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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Failed Imagineer posted:

Yeah it's looking like some real historical potentiality right now

Time for me to put on Bloomberg, I regret I wasn't watching when Lehman shat it

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a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
I was studying economics at the time of the last crash and a friend of mine was on an internship with Lehman. She was told to go home and when she got to the home (which Lehman had put her up in) the landlords were changing the locks.

You'll be pleased to know she landed on her feet and went on to become a futures trader in the grain market, before retiring at the age of 30 to spend more time with her art collection...

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


a pipe smoking dog posted:

I was studying economics at the time of the last crash and a friend of mine was on an internship with Lehman. She was told to go home and when she got to the home (which Lehman had put her up in) the landlords were changing the locks.

You'll be pleased to know she landed on her feet and went on to become a futures trader in the grain market, before retiring at the age of 30 to spend more time with her art collection...

Can you get her to lend me a hundred grand?

Already seen something funny on Bloomberg, UK credit insurance is now twice as expensive as Ireland, despite the UK having a better credit rating lol

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
King Charles please your first action as king, the sacking of the government, they've made the money too sad. My house price it go down but my mortgage it go up.

Ewan
Sep 29, 2008

Ewan is tired of his reputation as a serious Simon. I'm more of a jokester than you people think. My real name isn't even Ewan, that was a joke it's actually MARTIN! LOL fooled you again, it really is Ewan! Look at that monkey with a big nose, Ewan is so random! XD
I wouldn't normally quote the FT, but enjoyed this one:

https://www.ft.com/content/756e81d1-b2a6-4580-9054-206386353c4e posted:

The BoE said its action would be “strictly time limited” and came after market participants said there was a “proper poo poo show” happening in government bond markets.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
I bought my first flat in 1993. :stare: Even then, prices were rocketing up in local markets despite what that graph says; someone doing the same job as me joined the company a year later, and a flat was already out of reach on that salary. They didn't just have to rent, but share. I was phenomenonally lucky in hindsight.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




A Buttery Pastry posted:

Anyway, being anti-natalist makes sense from a selfish perspective if you don't expect to live long enough for those kids to pay for your old age.

Anti-natalism is way too happy, optimistic, and anthropocentric. Read some Ligotti, and learn about how the existence of any life, anywhere in the universe, is a blight upon its serenity.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

forkboy84 posted:

Can you get her to lend me a hundred grand?

Already seen something funny on Bloomberg, UK credit insurance is now twice as expensive as Ireland, despite the UK having a better credit rating lol

Unfortunately she stopped talking to me surely after she became incredibly rich, which was a bit rude.

Also I hadn't even considered the inevitable credit rating drop. Seriously as someone who works in an insurance related industry I am having trouble concentrating on things today.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

lol

https://twitter.com/i/status/1575087390297038848

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Ewan posted:

I wouldn't normally quote the FT, but enjoyed this one:

You should, it's a good paper. The opinion pages are rubbish but they all are. The actual reporting has to be reliable because of who their audience is: they don't need to manufacture consent.

I don't read it every day but I do try to remember that I found a site that has a PDF of it each morning

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
That McRib is coming back baby, it's good again

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro



She looks so loving proud of that wet fart of a gag. Why does being in politics mean you aren't physically capable of making good jokes!

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

forkboy84 posted:

You should, it's a good paper. The opinion pages are rubbish but they all are. The actual reporting has to be reliable because of who their audience is: they don't need to manufacture consent.

I don't read it every day but I do try to remember that I found a site that has a PDF of it each morning

reddit UKPolitics posts articles from it with an 'archived' form (ie not paywalled).

Unrelated:

I suspect the Bank of England will have to do a dramatic intervention using interest rates shortly.
I've been through this before back in the olden days of 30 year ago.

I'm saying this so if it happens, people, PLEASE do not take any drastic immediate knee-jerk actions.

In 1992 when UK left the Exchange Rate Mechanism, interest rates rocketed from 9.875% to 12% in one fell swoop (and were planned to go up to 15% but DIDN'T).
Friends with large mortgages were in absolute despair and one or two close to suicide.

My point though is that the interest rates came back down to 10% again WITHIN 1.5 days

(I'm well aware that usual interest rates back in those days (70s / 80s) were considerably higher than what we consider 'normal' these days.)

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Sep 28, 2022

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
There is something very funny about the Tories literally causing a financial crisis after falsely blaming Gordon Brown for the last one.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

forkboy84 posted:

She looks so loving proud of that wet fart of a gag. Why does being in politics mean you aren't physically capable of making good jokes!

I haven't watched it but melty friends are sharing it on FB and saying what a good egg she is.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

Jaeluni Asjil posted:


I suspect the Bank of England will have to do a dramatic intervention using interest rates shortly.
I've been through this before back in the olden days of 30 year ago.

I'm saying this so if it happens, people, PLEASE do not take any drastic immediate knee-jerk actions.

In 1992 when UK left the Exchange Rate Mechanism, interest rates rocketed from 9.875% to 12% in one fell swoop (and were planned to go up to 15% but DIDN'T).
Friends with large mortgages were in absolute despair and one or two close to suicide.

My point though is that the interest rates came back down to 10% again WITHIN 1.5 days

(I'm well aware that usual interest rates back in those days (70s / 80s) were considerably higher than what we consider 'normal' these days.)

Good post

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Angela Rayner can just vaguely mention being a socialist, play up her accent a bit, and then be the perfect Starmerite free from criticism. It's very tory. That whole ablative armor strategy.

She can just come out with whatever dumb poo poo about being tough on crime and criticising Corbyn for antisemitism but it doesn't matter, she has the accent she must be one of us.

