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Hyrax Attack!: Jan 13, 2009; We demand to be taken seriously

https://twitter.com/defenceu/status/1574107021988839426?s=46&t=O7qdIoMyEy94r4znybuU7A

Assuming it�s legit wonder if his unit snuck close to a runway or if Russia positioned a forward airbase very poorly.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 06:24

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 08:58

ekuNNN: Nov 27, 2004; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

someone in irkutsk fragged their draft commander. there's no gore in the video but someone is killed:
:nws:

https://twitter.com/Andrew__Roth/status/1574272320071426049

# ? Sep 26, 2022 07:13

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

I think we're gonna be seeing a lot of that going forward.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 07:17

Wasabi the J: Jan 23, 2008; MOM WAS RIGHT

IDK how to get just the subtweet on this one but drat that quote.

https://twitter.com/Andrew__Roth/status/1574281018357448705?t=b6a4Y8xih77QR_n-hohqLA&s=09

# ? Sep 26, 2022 07:34

Hannibal Rex: Feb 13, 2010

psydude posted:

I think we're gonna be seeing a lot of that going forward.

Only property damage, but this guy certainly also made his point.

https://twitter.com/WarInUkraineYet/status/1574307678331043846?t=VjWfmnWUrkbhcxjumV0c7A&s=19

# ? Sep 26, 2022 09:35

Hannibal Rex: Feb 13, 2010

School shooting in Russia.

That's not how you're supposed to adopt American culture in protest.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 09:49

Saukkis: May 16, 2003; Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
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Charlz Guybon posted:

How does this cause anything but chaos?
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1574207027135422464

Putin has learned his lesson from Kharkiv. He's sending the cannon fodder to the front lines as hindrance for the Ukr army, so his troops with some experience and training can withdraw orderly.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 10:25

A.o.D.: Jan 15, 2006

Wasabi the J posted:

IDK how to get just the subtweet on this one but drat that quote.

https://twitter.com/Andrew__Roth/status/1574281018357448705?t=b6a4Y8xih77QR_n-hohqLA&s=09

Hannibal Rex posted:

Only property damage, but this guy certainly also made his point.

https://twitter.com/WarInUkraineYet/status/1574307678331043846?t=VjWfmnWUrkbhcxjumV0c7A&s=19

Finally, some actual heroism in Russia.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 11:28

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Hyrax Attack! posted:

https://twitter.com/defenceu/status/1574107021988839426?s=46&t=O7qdIoMyEy94r4znybuU7A

Assuming it�s legit wonder if his unit snuck close to a runway or if Russia positioned a forward airbase very poorly.

Some say he grew an inch for every plane shot down.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 11:45

Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

give that man akimbo manpads

# ? Sep 26, 2022 11:49

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

Hyrax Attack! posted:

https://twitter.com/defenceu/status/1574107021988839426?s=46&t=O7qdIoMyEy94r4znybuU7A

Assuming it�s legit wonder if his unit snuck close to a runway or if Russia positioned a forward airbase very poorly.

The Ghost takes many forms and hosts; none can know them all, except by the good works it leaves in its wake.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 13:02

Comrade Blyatlov: Aug 4, 2007; should have picked four fingers

We are all the Ghost of Kyiv

# ? Sep 26, 2022 13:21

mlmp08: Jul 11, 2004; Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration; Nap Ghost

Transcripts from 23SEP afternoon briefing is published. So this will be a couple days out of date. As usual, intro then excerpts as the mood takes me. Focus for this one is mostly defense industrial base, both in support of Ukraine as well as NATO. It's pretty vague, as the SDO in this case doesn't want to share operational details, but also doesn't want to get real specific and nitty-gritty on supply chain issues and fixes, so roughly the back half of the interview is a question asked and either no answer or a "we're looking at manufacture and logistics chains" as the response.

https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/3169716/senior-defense-official-holds-a-background-briefing/

-Meeting next week is government, not private industry
-Other weapons integration is ongoing, similar to what was seen with HARMs, but SDO declines to name them
-No real comment on main battle tanks.
-Topics range from immeidate needs to "a year or two" down the road

quote:

SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: Thanks you. Since the secretary's announcement in Ramstein, we've been working hard to pull together this special meeting of the National Armaments Directors under the auspices of the Ukraine Defense Contract Group -- Contact Group. This will be a day long event in Brussels and it will take place next Wednesday, September 28th. It will be led by Dr. Bill LaPlante, who's my boss and supported by senior officials in OSD policy, the Joint Staff and EUCOM. We've been very pleased with the international response. Over 40 countries will be in attendance and we expect a very productive discussion. As we've emphasized in the last two USAI packages, and as Secretary Austin emphasized in Ramstein is important for us to be thinking about our long-term support to Ukraine.

