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BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002

Rick posted:

I don't necessarily love LIFX lights but they run pretty independently of a hub so that's an option at least. With no network of course you do need to be within range to actively control them (well, if IFTT and the lights are both behaving correctly sometimes you can use that for out of house control) but they'll run a schedule and such on their own. Also they are Apple Home compatible so if you ever feel like going that direction with an Apple TV as a hub in the future that is open to you.

If anything the big problem I have with them is they are too independent. They just are not very responsive to direct control and sometimes they completely ignore control or lose connection to wifi and the only solution is to either wait until they feel like responding again or to reset them which is a very long process. Well also they're expensive; at least Hue goes on sale sometimes (and if you just want regular white lights Hue can be pretty affordable), LIFX is always full price.

Hue on sale is still more than LIFX, but they’re a lot better bulbs too. I agree though that LIFX isn’t terrible and probably the best 2nd tier bulb. Stay away from GE Cync or Feit or random Amazon brands.

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SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

other people posted:

I would like to buy a lightbulb I can control with my phone and set schedules for. It needs to be dimmable and it would be cool if it does different colors. I don't have any automation setup in my house and I don't have any desire to get started with that.

Afaict if I buy a Philips Hue bulb then by itself I can control it with bluetooth and the ability to program schedules is somewhat limited. Is that correct? If I want more control I have to buy and set up some Hue Bridge thing?

Or it looks like if I buy a Tplink Tapo bulb it should connect to wifi and do what I want without anything extra. And they are waaaay cheaper.

Can some one point me in the right direction? Thank you.

Hue Bluetooth bulbs have a distinct marking on the box, if it hasn't it requires a bridge. Also there is a maximum number of bulbs you can pair with your phone. All in all, the bridge is the better option if you have to handle more than say four to six bulbs OR if you want to handle them remotely(or do automation).

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Neat, my Eufy lock/camera/fingerprint kickstarter thing just shipped! a few months behind schedule but hope it's neat.

Now I'll have to get a new door lever that matches its aesthetic.

xgalaxy
Jan 27, 2004
i write code
I think my Logitech Circle doorbell is bricked 😫
Tried everything to get it to reconnect to Home but nothing.

xgalaxy
Jan 27, 2004
i write code
In more happy news.
HomeAssistant support for Lutron RA3 is coming soon!!!
See: https://github.com/gurumitts/pylutron-caseta/pull/101

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Annoyingly the eufy smart lock doesn’t come with the round deadbolt face like all other locks do so I have to request it from their support.

I guess I can chisel out the area to fit the rectangular one and it would be more secure, but I don’t really wanna.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

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some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

I need help. I have a house full of Lightify stuff... outdoor lights, under cabinet lights, flood lights, etc.

Over the past year, my Lightify hub has flaked the gently caress out. I can manually control the lights individually and as groups, but it will not run a schedule at all... I had it previously set up for daytime / nighttime scenes.

I want to replace the Lightify hub with something that will control all the lights. I know I need Zigbee compatible, and it seemed like the Philips Hue Bridge would do what I needed... and I bought one and set it up. It's on the network and I have the Hue app and the Hue Essentials app (that looks a lot like the old Lightify app), but I cannot get either app to recognize even one bulb.

What is my best course of action?

Boner Wad
Nov 16, 2003
If I was going to put in light and fan switches in a bunch of rooms and I don’t already have switches, what should I look into? I have Home Assistant with Zigbee and ZWave. I think Caseta would work but I think someone recommended a different system.

dalstrs
Mar 11, 2004

At least this way my kill will have some use
Dinosaur Gum
I'm going to piggyback on the light questions and see if anyone knows of a brand that will meet what I am looking for.

I am trying to replace my new bedroom ceiling fan's light and fan switch. It has separate lines for the light switch and the fan switch (2 gang box red & black + neutral), though I don't mind a single switch replacement.

