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CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

FirstAidKite posted:

No no I knew about that stuff already, I just wasn't sure what was meant by missing a reference in the cat lady by not playing the original non-canon downfall.

Tbh I think that trilogy is at its strongest when it is tackling the issues of the horror of trying to live with mental illness without the supernatural being the cause of said mental illness or exacerbating it into bog standard "mental illness turns you into a psycho killer" cliche. They get the nuance right sometimes but that just makes the other times that lack the nuance stand out more, for the worse imo.

yeah, the parts where you kill the parasites (aside from the final one, which I found very compelling) are the weaker parts of the story. the first parasite was fine because it's a man whose narcissism comes through in his normal work of controlling the lives of his patients, and then it comes through in his murders too. but the exterminator household was just pretty bad. there is a reason why the scene that sticks out to everyone after playing is the one where you just have to make yourself coffee.

Its a weird game because Susan absolutely has some serious depression stemming from the loss of her child and the dissolution of her marriage but its also like "the main antagonist is depression but also it can give you literal superpowers" since the plot is not explainable without her ability to come back to life after dying or pull things out of alternate worlds.

CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Sep 29, 2022

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Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

Huh? What?


It hasn't been recommended in here but you could also keep an eye out for the Obscure games, if you like the feeling of B-movie dumb horror stuff- bonus in that the games are built to support couch co-op if that interests you :v:

Read After Burning
Feb 19, 2013

"All this, for me? 💃Ah, you didn't have to! 🥰"
If you wanna start getting into horror games, why not try more "low-stakes" ones first, like horror visual novels or walking sims? Then you can graduate to games with combat or stealth?

Play Kuon, if you can find or :filez: it!

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Read After Burning posted:

If you wanna start getting into horror games, why not try more "low-stakes" ones first, like horror visual novels or walking sims? Then you can graduate to games with combat or stealth?


*posts that webcomic with the girl walking home that autoscrolls when the broken bodied woman chases her down*

SkeletonHero
Sep 7, 2010

:dehumanize:
:killing:
:dehumanize:

Mode 7 posted:

Horror thread, I come to you seeking help.

I want to enjoy horror games, but I am a tremendous scaredy cat.

Love horror movies, enjoy being scared by horror movies, but the second you put me in control of the action I rapidly become too terrified to keep playing. I'll watch a movie where a character is about to open the door you just know the killer is behind with a big grin on my face, but if I have to make my character walk up and open that drat door I just...can't do it, I find the whole experience way more intense. Accordingly a lot of the way that I've experienced horror games is through watching LPs of them, the Silent Hill series and PT in particular.

Given that October is Spooky Game Season, I want to try to throw myself at some horror games and give myself some "immersion therapy" as it were to help me stop freaking myself out so bad.
Can anyone suggest some horror games to give me an on-ramp? As I play more horror games and get some experience under my belt I'll start ramping it up in intensity,

PC, Xbox Series S, Switch available and happy to emulate any older systems.

Stuff I noped out real, real hard on:
Amnesia - A friend made me play, I did not have a good time.
Alien Isolation - I loving love Alien and Aliens which I think didn't help because I was familiar with the source material and was already freaked out well before the Xenomorph showed up because I knew what was coming :v:


Horror stuff I've played successfully:

Year Walk
Yahtzee's Chzo Mythos games
Oxenfree. Had horror moments but not really a horror game per se.
Telltale's The Walking Dead.
Limbo & Inside, though I don't know how much they count as horror games.
Until Dawn (with my wife which helped mitigate a lot of the scares particularly since it's trading so hard into horror movie tropes)
Dying Light (weirdly despite all the first person chase sequences I was fine, probably because you accumulate so much weaponry that it rapidly stops being scary)
I made it through the Ocean House Hotel in Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines with gritted teeth while swearing profusely to the amusement of a friend watching me play
Resident Evil 5 - felt waaaaaaaaaay more like an action game than a horror one.

