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I feel like it's just a matter of how much news there is to report. This thread for the past week days has mostly just been a small number of photos/videos, largely indistinguishable from those from the first couple of days. It's not that theres nothing happening, but there is a limited amount to say about it, especially when there's so much going on elsewhere.
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Samovar posted:Yeah, I'm curious too as to why this is. the (sad) reason is: nobody gives a gently caress about iran is why. i only know about all of this because of loving GBS of all things. in central europe we arent even seeing much of ukraine anymore cause its gotten stale, and there arent even any tanks rolling in Iran so who cares - theres soccer tonight, woo hoo!
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Yolomon Wayne posted:the (sad) reason is: nobody gives a gently caress about iran is why. Nah there is more going on than just that. News from Iran is getting drowned out, Iran is somewhat further down the ladder of importance in many countries but there's countless places that people care far less about than Iran (I'd say that Iran and the Middle East in general rank somewhat highly in terms of places people in the West care about news from compared to most of the rest of Asia as well as Latin America and Africa). News also have a hard time finding their way out in general, we're mostly seeing videos and pictures from social media, and the regime is basically saying nothing.
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Sep 27, 2022 12:28
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BBC has been showing it on it's TV channel on a regular basis 
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Sep 27, 2022 12:38
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GIrlfriend is texting me that Khamenei might be dead? There's some sort of 'death limbo' that he's in where his body hasn't been properly transferred back to Iran yet so it doesn't count, therefore it hasn't been publicly announced yet
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PIZZA.BAT posted:GIrlfriend is texting me that Khamenei might be dead? There's some sort of 'death limbo' that he's in where his body hasn't been properly transferred back to Iran yet so it doesn't count, therefore it hasn't been publicly announced yet Wait, he's not in Iran? I know he's been on life support for a while now so it's not surprising if he finally kicked the bucket. I guess this would satisfy the protester's demand of death to dictator and might be an opportunity for the regime to de-escalate by promising some reforms. Would it though? That's literally what the people have been demanding  vvvv mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Sep 27, 2022 |
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Sep 27, 2022 14:05
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Also announcing his death rn would just fuel the protests tbh
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Sep 27, 2022 14:05
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in the past this is when the army comes in and just kills hundreds of people so i hope that doesn't happen this time
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Samovar posted:Yeah, I'm curious too as to why this is. it's very much on purpose. western media generally isn't allowed into iran at all when they are allowed in they're not infrequently jailed and/or executed https://www.insidevoa.com/a/voa-denounces-the-arrests-of-multiple-journalists-in-iran-/6764111.html theres also the fact that israel/the west wants iran to destabilize and die. not worth riling up the college students on either side of the issue about a regime you'd wipe off the planet if you could. the 'right' gains no traction from being correctly equated to religious fundamentalism and the 'left' gains nothing from being equated to iranian progressives big lose/lose for modern western nationalist propaganda here. so you won't see it on tv.
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Sep 27, 2022 15:18
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the pretty hate machine of the news would not be able to effectively channel your dissatisfaction into anything profitable, so on to the next issue that sells better
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Sep 27, 2022 15:20
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https://twitter.com/realsamshahan/status/1574810361278205952?s=46&t=qQosYaog4LICOo7u24xbBw Some new footage
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protests are definitely ongoing https://twitter.com/no_itsmyturn/status/1574822792457080833 https://twitter.com/IranNW/status/1574825514883162112
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GolfHole posted:theres also the fact that israel/the west wants iran to destabilize and die. not worth riling up the college students on either side of the issue about a regime you'd wipe off the planet if you could. i'm sorry you think this isn't in the news because it would rile up all the pro-Islamic Republic college students? you are aware that every large protest movement in Iran was covered extensively? if there's a lack of videos now it's because there are no journalists there anymore (because they get arrested and held hostage) and the internet is shut off idiots like you who pin everything on some organized propaganda movement are just disappointing. turn off the loving tv and stop letting it bring your intelligence down Mozi fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Sep 27, 2022 |
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I dont watch tv, but there is plenty of coverage in newspapers in my Western European country. 100% of which is written from the assumption that the reader feels support for these protestors. Not really tracking with theories about the West repressing the news because death to Iran or whatever
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Mad respect for my Iranian brothers and sisters
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Sep 30, 2022 07:12
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Seems like they're still going strong! https://i.imgur.com/nJgL6Sb.mp4 Supposedly today, Gohardasht, Karaj
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mobby_6kl posted:Seems like they're still going strong! God be with 'em.