The part that is giving me trouble finding something to match is the light is super bright when turned on by default, so I am looking for something that can change the default brightness to something lower (I don't think you can do this with Caseta which was the first one I was looking at). My fan doesn't have a pull, so the fan switch would also need to have speed control.

I would prefer something that has switches that look and act similar to a normal rocker switch. The last nice to have would be a physical remote, an app would work but is not preferred.

toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003


dalstrs posted:

I'm going to piggyback on the light questions and see if anyone knows of a brand that will meet what I am looking for.

I am trying to replace my new bedroom ceiling fan's light and fan switch. It has separate lines for the light switch and the fan switch (2 gang box red & black + neutral), though I don't mind a single switch replacement.

The part that is giving me trouble finding something to match is the light is super bright when turned on by default, so I am looking for something that can change the default brightness to something lower (I don't think you can do this with Caseta which was the first one I was looking at). My fan doesn't have a pull, so the fan switch would also need to have speed control.

I would prefer something that has switches that look and act similar to a normal rocker switch. The last nice to have would be a physical remote, an app would work but is not preferred.

It's not a completely "normal" rocker switch, but i have been SUPER happy with the Lutron Maestro Fan/Light Control switch.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lutron-...MR-WH/203489683

You would have to put the control unit up behind the fan, but i was super happy with my 2 installs, and would(will) install again when i replace my living room fan next weekend.

The light and fan switch both have "last setting" memory.

High/Full is available as a double press of either switch.

dalstrs
Mar 11, 2004

At least this way my kill will have some use
Dinosaur Gum

toplitzin posted:

It's not a completely "normal" rocker switch, but i have been SUPER happy with the Lutron Maestro Fan/Light Control switch.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lutron-...MR-WH/203489683

You would have to put the control unit up behind the fan, but i was super happy with my 2 installs, and would(will) install again when i replace my living room fan next weekend.

The light and fan switch both have "last setting" memory.

High/Full is available as a double press of either switch.

Are those smart? I'm hoping to tie into Home Assistant for some control if there is not a remote.

Scruff McGruff
Feb 13, 2007

Jesus, kid, you're almost a detective. All you need now is a gun, a gut, and three ex-wives.
Anyone have any experience moving to a fresh install of Home Assistant while using an S2 enabled Z-Wave adapter? Something about my install of HA just seems borked for dashboards, custom cards refuse to load no matter what I do, so I was going to just nuke it and start fresh but I know the documentation for Z-Wave JS mentions preserving a token/key for the adapter and I can't seem to find it (either in the interface or that I saved when I set it up). I was planning to just remove the existing Z-Wave devices I have from the network and then re-join them once I set up the new HA instance, and it sounds like this is for if you didn't unpair the z-wave stuff beforehand but I wanted to double check.

"HA Documentation posted:

For new installations, network security keys will be automatically generated for you. If this Z-Wave stick has already been paired with secure devices, you need to enter the previously used network key as the S0 network key. S2 security keys will be automatically generated for you. Make sure that you keep a backup of these keys in a safe place in case you need to move your Z-Wave stick to another device.

toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003


dalstrs posted:

Are those smart? I'm hoping to tie into Home Assistant for some control if there is not a remote.

Caseta instead of Maestro. My bad.

DaveSauce
Feb 15, 2004

Oh, how awkward.
Caseta ties in to HA just fine. Only have 1 device on it, but it works great.

Been planning on decking the whole house out with it (at least, where it makes sense), but RA3 is supposed to a lot better and is soon to get HA support.

And either way it's a couple grand and several weekends worth of work so lmao if I'm going to get that done any time soon.

dalstrs
Mar 11, 2004

At least this way my kill will have some use
Dinosaur Gum

toplitzin posted:

Caseta instead of Maestro. My bad.

As far as I can tell, the Caseta will always default to maximum brightness when the switch is toggled on. Also, I don't think the Casetas have switches that look close to a normal switch.

