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A friend of mine just said in our Slack group: "A four pack of proxy cards with no guarantee you'll get... Well, anything. Power 9 is legendary, but I'm not sure most people remember the amount of pure drek that filled most rare slots. Like, unspeakable garbage. So unplayable it doesn't matter if it's gold bordered or not. Enjoy your $250 farmstead!" I'm not sure if this is true or not, but god I hope it is. If WotC is going to do dumb poo poo like this, I want to feast on the tears of the suckers that buy it.
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LOL E: Misread, it's fifteen, but still...
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Oct 4, 2022 15:59
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Oh, well that seals the deal then. I will enjoy a $67 Channel that I can't use, thank you very much.
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Oct 4, 2022 16:03
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https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/celebrate-30-years-magic-gathering-30th-anniversary-edition-2022-10-04 It's real. You might get a mox, but you'll likely get The Hive.
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Oct 4, 2022 16:04
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Railing Kill posted:lol I interpreted it more as "If the fuckers are saying this is okay for commander/cube then Proxy all you want so long as it isn't somewhere official, we aren't panopticoning your spelltable games."
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Oct 4, 2022 16:08
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Can't wait for the 30th anniversary back to get added to MPCFill so I can just pretend like I spent $$$$$ getting fake duals instead of $ to get fake duals.
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Oct 4, 2022 16:09
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Congrats MaRo, you reprinted reserve list cards. loving do it for real now you cowards.
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Oct 4, 2022 16:14
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Chakan posted:I spent a good deal of yesterday thinking about what number people would assign various precons and what a “real 4” and a “real 1” would look like. I’m pretty sure a 1 would have 70 basic lands and as many 4-cost 1/1 creatures with progenitus at the helm and no way to produce black mana or something. I just can’t figure out how someone could make a 1 unintentionally. There used to be a "Tobias Andrion" challenge to estimate how a deck would perform You take this deck: https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tobias-andrion-commander/ , which is nothing but vanilla creatures that play easily on curve and attack all out whenever able, and see how quickly you can beat it. The number of decks that fail this challenge... TesseractMinotaur posted:https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/celebrate-30-years-magic-gathering-30th-anniversary-edition-2022-10-04 So, someone got their papers mixed up, and instead of reading "Chinese proxy sellers are cutting into our secondary sales bottom line" and "ABU dual lands are going for $1k depending on condition" as separate line items...
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Oct 4, 2022 16:18
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Robviously posted:Congrats MaRo, you reprinted reserve list cards. loving do it for real now you cowards. 
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Oct 4, 2022 16:20
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I mean this is it right? This is WotC admitting that MtG is too expensive of a game to actually PLAY, so proxying is fine, for the reserved list at least. They're trying to capitalize on that of course, but that seems to be what this is. If nothing else proxying ABUR duals is free game now.
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Oct 4, 2022 17:06
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I feel like this isn't an admission of anything and is another attempt to see just how much people will pay for their product. Proxies aren't anything new and won't go away. They've never been tournament legal and if anything, this is akin to the CE set but stupid. I can be generous and say this is an attempt to see what added inventory like this would do to the reserved list but I won't be. They don't give a poo poo and so long as they keep hiding behind the reserved list, that'll be clear.
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Oct 4, 2022 17:18
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I mean, go ahead and try to show up to something sanctioned with them and see what happens. Otherwise? Nothing changed. You could counterfeit before.
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Oct 4, 2022 17:25
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Aphrodite posted:I mean, go ahead and try to show up to something sanctioned with them and see what happens. Do people actually care enough to meticulously deck check at EDH events?
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Oct 4, 2022 18:51
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Syenite posted:Do people actually care enough to meticulously deck check at EDH events? These cards have a big 30th anniversary stamp as a set symbol.
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Aphrodite posted:These cards have a big 30th anniversary stamp as a set symbol. Obviously don't use THOSE cards, but if you get the nice proxies from MPC or whatever, how hard does the average volunteer judge actually check at an event where everyone has 100+ unique cards?
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Syenite posted:Do people actually care enough to meticulously deck check at EDH events? You would need to be a huge prick to care that someone's edh deck only has "real" cards in it. Edit: Syenite posted:Obviously don't use THOSE cards, but if you get the nice proxies from MPC or whatever, how hard does the average volunteer judge actually check at an event where everyone has 100+ unique cards? MPC cards for anything recent won't have the holo sticker and from what I've read the print quality and texture are obvious to the point where actual authenticity checks aren't needed. For bootleg sites it seems like they will get you past a cursory review double sleeved but if it gets to the point where they are doing the light test you aren't going to fool anyone. And since most games with a judge present are going to be at a store or tournament there will be someone that would be able to authenticate a card. MasterBuilder fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Oct 4, 2022 |
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With the new Un-set, I've been thinking about trying to make my first Commander (and constructed in general) deck in ages with Myra the Magnificent and as much in the way of Attraction support, dice rolls, and maybe stickers* as I can fit while still having it work like a spell-heavy aggro-y deck and not just a random mishmash. * The max of 3 sticker sheets feels pretty limiting, though. In a non-acorn game you're only going to get, what, at most six abilities out of those? Also, the Vorthos in me is sad that there aren't enough of the D&D rulebook style cards to build a functional Commander deck out of them. I find something really funny about the idea of an entire deck that looks like it should belong in a different game entirely. Batterypowered7 posted:Can't wait for the 30th anniversary back to get added to MPCFill so I can just pretend like I spent $$$$$ getting fake duals instead of $ to get fake duals. 