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

Nothingtoseehere posted:

There is some possible here, in that cheap finance is what allows the bubble to inflate in the first place. If interest rates stay high over the next 5-10 years, the bubble won't reinflate because the loans to sustain such a high valuation are too expensive to be profitable.

The problem with that though is that the prices would need to utterly crater in order for that to be an assist to the people marginalised by the bubble. First time buyers generally need good loans or help from their family to afford a house. A crashing economy is going to make it extraordinarily difficult to save in order to take advantage of those rates (especially if you rent), and when the rates are sky high, will it be possible to get a loan affordable to a first time buyer? For a scenario like this to work in favour of first time buyers, houses would need to drop to the point where first time buyers can reasonably put down 50%+ deposits in a truly hosed economy. I just don’t see that, not without a massive increase in supply, which this government clearly has no intent to deliver.

Halisnacks
Jul 18, 2009

a pipe smoking dog posted:

There is something very funny about the Tories literally causing a financial crisis after falsely blaming Gordon Brown for the last one.

While falsely blaming Starmer for causing this one.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Jaeluni Asjil posted:

reddit UKPolitics posts articles from it with an 'archived' form (ie not paywalled).

Unrelated:

I suspect the Bank of England will have to do a dramatic intervention using interest rates shortly.
I've been through this before back in the olden days of 30 year ago.

I'm saying this so if it happens, people, PLEASE do not take any drastic immediate knee-jerk actions.

In 1992 when UK left the Exchange Rate Mechanism, interest rates rocketed from 9.875% to 12% in one fell swoop (and were planned to go up to 15% but DIDN'T).
Friends with large mortgages were in absolute despair and one or two close to suicide.

My point though is that the interest rates came back down to 10% again WITHIN 1.5 days

(I'm well aware that usual interest rates back in those days (70s / 80s) were considerably higher than what we consider 'normal' these days.)

Yes, this is good advice, though I also want to say I just heard someone on Bloomberg TV make a crack that the bankers at Barclays haven't jumped into the Thames YET. Which they don't do in normal times.

But yes, don't panic because things look bad on one day.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Zalakwe posted:

Imagine singing this at karaoke. Someone find that bloke (and it will be a bloke) the number for a decent therapist.
DRAMA: FAILURE ⏺️⏺️

LIMBIC SYSTEM: I hurt myself today...

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Brendan Rodgers posted:

Anti-natalism is way too happy, optimistic, and anthropocentric. Read some Ligotti, and learn about how the existence of any life, anywhere in the universe, is a blight upon its serenity.

Or read some Buddhism and embrace the fact that life is suffering and there is no escape*. Not even in death does the suffering end.

*There is an escape hatch but it leads to oblivion.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
this medium post that was linked from the jack monroe twitter thread is pretty loving damning and gives a lot of receipts on a lot more bullshit than I had been aware of

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


I'm looking at properties way down at the cheap end of the market, so I'm assuming that they wouldn't be affected by a hugely significant amount in the event of a crash (interest rates maybe, but even then there's only so much they can go up by, especially compared to more expensive properties).

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

The state of these bellends. “Operation Rolling Thunder”. gently caress me

https://twitter.com/benrileysmith/status/1575108612321468417

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


We're midway through the process of buying a larger house and I have no loving idea what to do tbh, the current mortgage is going to be transferred over then remortgaged in.. I want to say May? But the buyers of our current place have gone quiet and I'm watching the interest rates skyrocket and gently caress me, maybe we should just pull out

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

smellmycheese posted:

The state of these bellends. “Operation Rolling Thunder”. gently caress me

https://twitter.com/benrileysmith/status/1575108612321468417

Very smart and big-brain to name it after an indiscriminate campaign of mass death that achieved none of the strategic goals and ultimately led to that same invading force leaving with its tail between its legs.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
poo poo YOUR PANTS WITH ROLLING THUNDER/
WHEN YOU SEE THE POUND FAIL

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I'm glad she's been enjoying the gimmick https://twitter.com/Liztruss/status/1575098230626721793

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

Tesseraction posted:

Very smart and big-brain to name it after an indiscriminate campaign of mass death that achieved none of the strategic goals and ultimately led to that same invading force leaving with its tail between its legs.

I'm going to tell myself that this was someone who thought the plan was terrible's idea of a quiet joke.

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

Lord of the Llamas posted:

I'm going to tell myself that this was someone who thought the plan was terrible's idea of a quiet joke.

Same person who named Operation Yellowhammer? ('a little bit of bread and no cheese')

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

Failed Imagineer posted:

poo poo YOUR PANTS WITH ROLLING THUNDER/
WHEN YOU SEE THE POUND FAIL

lol Leviathan was literally playing while reading this

CRASH POUND
BRITAIN CLOWNED


no make that

MARKETS BAIL
TORIES FAIL

lilljonas fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Sep 28, 2022

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Operation oh gently caress no oh no no no

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive

Failed Imagineer posted:

poo poo YOUR PANTS WITH ROLLING THUNDER/
WHEN YOU SEE THE POUND FAIL

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Lmao

lilljonas posted:

lol Leviathan was literally playing while reading this

CRASH POUND
BRITAIN CLOWNED


no make that

MARKETS BAIL
TORIES FAIL

Both good!

Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Sep 28, 2022

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
https://twitter.com/edconwaysky/status/1575128310740389889?s=46&t=W5-1snIcvntt6Zc7Ymp6Uw

bleak, terrified lol

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Strong and stable.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Me reading every new tweet.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Bobby Deluxe posted:

DRAMA: FAILURE ⏺️⏺️

LIMBIC SYSTEM: I hurt myself today...

post/av combo approved

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smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

This has to be fake



Edit - apparently genuine but he deleted in shame

smellmycheese fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Sep 28, 2022

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