Try the Dread X collections. Each one has a handful of short horror indies with varying degrees of spooky/weird/funny vibes. They're less than :10bux: each.

treat
Jul 24, 2008

by the sex ghost
On the same vein as Dread X, there are tons of excellent horror games on itch.io for free or cheap, especially if you've bought any of those massive bundles over the last couple years. They can range from mildly unsettling to horrifically effective but they're almost always short enough that you can power through the experience before it exhausts you. There are also a lot of them that are strictly :mood: without anything chasing or jumping out at you that I generally find more interesting or memorable.

some stuff I've enjoyed, in my incredibly subjective order of least to most scary:

https://umbrella-isle.itch.io/222am
https://minigoliath.itch.io/terminal
https://akuma-kira.itch.io/the-undying-beast
https://akuma-kira.itch.io/corpseocean
https://impostersyndrome.itch.io/death-flush
https://drunkardwolf.itch.io/park-lane
https://papercookies.itch.io/no-players-online
https://dirigogames.itch.io/stowaway
https://aethericgames.itch.io/bonbon
https://itsthetalia.itch.io/swallow-the-sea
https://enigma-studio.itch.io/mothered

and some stuff I haven't gotten around to yet but have heard great things about, or things I played too long ago/too stoned to remember how scary they are:

https://danthai.itch.io/first-winter
https://feverdreamjohnny.itch.io/turgor-pressure
https://enigma-studio.itch.io/the-enigma-machine
https://enigma-studio.itch.io/echostasis-prologue
https://oleandergarden.itch.io/pagan3
https://chrstphfr.itch.io/letters-to-a-friend-farewell
https://chrstphfr.itch.io/horror-vacui
https://visceralerror.itch.io/the-gallagher-case
https://bryce-bucher.itch.io/location-withheld
https://arboreta.itch.io/the-black-iris
https://glory-meat.itch.io/allyway
https://bryce-bucher.itch.io/mysteries-under-lake-ophelia

Mode 7
Jul 28, 2007

Thank you so much for the recommendations everyone.
I've got a ton to dig through there and plan to document my attempts/efforts/experiences over the course of October.

I think Little Nightmares is definitely going to be one of the first I jump into.
Thanks for that big list of itch horror games as well, treat - I'll pepper those liberally around bigger games.

Also as I love Twin Peaks, how intense/scary are Alan Wake (and should I play the original or the remake?) and Deadly Premonition?

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames
Deadly Premonition has enough funny stuff to make the horror not hit so hard, and it's a budget game so the horror doesn't really hit in the first place in a lot of cases. Could always watch the SGF lp on it. Can't speak to AW.

Read After Burning
Feb 19, 2013

"All this, for me? 💃Ah, you didn't have to! 🥰"

Mode 7 posted:

Also as I love Twin Peaks, how intense/scary are Alan Wake (and should I play the original or the remake?) and Deadly Premonition?

Deadly Premonition is literally Twin Peaks: The Game, while Alan Wake has some homages. I definitely found the latter to be scarier/more intense, although DP has a little bit of body horror that unsettled me.

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames
my fear of dp2 is mostly because i hear it's terrible :v:

also

RightClickSaveAs posted:

UPCOMING HORROR GAMES

Routine (expected release date: who knows, sometime in the next year maybe)
RightClickSaveAs hosed around with this message at 22:28 on Jan 1, 2016

lol. lmao

Bogart fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Sep 30, 2022

Read After Burning
Feb 19, 2013

"All this, for me? 💃Ah, you didn't have to! 🥰"
I still need to play DP2, but I hear it's...not very good. Yet, "Francis York Morgan explores Louisiana" is something I never knew I needed in my life.

VERY COOL MAN
Jun 24, 2011

THESE PACKETS ARE... SUMMARILY DEALT WITH
i wouldnt even go so far as to say deadly premonition tries to be scary, its more of a horror-themed magical realist detective adventure game. also, twin peaks.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



I like Alan Wake, but more in a general story sense than as a super fun game. It's fine, its gimmick is nice but just not enough to really hold up for the full game. I would say it goes for more of a general tense/creepy vibe with enemies constantly coming at you in dark areas, but they're frequent enough that it's not particularly scary. The remake's fine, I honestly can't remember if it really changed anything other than just updating the graphics.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
I think Alan Wake loses its scariness about halfway through. It has some homages to Twin Peaks, but it feels like an homage to Stephen King-esque stories. There’s direct references to him in the first 5 minutes.

It’s a good game. I would imagine the remaster looks really good.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Alan Wake imo is a good game in another of those "not scary but has good scary atmophere/themes". It's extremely shlocky and you're either love that for it or find it very annoying.