I'm surprised how hard this has been to find. Every solution seems to meet 3/4 of what I am looking for.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Caseta’s are completely, stupidly reliable. I’ve never had a single switch not respond to HomeKit commands or automations. I compromised a bit of aesthetics for reliability and I’m super happy with mine. My wallet, however, is not.

GigaFuzz
Aug 10, 2009

dalstrs posted:

As far as I can tell, the Caseta will always default to maximum brightness when the switch is toggled on. Also, I don't think the Casetas have switches that look close to a normal switch.

I'm surprised how hard this has been to find. Every solution seems to meet 3/4 of what I am looking for.

I don't know too much about Lutron stuff, but I did see this youtube video the other day which talks about their new Diva Smart Dimmer, which I believe has a brightness limit and looks more like a normal switch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHxIi79tRG0

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

GigaFuzz posted:

I don't know too much about Lutron stuff, but I did see this youtube video the other day which talks about their new Diva Smart Dimmer, which I believe has a brightness limit and looks more like a normal switch.

I guess I'm a bit confused by the last few posts because all of my dimmer switches, smart or not, turn on the the last set brightness when you toggle them on physically or via zwave. I've not run across a switch where this is not the default behavior.

dalstrs
Mar 11, 2004

At least this way my kill will have some use
Dinosaur Gum

GigaFuzz posted:

I don't know too much about Lutron stuff, but I did see this youtube video the other day which talks about their new Diva Smart Dimmer, which I believe has a brightness limit and looks more like a normal switch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHxIi79tRG0

I hadn't seen the smart version of this switch. I can probably make the caseta fan switch work with this light switch.

Motronic posted:

I guess I'm a bit confused by the last few posts because all of my dimmer switches, smart or not, turn on the the last set brightness when you toggle them on physically or via zwave. I've not run across a switch where this is not the default behavior.

I don't have any smart switches yet, but after reading reviews, this did not seem to be the case. Either way, being able to change the default means I don't have to worry about being blinded by turning on the light at night.

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Don't forget Hitler's contributions to medicine.

dalstrs posted:

As far as I can tell, the Caseta will always default to maximum brightness when the switch is toggled on.

The trick is the dimmer buttons work even when the light is off. Press the down button to turn the lights on at their minimum level, the up button will adjust them up from dim.

dalstrs
Mar 11, 2004

At least this way my kill will have some use
Dinosaur Gum

Three Olives posted:

The trick is the dimmer buttons work even when the light is off. Press the down button to turn the lights on at their minimum level, the up button will adjust them up from dim.

My wife wouldn't remember to do that but it looks like it doesn't matter anyways. I bought the Diva smart switch and installed it. Turns out the light that was supposed to be dimmable is not actually dimmable. So I have to decide if we want to live with the too bright light or retrofit new LEDs in the fan I just installed.

Douchebag
Oct 21, 2005

What are the recommended DIY security systems here? I don’t want a monthly fee with a 5 year contract because I have to pay off $2K of equipment at 0%. My wife wants that but I think we’d be better served with some blink outdoor cameras and a camera/floodlight setup over my garage.

House is a new construction so I’ve been approached by CPI and ADT and CPI seems to have better equipment (and they did all the low voltage wiring in the house) but I don’t need that expensive of a setup.

I would like cameras to cover the exterior, a doorbell camera and that’s really it? We both work from home so I don’t really see the need for something elaborate enough to have a $40-60 monthly payment.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

I just use Ring. They're easy to set up and the app is OK enough. I think I'm on one of their legacy $100/year plans, unlimited cameras. I've got the Doorbell Pro (one of the old ones), 2 outdoor battery cams with solar panel, outdoor flood light cam, and an indoor stickup cam. There's a Ring homebridge plugin too if you want to get them into HomeKit. It's pretty neat having a live window pop up in the corner of my Apple TV when someone rings my doorbell. Lets me decide whether I really need to get off the couch and answer the door.