Even as we work to meet urgent battlefield needs today. The meeting in Brussels next week will focus on three key topics. Sharing information on current production efforts and identifying opportunities for countries to work together, to address key production constraints in order to accelerate and expand production. This will include a call for production support for things like gun barrels, ball bearings, steel casings. We will also discuss what capabilities Ukraine is likely to need in the future like long-range fires and air defense and how to posture the broad industrial base of the contact group to meet those needs.

Second, we will discuss opportunities to develop interchangeable systems as we work to bridge the capability gaps between current Ukrainian systems and future systems based on western standards, and third, we'll be working on a long-term sustainment strategy. These discussions will feed into the next ministerial level contact group meeting in October. With that, I'm happy to take some questions.

..

Q: Thanks for taking my call, taking my question rather. Wanted to ask, since the U.S. has integrated HARM missiles on Ukraine's MIGS, is any part of this conversation going to be about integrating other western munitions armed to Ukrainian aircraft or other platforms?

SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: Yes. At this point I really don't think I'd be comfortable of getting ahead of where the discussions will go next week.

Q: Then can I ask you, is there, you know, after hearing, kind of, the broad outline of what topics are going to come up are there any goals that you can tell us, you know, what does the U.S. want to see come out of this conference?

SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: Yes. As I kind of, highlighted, what we're really looking for is, you know, discussions we're going to focus on ramping production of key capabilities, resolving supply chain issues, increasing inoperability and getting the sustainment folks discussions. I'm very excited that what we're -- the RSVPs we've gotten are -- we're going to have the, for the first time under the contact group rubrics, we're going to have the acquisition, the defense industrial base specialists from all these countries, with partners in the room together.

And I think what -- even if we get -- even just sharing best practices, lessons learned. I'm actually looking forward to discussion and we've got really positive feedback as we've been doing the preliminary work. So my hope is that going out of the session, there'll be much more willingness -- ability for us to work together across countries to try to -- solve some of these challenges we're all facing.

...

Q: Hi, thanks for doing this. A couple questions, at the meeting will it be national armament directors and industry representatives or is it just government representatives? And then, can you give an example of, you know, hypothetically what an interchangeable system would be and, you know, maybe where you see the most need for interchangeable systems right now?

SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: Yes. So it's going to be just government officials. It will not be anybody from industry as part of the discussions. You know, I think that in some of the solutions, some of the systems that have been delivered to Ukraine right now, we can sort of use the word jerry-rig or, you know MacGyver type approaches where we've gotten together and found a creative solution where we can put together maybe a system that we had and somebody else was able to find a creative way to launch it. So I think that what they'll be some mixed exploration during discussions next week on how we can more institutionalize that or -- or develop other solutions similar.

Q: The more -- more examples like how you were able to mount the HARM missiles onto MIGS?

SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: Yes. I wasn't involved in the HARMs so I'm going to defer to others on that one, but there's been other cases where we've been able to find creative ways to launch potentially U.S. weapon systems that may have been in inventories of foreign partners, through ways that haven't been done before.

STAFF: OK. Let's go to Tom Bowman, NPR.

Q: You talked about ramping up production for key capabilities. What are those key capabilities?

SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: Well, I think all the capabilities we've been delivering to Ukraine plus others going forward, there will be -- I anticipate there will be a discussion outlining where we think we want to go and that will be part of the discussion next week.

Q: Well can you at least raise at least one or two or three capabilities?

SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: Well I said long-range fires is one of the examples. Right, I said earlier -- in my opening remarks. So that's an example.

Q: Now, as you know, the Ukrainians keep pushing for tanks. It looks like sending Abrams is a non-starter. They are getting T-55s from Poland, Slovenia. Do you anticipate getting more Soviet-era tanks?

SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: So that's -- I'll defer to PA to get back with you on that one. That's a little bit outside my lane.

Q: Thanks. I'd love to hear two things. How you define near and long-term and very much in your wheelhouse, you have to juggle a lot here at the Pentagon just with the U.S. demand. You�re going to go after 40 countries with their parliaments and their contracts authorities. Can you talk about what willingness the United States has to change how it buys weapons with, you know, 39 other partners and it seems like you're -- it's going to be a complicated exercise to actually get new weapons in the hands of someone?

SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: Yes. No. I think one of the real focuses in why it's good to get the national armaments directors in the room together, is just part of where as we're just ramping up our own production, we've identified certain shortfalls or challenges. Right? I mean steel casings is one, microelectronics and during bilateral discussions with many of our allies and partners, they're experiencing similar things. So, you know, part of this maybe identifying approaches where we can, sort of, identify potential sources that we didn't know were out there to help current production. And then -- then going forward, I envision it would be times where we're looking to see whether or not to do joint biz or whatnot. A lot of countries are expressing interest in buying a lot of weapon systems and the more we can coordinate our approach going forward, I think it will leave us in a place where we potentially won't be competing against each other.

Q: And the near and long-term in your --in your mind?

SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: So I would think near-term is, you know, what we're doing today and in the months going forward. Long-term, you know, we're talking, you know, a year or two maybe but that's in my mindset here.

Q: Hi. Thanks for doing this. Just wanted to ask what some of the concerns that you want to address at, what are the top concerns that you're going to try to address in this -- this upcoming meeting? That U.S. industrial base concerns, European industrial -- what specifically are the concerns that you're trying to find solutions too?

SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: Yes. It's going to be, you know, what we're looking for is how can we strengthen the defense industrial base and it's broader than the United States. It's actually broader than Europe too, we'll have participants from the Indo-Pacific also. So I think its worth highlighting and, you know, I anticipate they'll be some sharing of example of what lessons learned, what have you been doing domestically, what our partners have been doing to ramp up production and sharing some best practices. We issued the RFI also, you know, to get -- welcome industries thoughts on how we could be some solutions that we may not have been thinking about.

Some of our partners have done that. So I think part of this is going to be sharing best practices, lessons learned but then again we're also going to go into the discussions on, you know, going forward, how we can potentially work together and sustaining the fight. You know, that's a new area for us to talk about and that's going to be an important element to discussions also.

Q: But when you say strengthening the defense industrial base, what do you mean by that? What are the specific weak points? Can you give us any examples?

SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: Well, yes, sure. So I, you know, one of the examples we've had, you know, just for our sources, you know, it's -- you know, we've come across the as part of our deep dive analysis, you know, parts obsolescence issues. Microelectronic shortages, ball bearings, steel casings, these are, you know, these are things in the lower tier supplier base where it's impeding our ability to produce and deliver in a timely manner. And we're working through our resources to solve those problems, but there may be solutions available offshore that we can work together. And we could have situations where our partners are experiencing the same challenges and maybe we can find creative solutions together.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 14:54

Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

no idea how credible but lol if true

https://twitter.com/MrKovalenko/status/1574200167959494657?s=20&t=HOqorYT8Y8fDTwnm1fZWlQ

# ? Sep 26, 2022 15:25

Marshal Prolapse: Jun 23, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Alan Smithee posted:

no idea how credible but lol if true

https://twitter.com/MrKovalenko/status/1574200167959494657?s=20&t=HOqorYT8Y8fDTwnm1fZWlQ

Nice seeing the Iranian state eating poo poo at home and aboard.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 15:36

GD_American: Jul 21, 2004; LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!

mlmp08 posted:

Transcripts from 23SEP afternoon briefing is published. So this will be a couple days out of date. As usual, intro then excerpts as the mood takes me.

Thank you a ton for posting these and commenting on them. I get a lot of value out of both

# ? Sep 26, 2022 15:56

pmchem: Jan 22, 2010

Alan Smithee posted:

no idea how credible but lol if true

seems insane to do that training in HIMARS range. fake or just idiots? like, just drive another hour away??

# ? Sep 26, 2022 16:02

Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

pmchem posted:

seems insane to do that training in HIMARS range. fake or just idiots? like, just drive another hour away??

hahahaha how is counter artillery real like walk away from the HIMARS

# ? Sep 26, 2022 16:14

PookBear: Nov 1, 2008

HolHorsejob posted:

Looking at the mobilization and wondering: have any of you ever had to fight alongside someone who had this little training? What's it like having to work with someone that gets 2 weeks of training and is dumped off a truck and told "lol good luck"

You could train casualty replacements in two weeks. Four experienced soldiers could train 30 people and do low intensity guerilla operations in two weeks. You can't form a division out of nowhere and do the sort of combined arms this war requires.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 16:19

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; by Fluffdaddy
(and can't post for 5 days!)

