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lol
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 02:34 |
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loving lmao
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 02:38 |
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Tomn posted:It might slow them down, perhaps? Even if the units aren't really worth much, the Ukrainians still have to slow down some and plan out how to destroy them, since a competent military can't just assume they'll roll over with no resistance whatsoever(that's how you get Hostomel) and a Mosin bullet can kill you just as dead if you're not paying attention. And once you're actually attacking a unit, all the usual friction of going on the offensive goes into play and disorganizes the Ukrainians a little more even if the Russians barely kill a single man. If you're already working under the assumption that the front is so empty that you can't stop the Ukrainians no matter what you do, slowing them down in the short term while possibly organizing something a little more capable of solid resistance in the medium term might seem worth it, if you're OK with tossing conscript lives into a woodchipper. Whether the Russians are at this point actually capable of organizing more solid resistance might be a question mark, but that might be the theory at least. Simply having more dudes can be useful to an extent, but relying on troops with poor training and morale can create significant vulnerabilities. Stalingrad is a classic example - as the battle went on, more and more German troops and equipment were funneled into the city, while the flanks were guarded by less motivated/equipped Italian, Hungarian, and Romanian troops. The Soviets ended up attacking these flanks, breaking through and surrounding the German forces within the city, forcing their surrender. That's not to say these quasi-Volkssturm units won't have any impact - their mere presence will force Ukrainian offensives to slow down. But it's robbing Peter to pay Paul - because these units are going to cost just as much in food, ammunition, and fuel as any other unit on the line, but they're going to be much, much less capable and reliable, and will fall apart at the worst possible time.
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 03:06 |
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 03:17 |
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Sounds like WWI https://mobile.twitter.com/MalcontentmentT/status/1574277002424913920
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 03:22 |
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Acebuckeye13 posted:. But it's robbing Peter to pay Paul - because these units are going to cost just as much in food, ammunition, and fuel as any other unit on the line, I see the flaw in your analysis, assuming Russia intends to keep these ersatz soldiers in supply.
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 03:22 |
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Charlz Guybon posted:Sounds like WWI If true then even worse than I expected. I was thinking fed into a defense for minimal efficacy but, human wave on a modern battlefield is just, lol wat? Edit: Can your battlefield tactical plan be used as evidence of warcrimes against your own people?
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 03:25 |
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 03:25 |
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Make this the forum stylesheet.
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 03:33 |
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Murgos posted:Edit: Can your battlefield tactical plan be used as evidence of warcrimes against your own people? We're gonna find out! Unless those shoddy russian windows get him too
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 03:34 |
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 03:42 |
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Charlz Guybon posted:Sounds like WWI jesus christ
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 04:43 |
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I looked at the Telegram and quickly regretted it.
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 04:49 |
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Murgos posted:If true then even worse than I expected. I was thinking fed into a defense for minimal efficacy but, human wave on a modern battlefield is just, lol wat? There's pics coming out on Telegram and Reddit from the area that are basically Highway of Death, Ukraine Edition. I guess the main question is at what point does this trigger a revolution. I mean, 1905 and 1917 both began thanks to massive military incompetence in wartime. (1941 would have as well if Nazi Germany weren't a bunch of genocidal maniacs) Lum_ fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Sep 27, 2022 |
# ? Sep 27, 2022 04:55 |
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They've lost as many men in 7 months as the US lost in 10 years in Vietnam. It's crazy.
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 05:06 |
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GD_American posted:I looked at the Telegram and quickly regretted it. Those dudes didn’t look like they even had body armor. One guy looked like he had sneakers on. Just an appallingly pointless waste of human life.
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 05:28 |
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Grip it and rip it posted:Are you asking if the US government has ever acknowledged that spies killed overseas were a direct result of Snowden's actions? Like what are you looking for here? It would be something of a major coincidence if shortly after a massive cache of methods and intelligence was obtained by Russia that our spies in Asia and Europe started dropping like flies. The US government has no problem with telling the world that a lot of spies have been getting killed in recent years, so your point that maybe they don't tell anyone seems entirely unsubstantiated.
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 05:29 |
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Dance Officer posted:The US government has no problem with telling the world that a lot of spies have been getting killed in recent years, so your point that maybe they don't tell anyone seems entirely unsubstantiated. Oh do you have a list of the names of the spies that were killed?