I didn't like Blink cams because the notification suppression schedules in the app were like account-wide or something, instead of per-camera. I want notifications for every motion on my doorbell and driveway cams, but only want them for my back yard and pool cams after 11pm, etc.

movax
Aug 30, 2008

Douchebag posted:

What are the recommended DIY security systems here? I don’t want a monthly fee with a 5 year contract because I have to pay off $2K of equipment at 0%. My wife wants that but I think we’d be better served with some blink outdoor cameras and a camera/floodlight setup over my garage.

House is a new construction so I’ve been approached by CPI and ADT and CPI seems to have better equipment (and they did all the low voltage wiring in the house) but I don’t need that expensive of a setup.

I would like cameras to cover the exterior, a doorbell camera and that’s really it? We both work from home so I don’t really see the need for something elaborate enough to have a $40-60 monthly payment.

I did AlarmGrid and self installed a Honeywell Lyric + took over the old original wired system. All the sensors show up in HomeKit so I can do brain dead simple automations like “opening den sliding door at night turns on outdoor lights at 50%” when letting the dog out.

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend
I'm building a barn and want to add smart switches and/or outlets to make it a little easier on my wife. She ordered these fans:

Tornado - 18 Inch High Velocity Industrial Wall Fan with TEAO Enclosure Motor - 4000 CFM - 3 Speed - 6.5 FT Cord - Industrial, Commercial, Residential Use - UL Safety Listed https://a.co/d/7LIXgYU

One building will have two of them and the second building will have three. My electrician originally recommended these HomeKit switches but is now saying they won't work (which is extremely loving annoying but whatever):

Lutron Caséta Wireless Smart Fan Speed Control Switch, Single-Pole, PD-FSQN-WH, White https://a.co/d/7fVRvcD

Is there any sort of HomeKit switch that will work? Or if not HK then something I could setup in HomeAssistant.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

EC posted:

My electrician originally recommended these HomeKit switches but is now saying they won't work (which is extremely loving annoying but whatever):

You're going to have to get a reason why your electrician said that. Because there is no reason those switches can't be used for a 1 amp fan control.

If he's having an issue with code compliance putting a dimmer on an outlet there are ways to do this that sometimes vary by jurisdiction, but it's almost always possible. He needs to talk to the AHJ and ask if this is the issue.

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend

Motronic posted:

You're going to have to get a reason why your electrician said that. Because there is no reason those switches can't be used for a 1 amp fan control.

If he's having an issue with code compliance putting a dimmer on an outlet there are ways to do this that sometimes vary by jurisdiction, but it's almost always possible. He needs to talk to the AHJ and ask if this is the issue.

Maybe it's because I wanted to control multiple fans with one switch? Like ideally all three in the second building would be controlled simultaneously. But idk anything about electric poo poo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

EC posted:

Maybe it's because I wanted to control multiple fans with one switch? Like ideally all three in the second building would be controlled simultaneously. But idk anything about electric poo poo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If you don't know the problem nobody can suggest a solution.

movax
Aug 30, 2008

From a quick read, those fans just plug into an outlet and are speed controlled with a knob on them, or something. A fan controller will not work if that’s the case.

You probably want the regular Caseta switch, PD5-ANS. That will switch an outlet / load on or off and I’m struggling to think about why that would be banned in this case.

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend

movax posted:

From a quick read, those fans just plug into an outlet and are speed controlled with a knob on them, or something. A fan controller will not work if that’s the case.

You probably want the regular Caseta switch, PD5-ANS. That will switch an outlet / load on or off and I’m struggling to think about why that would be banned in this case.

Yeah that's what I'm realizing. Talked to the contractor again today and that will totally work, so that's what I'll use.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

movax posted:

From a quick read, those fans just plug into an outlet and are speed controlled with a knob on them, or something. A fan controller will not work if that’s the case.

Most ceiling fans work like this and a fan controller works just fine. You switch the fan to the highest setting and then use the fan controller for any speed control.

Unless there is something else going on here I'm not seeing the problem.

slurm
Jul 28, 2022

by Hand Knit
I want to run cat6 in my house but where I have the switch etc how do I take like 20 cables into the wall at that one point properly?

