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The message is much more dire on a second read: they weren't working at the company for a while already, this means that it's their collective as artists that just now broke up, So not only the sequel was probably never gonna end up good, they're not even in a position to ever reach that greatness again in another form anymore Basically, they managed to make the tower stand, but only for a fleeting moment KPC_Mammon posted:Does this mean the proceeds from the merch, including ties and jackets are going to lovely people? yeah most definitely
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KPC_Mammon posted:Does this mean the proceeds from the merch, including ties and jackets are going to lovely people? 1000%
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Ledgy posted:The message is much more dire on a second read: they weren't working at the company for a while already, this means that it's their collective as artists that just now broke up, So not only the sequel was probably never gonna end up good, they're not even in a position to ever reach that greatness again in another form anymore I suppose we just have to hope, as others have said, that other publishers or devs or whatever can step in and help "get the band back together", if that is something they even want to do. If they can't manage it then I really hope they go on to make great things individually, whether that be in games or otherwise.
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Eason the Fifth posted:Better to disco out than pale away
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KPC_Mammon posted:Does this mean the proceeds from the merch, including ties and jackets are going to lovely people? I think ZA/UM Atelier is still going directly to the clothing designer and their team, don’t know about the non-Atelier merch. King Carnivore fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Oct 2, 2022 |
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First ZA/UM break up, now every day I wake up Somebody got a problem with Kurv'
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0.000% of Disco Elysium 2 has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule ZA/UM with a poo poo-eating grin.
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dead gay comedy forums posted:on the other hand they are now an available crack team that just went and made the highest metacritic pc game not if they signed non-competes which any savvy iinvestor would make them do lol
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Why do these people need to be with the same company to make another videogame? They'll get crowd funding or kindly investor cash to start a studio in five seconds.
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JBP posted:Why do these people need to be with the same company to make another videogame? They'll get crowd funding or kindly investor cash to start a studio in five seconds. They may not want to go through the years long ordeal of video game development again after doing it once and having their poo poo stolen.
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General Battuta posted:They may not want to go through the years long ordeal of video game development again after doing it once and having their poo poo stolen. They could think more about the terms under which they're making the game, but ok. Like they're not unknowns now. E: “The entire story is about how to react when you’re faced with failure,” Helen Hindpere, lead writer on the Final Cut, tells me. “How do you come out of it? What do you do?” JBP fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Oct 2, 2022 |
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JBP posted:They could think more about the terms under which they're making the game, but ok. Like they're not unknowns now. regard
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JBP posted:They could think more about the terms under which they're making the game, but ok. Like they're not unknowns now. Securing investment and building a team is not a casual thing to do, it takes years and usually long hours/personal sacrifices. Even for the most successful developers it’s a huge undertaking, investors or publishers rarely just write big checks without taking part ownership or seeing some sort of prototype with a dev team behind it (which takes time and money). If they have other options it may not be their best move personally.
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I'm sure devolver or someone would be willing to give them a hook up. DE is a glorified text adventure anyway.Horizon Burning posted:and "thinking more about the terms" will just have them labelled as difficult to work with Successful creatives are allowed to be somewhat difficult to work with
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Volte posted:For how little information there is about what actually happened, there sure is a lot of weird doomer speculation about how these guys are never going to work again They'll take the easy way out at the first hurdle. It's already official.
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Volte posted:For how little information there is about what actually happened, there sure is a lot of weird doomer speculation about how these guys are never going to work again I thought the Discord would have more information but it's the exact same rumours and speculation.
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Volte posted:For how little information there is about what actually happened, there sure is a lot of weird doomer speculation about how these guys are never going to work again It’s not so much that the people involved will never work again, it’s that there won’t be more of the same Disco Elysium world from the same people. Obviously they’ll work again, probably even most of them together again on the same team. But will they be working on this again?
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If they have to file off the serial numbers to release Misco Melysium 2, I'm okay with that. If they work on some completely new IP, I'm okay with that. If they look for a legal loophole that lets them gently caress over post-ZAUM and send the entirety of DE into the public domain, I'm okay with that.
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King Carnivore posted:But will they be working on this again? it is a real loving bummer if they lost specific rights of disco elysium but the whole worldbuilding is Kurvitz's et al. idk how it works legally or whatever but I don't think they can be sued for doing some sort of spiritual successor move anyway gently caress that rugpull. there's this. from the medium link quote:Martin Luiga iirc Martin was lead editor on za/um along kurvitz. holy poo poo, I hope he is safe and well https://twitter.com/martinluiga/status/1509499908071505924 he was out since march of this year (edit: at least), jfc to be done like that
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JBP posted:I'm sure devolver or someone would be willing to give them a hook up. DE is a glorified text adventure anyway. Yeah, I’m not worried about them finding a publisher, they were savvy enough to get Estonian billionaires who I imagine weren’t exactly gamers themselves to invest a ton of money into the game to allow them to hire a shitload of people, it says there’s currently 60 employees on their site, and work full time on the game for several years and this was obviously their first game. I feel like Annapurna would be a good publisher for whatever they do next, or at least they’re just the only other publisher I know of off the top of my head to fund games like Outer Wilds, which wasn’t technically their first game, but essentially it was, and allowed them to take it from a student project and completely redo all of the visuals and art, and rebuild the game with a proper development pipeline and custom tools, which also took years of work, and is a similarly ambitious game.
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Volte posted:For how little information there is about what actually happened, there sure is a lot of weird doomer speculation about how these guys are never going to work again I mean, how else do you interpret a member of the team doing an announcement that not only the artists working on the game dont work at their own company anymore, they decided 6 months later to dissolve their art society by actively claiming that they all ended up pitted against themselves? (In the article's comments) Shits dire Finding funding or not doesnt mean jack if the people behind the magic cant work together anymore Ledgy fucked around with this message at 09:37 on Oct 2, 2022 |
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JBP posted:I'm sure devolver or someone would be willing to give them a hook up. DE is a glorified text adventure anyway. DE would not have sold remotely as well as it did were it released as, say, a Choice Of game, or even a Visual Novel. Being part of the CRPG genre did a lot to help make people try it out before the word spread, and still does probably to the people who hear about it through word of mouth. A huge chunk of the gamer spectrum still think text adventures are not "real" videogames, and another chunk assume that if you don't have the money to make a game with a "proper" engine you probably didn't have a story worth telling in the first place.
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So did their investors want them to use the IP to make some lovely gatcha game with battle pass and NFTs or something? I can't imagine why else they would fire everyone unless they were giving pushback to something really dire and artistically compromising that would be seen by the investors as worth the loss in talent. They're gonna try and drain the soul of DE dry for the fastest and heaviest buck possible.
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GimmickMan posted:DE would not have sold remotely as well as it did were it released as, say, a Choice Of game, or even a Visual Novel. Being a CRPG went against it for me because I just cannot get my head round those games - the fact that it was more of a visual novel and didn't have CRPG combat is what drew me in.
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Blankspace posted:So did their investors want them to use the IP to make some lovely gatcha game with battle pass and NFTs or something? I can't imagine why else they would fire everyone unless they were giving pushback to something really dire and artistically compromising that would be seen by the investors as worth the loss in talent. They're gonna try and drain the soul of DE dry for the fastest and heaviest buck possible. The Amazon show was announced at about the same time as that article claims the artists quit the company
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