Also it has a great soundtrack and the lore isn't the worst. The connection to Control was lame though

E. I just started Lorelai, and there's a baby in the intro that was in a point of danger. Could someone spoil me if I need a trigger warning for anything involving her?

CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Sep 30, 2022

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009

CuddleCryptid posted:

E. I just started Lorelai, and there's a baby in the intro that was in a point of danger. Could someone spoil me if I need a trigger warning for anything involving her?

Being purposefully vague here with Lorelai spoilers
You don't see anything. You control the outcome.

And more explicit spoilers for each game in the trilogy

A baby dies in each game but you never see it happen, with the Cat Lady being the closest to showing it and the Downfall remake being the furthest from showing it

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Fingerless Gloves posted:

Discover my Body

Just played this

:stare:

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames
Yames owns.

https://youtu.be/xZBWIwY0Xik

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Yeah everything he makes is great. Really fond of Growing My Grandpa.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

FirstAidKite posted:

Being purposefully vague here with Lorelai spoilers
You don't see anything. You control the outcome.

And more explicit spoilers for each game in the trilogy

A baby dies in each game but you never see it happen, with the Cat Lady being the closest to showing it and the Downfall remake being the furthest from showing it

Thanks for the response, is there a way to avoid it? We already got through the hallucination deaths at the start, we're on the third chapter now.

I swear every drat horror game has some sort of dying kid in it, I had to stop playing Amnesia because of that poo poo.

WHY BONER NOW
Mar 6, 2016

Pillbug
Luigi's Mansion would be a good gateway horror game imo

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009

CuddleCryptid posted:

Thanks for the response, is there a way to avoid it?

There is not

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



Captain Hygiene posted:

Hmm, I first played the Dead Space games within the last year and I didn't notice anything particularly bad about the first one in PC. It's a little dated, but much like RE4 I thought it was still perfectly playable.

It's technically kneecapped, you have to mod it to fix all of the controller/mouse/vsync horseshit that they never fixed. This mod fixes it all: https://www.nexusmods.com/deadspace...ating%20V-Sync.

Scorn is out in 2 weeks, going to start up the Prologue thing they sent out to backers to see how it is. It won't even run on the Steam Deck, so RIP.

joylessdivision
Jun 15, 2013



Mode 7 posted:

I made it through the Ocean House Hotel in Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines with gritted teeth while swearing profusely to the amusement of a friend watching me play

I played through this segment for the first time a couple months back and as someone who plays a lot of horror games, that place was legit creepy as hell.

Although once you know you can't really be hurt by much other than falling due to bad platforming it's a breeze to get through lol.

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

The Excavation of Hob's Barrow is a good horror adventure game. Its pretty good at building up an atmosphere. There are no really illogical puzzles either.

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



Scorn's one of the most visually stunning games I've ever seen, everything is so detailed it looks like rendered concept art when you just stare off at the level design. It's incredible.

However I can already see people complaining about it being a slog because the Prologue is slow as hell, there's no combat and everything is slow and labored. I think this was a really dumb move but the first puzzle of the game is an annoying sliding block puzzle. Come on son.

I'm eating up the visuals and I can't wait for the full release.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



sigher posted:

Scorn's one of the most visually stunning games I've ever seen, everything is so detailed it looks like rendered concept art when you just stare off at the level design. It's incredible.

However I can already see people complaining about it being a slog because the Prologue is slow as hell, there's no combat and everything is slow and labored. I think this was a really dumb move but the first puzzle of the game is an annoying sliding block puzzle. Come on son.

I'm eating up the visuals and I can't wait for the full release.

Oh man, that one really does look great. The name never sticks in my head though, I had to look it up to remember it's the one that basically looks like you're on HR Giger World.

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames
Bizarre to make the first challenge in a deeply alien and unwelcoming world pushing blocks, but maybe it makes sense in context.

Read After Burning
Feb 19, 2013

"All this, for me? 💃Ah, you didn't have to! 🥰"
On the other hand, block pushing puzzles may not be alien to me, but they ARE unwelcoming. :colbert:

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



Bogart posted:

Bizarre to make the first challenge in a deeply alien and unwelcoming world pushing blocks, but maybe it makes sense in context.