Alan Smithee posted:

hahahaha how is counter artillery real like walk away from the HIMARS

No you walk away from drone-dropped munitions, HIMARS you have to jog.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 16:24

Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

PookBear posted:

You could train casualty replacements in two weeks. Four experienced soldiers could train 30 people and do low intensity guerilla operations in two weeks. You can't form a division out of nowhere and do the sort of combined arms this war requires.

what if they lock arms and march lockstep at the enemy

# ? Sep 26, 2022 16:30

A.o.D.: Jan 15, 2006

Alan Smithee posted:

what if they lock arms and march lockstep at the enemy

It's not like either side has water cooled machine guns that were designed to deal with such a scenario.

:v:

# ? Sep 26, 2022 16:35

Armacham: Mar 3, 2007; Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?

Hyrax Attack! posted:

https://twitter.com/defenceu/status/1574107021988839426?s=46&t=O7qdIoMyEy94r4znybuU7A

Assuming it’s legit wonder if his unit snuck close to a runway or if Russia positioned a forward airbase very poorly.

6 golden manpadbabies my goon sire

# ? Sep 26, 2022 16:50

Nick Soapdish: Apr 27, 2008

Alan Smithee posted:

what if they lock arms and march lockstep at the enemy

https://twitter.com/BravoKilo6464/status/1574235743010045965?t=vVA3z7ZPUqQmBQ721vZgYA&s=19

Edit:
https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1574430067421286401?t=UHvZr1ZiijgHNFqn6K2C5A&s=19

Welcome to the front, comrade Snowden

Nick Soapdish fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Sep 26, 2022

# ? Sep 26, 2022 17:03

Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Nick Soapdish posted:

https://twitter.com/BravoKilo6464/status/1574235743010045965?t=vVA3z7ZPUqQmBQ721vZgYA&s=19

Edit:
https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1574430067421286401?t=UHvZr1ZiijgHNFqn6K2C5A&s=19

Welcome to the front, comrade Snowden

# ? Sep 26, 2022 17:19

ASAPI: Apr 20, 2007; I invented the line.

Nick Soapdish posted:

https://twitter.com/BravoKilo6464/status/1574235743010045965?t=vVA3z7ZPUqQmBQ721vZgYA&s=19

Everytime I see a hot take like this I laugh my rear end off. Russia really thinks the US sells off their surplus arms the same way the Russian army does. They don't seem to understand that we actually have those giant stockpiles of weapons, they don't just exist on paper.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 17:54

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Nick Soapdish posted:

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1574430067421286401?t=UHvZr1ZiijgHNFqn6K2C5A&s=19

Welcome to the front, comrade Snowden

https://twitter.com/r0wdy_/status/1574438250445299719?s=20&t=6VQVfF3FjRxe6DAAtZ2B0A

# ? Sep 26, 2022 18:02

A.o.D.: Jan 15, 2006

I tried to have a nuanced view on Snowden for years. It was plain that the US intelligence community was up to illegal poo poo and needed to be called out, but his continued attention seeking and just who he ended up seeking asylum with made me very skeptical of his motives. Now? gently caress that guy. Enjoy the front, dipshit.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 18:05

Lum_: Jun 5, 2006

A.o.D. posted:

I tried to have a nuanced view on Snowden for years. It was plain that the US intelligence community was up to illegal poo poo and needed to be called out, but his continued attention seeking and just who he ended up seeking asylum with made me very skeptical of his motives. Now? gently caress that guy. Enjoy the front, dipshit.

can't find my post to requote myself but we just had this discussion last week and while, yes, snowden has been a clueless famewhore the past decade, three things to remember:

1) as you said, the intel community was/is indeed up to some sleazy poo poo that needed whistleblowing badly
2) snowden didn't choose to defect to russia like something out of "falcon and the snowman", he trusted julian assange (lol) to handle his exit out of hong kong after going public, and assange managed to get him stranded in a moscow airport terminal
3) the us has made it very, very clear that if snowden returns he will get a fair trial (with absolutely no media coverage) and then thrown into a supermax prison for the rest of his life

# ? Sep 26, 2022 18:10

A.o.D.: Jan 15, 2006

Lum_ posted:

can't find my post to requote myself but we just had this discussion last week and while, yes, snowden has been a clueless famewhore the past decade, three things to remember:

1) as you said, the intel community was/is indeed up to some sleazy poo poo that needed whistleblowing badly
2) snowden didn't choose to defect to russia like something out of "falcon and the snowman", he trusted julian assange (lol) to handle his exit out of hong kong after going public, and assange managed to get him stranded in a moscow airport terminal
3) the us has made it very, very clear that if snowden returns he will get a fair trial (with absolutely no media coverage) and then thrown into a supermax prison for the rest of his life