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Some good news?  the popes toes posted:On other conflict news: Iran's IRGC's head of Intelligence in Sistan and Baluchistan province was delivered to eternity by anti-regime protestors. Translated: https://www-tasnimnews-com.translat...&_x_tr_pto=wapp Seems like a regime website so yeah rest in piss
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Heard from a (Norwegian) news report about a protest that was planned for this weekend in front of the embassy, mostly Kurds, becuase that's who's organized it, but also because Mahsa Amin had family here. Anyway the person who was interviewed said that Iran had (using drones and other means) recently carried out strikes against Kurdish refugee camps in Northern Iraq. Looking that up, it seems like it's corroborated. https://english.alaraby.co.uk/news/13-iranian-kurds-killed-northern-iraq-iranian-strikes
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Randarkman posted:Heard from a (Norwegian) news report about a protest that was planned for this weekend in front of the embassy, mostly Kurds, becuase that's who's organized it, but also because Mahsa Amin had family here. Anyway the person who was interviewed said that Iran had (using drones and other means) recently carried out strikes against Kurdish refugee camps in Northern Iraq. It does seem like more assholes got got in Iran at least: https://apnews.com/article/iran-middle-east-dubai-united-arab-emirates-f74d43c1273fa6422fbde3a01fa09115
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Mozi posted:i'm sorry you think this isn't in the news because it would rile up all the pro-Islamic Republic college students? uhh hmm the united states of america hates iran. they want iran to die and destabilize. this is well documented by history. it's why you aren't seeing any of this poo poo on tv. the us doesn't give a gently caress and it doesn't want its populace to give a gently caress to this otherwise EASILY-relatable cause. it screws up the narrative of iran = bad. it's not organized propaganda dude it's just world politics. edit: unless you consider politics propaganda. which you should! it is. GolfHole fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Oct 1, 2022 |
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This doesn't make sense. The US doesn't hate Iran, it hates the government of Iran. You can tell this because before the 1979 revolution, the US loved Iran. Traditionally, promoting rebellion against such governments is considered cool and good.
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GolfHole posted:uhh hmm Dude, you can make up whatever reality you want about this, but that doesn't make it true that this isn't being covered. You can go into most American and other english news sites and either look or search for "Iran" and find several articles, from today and from the last few days. All the previous times there have been protests in Iran, including in 2019 and especially the 2009 green movement, it was extensively covered by Western media, including in the US. This time it's getting overshadowed as far as headlines go, but you are basically making up your own reality that this is deliberately not being covered. poo poo, there was that one American republican ghoul who called on the US to support the protesters early on in these ones. The hatred for of the American right for the Iranian regime very much extends to wanting to publicly support anti-regime protests. They also are often big fans of bringing up those 1960s and 1970s glamour photos from the time when the Shah ruled. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Oct 1, 2022 |
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GolfHole posted:uhh hmm I'm loving the implication that news media takes marching orders from Washington, rather than representing the interests of the capitalists who own the company.