Mercurius
May 4, 2004

Amp it up.

slurm posted:

I want to run cat6 in my house but where I have the switch etc how do I take like 20 cables into the wall at that one point properly?
You basically have two options: terminate the cable runs in a patch panel or get them wired into several multi-port outlets.

Terminating the cables to a patch panel is certainly neater if you're comfortable with using one and you've got a rack to put it plus the switch in but it's going to be annoying for the next people if you sell the house.

Multi-port wall plates usually end up looking messier with cabling but are significantly easier to use if you don't want to rack-mount stuff (plus they're easier for anyone who buys the house if you sell it). If you get the cables run through conduit you can theoretically use them as guides to pull through replacement cables and just switch out the plates later on.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

slurm posted:

I want to run cat6 in my house but where I have the switch etc how do I take like 20 cables into the wall at that one point properly?
For 20 I'd definitely do a patch panel rather than wall plates. Presumably that means a 24 port or larger switch will be in play, which generally means 1U rack size anyways.

Hang some variety of wall mount mini-rack along the lines of https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Bracket-Equipment-Mounting-WALLMOUNT6/dp/B0B9M5LMYM/ and then you have a place for the patch panel, switch, and whatever other equipment you want to put there.

I prefer the keystone style patch panels for small installs because they're easier to modify in the future and can support other kinds of connections like coax if you feel like cleaning up other wiring. 110 style is a bit quicker for bulk installs but much harder to work on down the line.


Mercurius posted:

but it's going to be annoying for the next people if you sell the house.

quote:

(plus they're easier for anyone who buys the house if you sell it).
Curious what your logic is here, how would a patch panel in a mini-rack be annoying for the next owner compared to 20 jacks worth of keystone wall plates? In both cases you end up with 20 ethernet jacks in a small area, but the panel/rack setup gives you a place to put other equipment that probably needs to go right there anyways.

Mercurius
May 4, 2004

Amp it up.

wolrah posted:

For 20 I'd definitely do a patch panel rather than wall plates. Presumably that means a 24 port or larger switch will be in play, which generally means 1U rack size anyways.

Hang some variety of wall mount mini-rack along the lines of https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Bracket-Equipment-Mounting-WALLMOUNT6/dp/B0B9M5LMYM/ and then you have a place for the patch panel, switch, and whatever other equipment you want to put there.

I prefer the keystone style patch panels for small installs because they're easier to modify in the future and can support other kinds of connections like coax if you feel like cleaning up other wiring. 110 style is a bit quicker for bulk installs but much harder to work on down the line.



Curious what your logic is here, how would a patch panel in a mini-rack be annoying for the next owner compared to 20 jacks worth of keystone wall plates? In both cases you end up with 20 ethernet jacks in a small area, but the panel/rack setup gives you a place to put other equipment that probably needs to go right there anyways.
I suppose it might be different outside of Australia but here you have to get licenced cable installers to do any data cabling work and most of the time that's done by standard electricians who have a cabling licence. They tend to be quite capable of terminating cable into wall plates since they're used to doing so with power cable but they're not telecommunications people and most of them aren't familiar with terminating stuff into punch down blocks on a patch panel.

I've never seen anyone here leave any wall mounted racks or communications equipment in a house when they sell it. Most people would take the rack/patch panel with them so they simply cut off the cables and leave a bunch of tape over the ends of the cables which just leaves a mess for the next people who move in to deal with.

