think if you're going to make bad decisions on keeping or not keeping players or not firing a bad coach because of garbage time wins, that is independent of the timing of when you make the coaching change.
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Have you never been in a lovely work environment before? Getting rid of the bad leader everybody hates is an easy decision if it improves locker room morale.
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vs Broncos at Chiefs Likely 1-4 at best by the bye. 0-5 probably gets him canned; can't go into the easiest part of the schedule (the immediate weeks post-bye) with the team already checked out. Certain some genius will argue that you actually can because "it shows growth" and it's a big stretch not to give him more time, but the writing is on the wall
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I don't think it will actually happen because Mark Davis is a huge cheapskate and he already had to eat Gruden's contract. But I will be very happy to watch McDaniels light yet another organization on fire.
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mcmagic posted:I don't really know how you measure any of that. I think if you're going to make bad decisions on keeping or not keeping players or not firing a bad coach because of garbage time wins, that is independent of the timing of when you make the coaching change. To give you full context Phil snows defense is apparently a laughing stock around the nfl and recognised as a rediculous attempt to play college ball in the nfl. Hes completely stocked the defensive end and linebacker spot with undersized players and routinely drops our star defensive end into coverage while asking our star safety to play four positions. Burns has apparently been telling former players like peppers and Smith he wants out of carolina and wants to play for a real coach. Jeremy Chinn apparently told Matt Rhule he just wants to play safety where he'd be an All Pro and not be getting moved around every play. There's rumours they told Brown they wanted him to be a leaner disruptor so he dropped weight and then showed up to camp and got told forget that you need to occupy as well so he dropped weight and got quicker for no reason. Phil Snow is apparently very controlling and micro managing too. This could all just be twitter rumour mill bullshit but there's just soooo very much of it floating around its hard to ignore.
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He's prob not getting fired without a full front office cleanout but if they are actually in the Sean Payton sweepstakes then both Staley and Telesco's seats are at least a little warm right now. Turning the chargers into New Orleans West could be fun anyways
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Chucktesla posted:He's prob not getting fired without a full front office cleanout but if they are actually in the Sean Payton sweepstakes then both Staley and Telesco's seats are at least a little warm right now. Turning the chargers into New Orleans West could be fun anyways Isn’t the main issue with the Chargers just injuries at a bunch of key positions?
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Ehud posted:Isn’t the main issue with the Chargers just injuries at a bunch of key positions? Yeah. Doesn't matter how many all pro players you have if literally all of them get hurt.
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If Jones is out for the season Belichick is gonna go like 3-14 with Hoyer and Patricia.
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Hackett has so many red flags you have to bump him up the list Benne.
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Kirios posted:Hackett has so many red flags you have to bump him up the list Benne.  Grip it and rip it posted:Denver's head coach needs to be fired
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*whispers the tiniest little noise you can imagine, barely audible at all really* Kyle Shanahan
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Docjowles posted:lol the Broncos are 2-1 because Jimmy G stepped out the back of the end zone 
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