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 05:45 |
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Lum_ posted:There's pics coming out on Telegram and Reddit from the area that are basically Highway of Death, Ukraine Edition. have you seen something of that scale or do you just mean in the sense of 'bombed out vehicles on the side of the road'
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 05:52 |
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Grip it and rip it posted:Oh do you have a list of the names of the spies that were killed? What kind of ridiculous argument is this? No government is going to name names, thats the fuckin point of espionage.
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 06:18 |
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Grip it and rip it posted:Oh do you have a list of the names of the spies that were killed? John Bigboote John Parker John O'Connor John Gomez John Whorfin John Yaya John Small Berries
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 06:27 |
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Snowden's dumps were almost all related to SIGINT methods and wouldn't have really contained anything pertaining to human sources. The end result is that it wound up denying access to previous avenues of information gathering, including several in Europe targeted specifically at Russia. Manning's absolutely did contain unredacted human sources, and there's always been rumors of it having to resulted in deaths. I haven't really looked into it, because finding anyone who's interested in analyzing that episode in an objective fashion is impossible.
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 07:14 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:have you seen something of that scale or do you just mean in the sense of 'bombed out vehicles on the side of the road' In the sense of “extremely NMS photos of virtually defenseless people post-slaughter”
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 08:06 |
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Charlz Guybon posted:Sounds like WWI How are those conscripts already at the front? The draft is like 4 days old or so??
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 08:18 |
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Torrannor posted:How are those conscripts already at the front? The draft is like 4 days old or so?? If you look back at the last page or 2, there's been reports of conscripts being gathered up and sent straight to the front. They were also stepping up the pace of forcibly conscripting LNR/DNR folks in the weeks leading up to the Russian mobilization, so they may have hailed from closer afield.
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 08:21 |
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i remain quite skeptical of that specific malcontent tweet, I've seen nothing floating around beyond the same baseline level of carnage that comes out of this war, though I'm also not going to look that much for some godawful footage for obvious reasons. until they post whatever footage they claim to have, who knows tho re the mobilization: it started the day before it was announced and it's already been 6-7 days. the recently mobilized people on the front is moderately attested to, tho it depends on how much credibility you give to Ukraine MoD and ISW and there's russian wives reporting husbands were already shipped off supporting it, too. Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Sep 27, 2022 |
# ? Sep 27, 2022 08:24 |
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There have been conscripts on the frontline since day one of the war, they've just come from the DNR and LNR.
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 08:28 |
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Much more light-hearted, I'm rewatching The Wire and the bit in the first episode of S2 where Sergei responds to being called Russian with "No, Ukraine, Kyiv is Ukraine" and Ziggy going "well, same difference right" hits a lot different in 2022 than it presumably did in 2003.
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 09:18 |
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loving Ziggy
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 10:02 |
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Murgos posted:
Not if you don’t have one! *insert guy tapping his head meme*
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 10:26 |
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People are fleeing from Russian occupied Ukrainian territory into Ukraine? And they're being let through? It makes sense I guess but I'm rather surprised at how permeable these frontlines can be.
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 10:41 |
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Fragrag posted:People are fleeing from Russian occupied Ukrainian territory into Ukraine? And they're being let through? It makes sense I guess but I'm rather surprised at how permeable these frontlines can be. Read the second embedded tweet, though.
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 10:44 |
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Wager there's a few SVR/GRU amongst that lot.
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 11:45 |
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IPCRESS posted:Wager there's a few SVR/GRU amongst that lot. Yup, hence the hesitance in a lot of the Eastern European countries to let them through.
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 11:57 |
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IPCRESS posted:Wager there's a few SVR/GRU amongst that lot. They’re easy enough to weed out, just look for a bunch of sequential passport numbers.
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 12:00 |
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gay picnic defence posted:They’re easy enough to weed out, just look for a bunch of sequential passport numbers. And flying 5 hours for a single day trip to visit a cathedral
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# ? Sep 27, 2022 12:15 |
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https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1574741612093181952?t=TMRe6WeIlPYzJ8YAllp3NA&s=19
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...f08ef7e8107b31e OH GEE HOW UNEXPECTED. quote:Swedish seismologists registered explosions near the Nord Stream pipelines – reports
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