Data outlets are at least still going to be there on the wall regardless since they're terminated completely differently.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Mercurius posted:

I suppose it might be different outside of Australia but here you have to get licenced cable installers to do any data cabling work and most of the time that's done by standard electricians who have a cabling licence. They tend to be quite capable of terminating cable into wall plates since they're used to doing so with power cable but they're not telecommunications people and most of them aren't familiar with terminating stuff into punch down blocks on a patch panel.
In the majority of the US anything "low voltage" (read: POTS voltage and below) is basically unregulated beyond plenum-grade wire being required in certain locations. I generally have a reaction of fear if I hear someone had their electrician install data wiring.

quote:

I've never seen anyone here leave any wall mounted racks or communications equipment in a house when they sell it. Most people would take the rack/patch panel with them so they simply cut off the cables and leave a bunch of tape over the ends of the cables which just leaves a mess for the next people who move in to deal with.
I mean, I wouldn't leave behind a full size rack but a 4-8U mini rack like I linked installed in a home I'd consider along the same lines as a structured wiring cabinet and just leave behind.

When I move big racks I at least try to unhook the patch panels and leave them behind if possible. Sometimes that's not practical and it's getting cut, but it'd be a real dick move to do that over a single patch panel and a cheap minirack.

quote:

Data outlets are at least still going to be there on the wall regardless since they're terminated completely differently.
I'm suggesting the use of a keystone patch panel, so termination is identical. Either way the wire goes in to a keystone jack, the only difference is whether it's going in to a single 1U plate on a bracket or a minimum of four boxes worth of wall plates.

Mercurius
May 4, 2004

Amp it up.

wolrah posted:

In the majority of the US anything "low voltage" (read: POTS voltage and below) is basically unregulated beyond plenum-grade wire being required in certain locations. I generally have a reaction of fear if I hear someone had their electrician install data wiring.

I mean, I wouldn't leave behind a full size rack but a 4-8U mini rack like I linked installed in a home I'd consider along the same lines as a structured wiring cabinet and just leave behind.

When I move big racks I at least try to unhook the patch panels and leave them behind if possible. Sometimes that's not practical and it's getting cut, but it'd be a real dick move to do that over a single patch panel and a cheap minirack.

I'm suggesting the use of a keystone patch panel, so termination is identical. Either way the wire goes in to a keystone jack, the only difference is whether it's going in to a single 1U plate on a bracket or a minimum of four boxes worth of wall plates.
That makes more sense and also explains a bunch of the horror stories I see here about wiring in American houses :v:. Here you're required by law to have licenced people working on house wiring (and insurance companies will cheerfully throw you under a bus if something goes wrong and you don't) which explains the difference in approach.

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe

Mercurius posted:

That makes more sense and also explains a bunch of the horror stories I see here about wiring in American houses :v:. Here you're required by law to have licenced people working on house wiring (and insurance companies will cheerfully throw you under a bus if something goes wrong and you don't) which explains the difference in approach.

Not that things can't go wrong with low voltage, but is it really common enough that insurance companies go nuts over "unauthorised" data cabling?

Now I'm picturing a fire marshal down under holding up a wall-to-computer patch cable at a press conference deriding "unlicenced suicide cables"

Rakeris
Jul 20, 2014

When pulling out low voltage stuff at my house recently (door bell transformer stuff) and some of the things I found made me surprised the doorbell even worked. Multiple splices that went nowhere, some just shoved into insulation in the attic, found one run where the cut ends were wrapped in tinfoil...

Not that I think any regulation would have changed that, as POs will PO. But it seems excessive to me for low voltage to be regulated that heavily.

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slurm
Jul 28, 2022

by Hand Knit

Mercurius posted:

I suppose it might be different outside of Australia but here you have to get licenced cable installers to do any data cabling work and most of the time that's done by standard electricians who have a cabling licence. They tend to be quite capable of terminating cable into wall plates since they're used to doing so with power cable but they're not telecommunications people and most of them aren't familiar with terminating stuff into punch down blocks on a patch panel.

I've never seen anyone here leave any wall mounted racks or communications equipment in a house when they sell it. Most people would take the rack/patch panel with them so they simply cut off the cables and leave a bunch of tape over the ends of the cables which just leaves a mess for the next people who move in to deal with.

Data outlets are at least still going to be there on the wall regardless since they're terminated completely differently.

In the US no one cares. I've run a fair amount of it in my industrial-setting job and we just kind of handle it like any other cable without any special knowledge or training honestly.

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