There's a grid on the wall with "nodes" on them and you control, basically an Alien Factory Arm, to slide them around. Two of them are glowing and there's a certain spot you have to slide them to and then use another arm to pick the glowing nodes off of the wall. However, a lot of the nodes are stuck together and have to be moved together so you're using this slow rear end arm to slide poo poo around and make room for the one you actually need.

I'm not sure why an alien world would store things on walls that can only be retrieved from a certain point but eeeeehhh, it's a puzzle just to be a puzzle. It doesn't feel "alien" once you realize it's just a sliding block puzzle. It also took way to long for me to finish and I'm pretty drat good at sliding block puzzles.

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE5EEz3t0Xw

New Gameplay trailer for the Dead Space remake and it's looking great, I love recognizing all of the rooms shown, they've done some drat good work here.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

sigher posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE5EEz3t0Xw

New Gameplay trailer for the Dead Space remake and it's looking great, I love recognizing all of the rooms shown, they've done some drat good work here.

The clear hallway and outer space sections look great, although it does looks like the brown mist from earlier sections is here to stay. Hopefully it's just for the one area.

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!

Barry Convex posted:

I'm considering playing the Devil Came Through Here trilogy for October, but I'm not sure how high my tolerance is for very dated game engines like AGS. I'll at least give Cat Lady a try first, but is it possible to skip to Lorelai, since that one is at least built in Unity?

fyi, I did give it a try, but it's definitely not for me - the AGS jank combined with very slow movement speed is just too much, especially when point-and-click adventure games aren't my favorite genre to begin with. I might still give Lorelai a try, though.

Started playing In Sound Mind via the EGS freebie. Not the most original first-person horror game, but it seems pretty solid thus far.

sigher posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE5EEz3t0Xw

New Gameplay trailer for the Dead Space remake and it's looking great, I love recognizing all of the rooms shown, they've done some drat good work here.

DS1 had great atmosphere and combat mechanics, but I found the level/mission/encounter design to be awfully repetitive, so I hope the remake isn't overly faithful. It does look great, at least.

Barry Convex fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Oct 4, 2022

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


I can still play the DS1 trailer and Twinkle Twinkle creeps my wife out to no end.

Agent Escalus
Oct 5, 2002

"I couldn't stop saying aloud how miscast Jim Carrey was!"
Well, I’m at like 172 GB of demos downloaded (so far) for the Steam Next Fest, some of the horror titles look legit good but I haven’t started playing anything yet. Any highlights or good first impressions from those of you who’ve had the time to get some stuff going?

treat
Jul 24, 2008

by the sex ghost
Cat Lady is a mood game, and not the sort of thing you'd want to rush through. It's got some spooky bits I guess but it's definitely not about getting scared, it's about getting sad. also uncomfortable. It'd probably be in my "100 best games" list if I ever cared to make one but I don't really think of it as an adventure game and didn't really treat it as such while I played it. It absolutely plays like an adventure game but I think it fits the mold of an IF/visual novel game a bit better because it wants to convey something heavy and evoke emotion way more than it wants you to be entertained.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

sigher posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE5EEz3t0Xw

New Gameplay trailer for the Dead Space remake and it's looking great, I love recognizing all of the rooms shown, they've done some drat good work here.

Looks so good

Bonaventure
Jun 23, 2005

by sebmojo
i'm racking my brains trying to remember: what is the name of:

* an upcoming edgy-as-gently caress horror game where you play as a killer hunting down people and eviscerating them
* it's from a controversial studio everyone hates
* the announcement trailer was, like, beta footage and the main character looked like the Going to the Store mannequin dude flopping around

i keep wanting to say "Tormentum" but it's not coming up with anything. it looks awful but it's been on the tip of my tongue for 24 hours

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Bonaventure posted:

i'm racking my brains trying to remember: what is the name of:

* an upcoming edgy-as-gently caress horror game where you play as a killer hunting down people and eviscerating them
* it's from a controversial studio everyone hates
* the announcement trailer was, like, beta footage and the main character looked like the Going to the Store mannequin dude flopping around

i keep wanting to say "Tormentum" but it's not coming up with anything. it looks awful but it's been on the tip of my tongue for 24 hours
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Bonaventure
Jun 23, 2005

by sebmojo

nah it was behind-the-back third person, all the environments were nondescript concrete hallways; the player character was fond of ripping off people's skin from their skulls probably because it was the one animation they had finished iirc

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