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well thats fair and accurate, it's not a vendetta against the entire country i dont mean to start an argument so ill back off whatever point i made in favor of bashing the morality police instead i just profess: there is a reason you don't hear about liberal revolutions in "axis of evil" countries and it's because thinking "we are all one" is not conducive to nationalism. i'd love if we lived in the star trek future where every democracy can stand on its own rules of law, but clearly we're still in the phase of humanity where the government will shoot you for cutting your hair
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GolfHole posted:i just profess: there is a reason you don't hear about liberal revolutions in "axis of evil" countries and it's because thinking "we are all one" is not conducive to nationalism. i'd love if we lived in the star trek future where every democracy can stand on its own rules of law, but clearly we're still in the phase of humanity where the government will shoot you for cutting your hair This is patently false, especially with Iran, every time there's been signficant anti-government protests in Iran it's been extensively covered in Western press.
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"I don't mean to start an argument" lol gently caress off. Don't act like you're nobly backing out for the sake of the thread. You said goofy poo poo and got called on it. That's internet posting sometimes.
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Randarkman posted:This is patently false, especially with Iran, every time there's been signficant anti-government protests in Iran it's been extensively covered in Western press. im not sure i can agree with this point exactly. censorship really does get in the way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Iranian_presidential_election_protests#Censorship
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Blue Footed Booby posted:"I don't mean to start an argument" lol gently caress off. Don't act like you're nobly backing out for the sake of the thread. You said goofy poo poo and got called on it. That's internet posting sometimes. i honestly feel like im in the bizzaro zone where saying "the united states hates iran" is goofy, but aight. backing out ignobly,
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mobby_6kl posted:This doesn't make sense. The US doesn't hate Iran, it hates the government of Iran. You can tell this because before the 1979 revolution, the US loved Iran. this. america would loving LOVE if iran became a democratic non theocracy again because then we don't have to rely on loving KSA or Israel for oil or partnerships or etc. we friends with iran for better or worse until carter hosed up and didnt throw the shah to the revolution. i think the theocratic goverment is hosed in the long term, they will either have to reform hard or eventually get overthrown or worse the country fractures. with the US media thing. its probably more because the media doesn't want to look bad when/if the protests get crushed badly plus 20 other news things going on that they "care" more about.
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GolfHole posted:im not sure i can agree with this point exactly. censorship really does get in the way: That's about the Iranian government trying to prevent western reporters from covering anti-government protests, I'm not sure how it supports the argument that western press doesn't cover anti-government protests in Iran.
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GolfHole posted:i honestly feel like im in the bizzaro zone where saying "the united states hates iran" is goofy, but aight. backing out ignobly, What you were saying that people reacted to was that US and Western media deliberately does not cover Iranian anti-regime protests. This is extremely untrue. You also fundamentally misunderstand how the US and especially right-wing antagonism towards Iran manifests itself.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:I’ll take it over letting them get massacred. I don't know what Iran's military strength is but I'm sure it's strong enough to completely glass any sort of rebel group if they had weapons or not.
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Randarkman posted:Heard from a (Norwegian) news report about a protest that was planned for this weekend in front of the embassy, mostly Kurds, becuase that's who's organized it, but also because Mahsa Amin had family here. Anyway the person who was interviewed said that Iran had (using drones and other means) recently carried out strikes against Kurdish refugee camps in Northern Iraq. There’s protests organized all over the world today. I should have posted about them earlier itt. I was at the Pittsburgh protest downtown earlier a few hours ago. There will likely be more and I’ll post the deets here for anyone interested in participating
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Oct 1, 2022 19:40
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Iran regime is pretty tight on foreign media getting visas. I think internet is pretty limited atm too?
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Tai posted:Iran regime is pretty tight on foreign media getting visas. I think internet is pretty limited atm too? Yeah, there was a discussion on Twitter yesterday that part of the problem is getting star links into Iran proper.
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GolfHole posted:i honestly feel like im in the bizzaro zone where saying "the united states hates iran" is goofy, but aight. backing out ignobly, The US government hates the Iranian government. The US government does not control US media, and the US media is in fact covering the protests.
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poo poo's still going down. A siege at a university in Tehran  https://iranwire.com/en/politics/108208-shotguns-and-tear-gas-at-the-siege-of-sharif-university/ https://twitter.com/iranwire/status/1576591507335049216
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