I never had a good view of Assange. As soon as I knew who he was I figured him for a probable pPutin operative. At best he was a fame seeking narcissist with an axe to grind against the US. I automatically suspect the worst of anything associated with WikiLeaks. Also, didn't Snowden leak some stuff that wasn't illegal activities? At this point I'm convinced that he earned his permanent stay in Colorado or Leavenworth.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 18:20

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Marshal Prolapse posted:

anime pillow Kim Philby

# ? Sep 26, 2022 18:21

Herstory Begins Now: Aug 5, 2003; SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

incredible that someone could meet Gruenwald and Assange and think 'yes these are people i should stake everything on.'

# ? Sep 26, 2022 18:25

Hieronymous Alloy: Jan 30, 2009; Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!; Morbid Hound

Lum_ posted:

can't find my post to requote myself but we just had this discussion last week and while, yes, snowden has been a clueless famewhore the past decade, three things to remember:

1) as you said, the intel community was/is indeed up to some sleazy poo poo that needed whistleblowing badly
2) snowden didn't choose to defect to russia like something out of "falcon and the snowman", he trusted julian assange (lol) to handle his exit out of hong kong after going public, and assange managed to get him stranded in a moscow airport terminal
3) the us has made it very, very clear that if snowden returns he will get a fair trial (with absolutely no media coverage) and then thrown into a supermax prison for the rest of his life

This is basically where I am too, mostly because the American prison system is torture and nothing he's done deserves a lifetime of torture.

He's a weird dude and has made bad decisions but so have a lot of other people.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 18:25

CBJSprague24: Dec 5, 2010; another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Wasabi the J posted:

IDK how to get just the subtweet on this one but drat that quote.

https://twitter.com/Andrew__Roth/status/1574281018357448705?t=b6a4Y8xih77QR_n-hohqLA&s=09

Does that count as a kill of an enemy combatant for Mr. 3 Shots?

I hope he held the gun sideways when he did it.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 19:31

M_Gargantua: Oct 16, 2006; STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES; Exciting Lemon

Nick Soapdish posted:

https://twitter.com/BravoKilo6464/status/1574235743010045965?t=vVA3z7ZPUqQmBQ721vZgYA&s=19

Can't remember if this was the original tweet : "Russia is about to find out why the US doesn't have universal healthcare."

# ? Sep 26, 2022 20:13

Alchenar: Apr 9, 2008

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

This is basically where I am too, mostly because the American prison system is torture and nothing he's done deserves a lifetime of torture.

He's a weird dude and has made bad decisions but so have a lot of other people.

Hmmm, dude got quite a few people killed.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 20:13

Murgos: Oct 21, 2010

Charlz Guybon posted:

How does this cause anything but chaos?
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1574207027135422464

Front line accounts are full of the, "New guys die a lot so no one wants to get to know them." thing. Pretty much everything I've read says that pushing FNGs into a unit on the line kills most of the replacements and destroys the units effectiveness. And this is with fully trained people and a functioning military. I can't imagine pushing someone who was a college student or farm hand two days ago into a combat unit that's already failing to maintain cohesion and little logistical support and being like, 'good luck!'

This just seems like a very bad idea.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 20:14

bird food bathtub: Aug 9, 2003; College Slice

Murgos posted:

Front line accounts are full of the, "New guys die a lot so no one wants to get to know them." thing. Pretty much everything I've read says that pushing FNGs into a unit on the line kills most of the replacements and destroys the units effectiveness. And this is with fully trained people and a functioning military. I can't imagine pushing someone who was a college student or farm hand two days ago into a combat unit that's already failing to maintain cohesion and little logistical support and being like, 'good luck!'

This just seems like a very bad idea.

Bad for who? The decision makers aren't getting domed on the battlefield, seems to be fair to middling for them.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 20:23

BIG HEADLINE: Jun 13, 2006; "Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

There are rumors that there's a disproportionate number of non-ethnic Russians being called up, so on top of everything else, consider this conscription a form of ethnic cleansing.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 20:27

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Tiny Timbs: Sep 6, 2008

Murgos posted:

I can't imagine pushing someone who was a college student or farm hand two days ago into a combat unit that's already failing to maintain cohesion and little logistical support and being like, 'good luck!'

This just seems like a very bad idea.

This is why I've been really skeptical of the extremely common take that conscription will likely be successful at helping Putin shore up the front lines. Their presence is a drag on performance, not a benefit.

# ? Sep 26, 2022 20:27

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