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A creatures color identity is independent of their color, right? Morophon is colorless despite have a WUBRG identity?
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:A creatures color identity is independent of their color, right? Morophon is colorless despite have a WUBRG identity? Yes.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:A creatures color identity is independent of their color, right? Morophon is colorless despite have a WUBRG identity? Correct Color =/= Color Identity Najeela is red colored, and has a color identity of WUBRG Bosh is colorless, and has a color identity of Red
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Roadie posted:With the new Un-set, I've been thinking about trying to make my first Commander (and constructed in general) deck in ages with Myra the Magnificent and as much in the way of Attraction support, dice rolls, and maybe stickers* as I can fit while still having it work like a spell-heavy aggro-y deck and not just a random mishmash. Make sure you are using Pentad Prism/Power Conduit and a Nesting Grounds to get the most value out of your attractions. And definitely go heavy on countermagic, because getting your attractions removed is gonna suck.
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Robviously posted:Congrats MaRo, you reprinted reserve list cards. loving do it for real now you cowards. Not emptyquoting.
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MasterBuilder posted:MPC cards for anything recent won't have the holo sticker and from what I've read the print quality and texture are obvious to the point where actual authenticity checks aren't needed. MPC will also bounce back any order with a Wizards copyright line, or the official MTG card back. No one is mistaking one of those for the real thing unsleeved and even in a sleeve there's a really obvious blank space in the bottom right corner.
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Tarnop posted:MPC will also bounce back any order with a Wizards copyright line, or the official MTG card back. No one is mistaking one of those for the real thing unsleeved and even in a sleeve there's a really obvious blank space in the bottom right corner. Gotta use those special sleeves with a built in frame if you're trying to be extra sneaky.
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Syenite posted:Obviously don't use THOSE cards, but if you get the nice proxies from MPC or whatever, how hard does the average volunteer judge actually check at an event where everyone has 100+ unique cards? Batterypowered7 posted:Gotta use those special sleeves with a built in frame if you're trying to be extra sneaky. but why wouldn't you just use "those" cards? at that point you're using MPC proxies as "counterfeit" cards and attempting to pass them as real, it's just that for some reason you've chosen to use bad "counterfeits" that won't even pass a cursory inspection all anything like special sleeves (in a context where card authenticity matters) will do is get people to look twice, which is the #1 thing you don't want to be doing in contexts where proxying is fine then MPC offers you a lot of fun customizability and presumably you're not having volunteer judges deck check you (this is now though, if/when "official" Wizards-produced proxies become acceptable in some variation of an "official" context you're going to start having some pretty hilarious issues with "fake" "fake" cards)
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LGD posted:but why wouldn't you just use "those" cards? at that point you're using MPC proxies as "counterfeit" cards and attempting to pass them as real, it's just that for some reason you've chosen to use bad "counterfeits" that won't even pass a cursory inspection Oh, I wasn't being serious about passing off fakes as real. I just meant that, at best, you'd have to use special sleeves to cover up the blank bottom of the card. E: https://articles.starcitygames.com/...assassins-creed Can't wait to build a Cloud Strife commander deck! Batterypowered7 fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Oct 5, 2022 |
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Batterypowered7 posted:https://articles.starcitygames.com/...assassins-creed Same but Ezio.
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Tbh if they made a Terra commander that flipped into her Esper form I might actually use it
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Would unironically play an Aerith or Yuna deck
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Heath posted:Tbh if they made a Terra commander that flipped into her Esper form I might actually use it
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Johnny Truant posted:Tribal moogle Dancer Mog where you roll a 1d6 to get random effects every turn
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There are too many FF characters I'd like to see. Specially ones from FFT.
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Cyan acquires counters for every turn he sits in the command zone, and does something different/better depending on how many counters he has when he is cast. Celeste is Mana Drain on a body, like Ertai is to Counterspell. Gau is like a Gruul colored Experiment Kraj, conditionally copying the activated abilities of other creatures you control. Terra is a flip card for sure, dealing a Chandra's Ignition effect upon flipping. Maybe an Enrage trigger on her human side for her to flip?
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If you're playing Green but aren't playing an effect like Paradox Engine/Kinnan, is there a reason to play signets/talismans over the 2cmc mana ramp sorceries? It feels safer to ramp lands than it does to have artifacts out that can get blown up, shut off, or just help fuel an opponent's Dockside. E: Spoony Bard EDH
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Batterypowered7 posted:If you're playing Green but aren't playing an effect like Paradox Engine/Kinnan, is there a reason to play signets/talismans over the 2cmc mana ramp sorceries? It feels safer to ramp lands than it does to have artifacts out that can get blown up, shut off, or just help fuel an opponent's Dockside. If you are in green, your best ramp is usually: • 0-1 CMC artifacts • 1 CMC Dorks • Wild Growth/Utopia Sprawl • Carpet of Flowers • Ancient Tomb After that you get into splash stuff like Dockside, Orcish Lumberjack, Rituals, etc. If you can't use all that for whatever reason, yes, 2 cmc sorcery ramp can be used, prioritizing things that can fetch 2-color lands and things that com in untapped. 2-mana colored rocks are also fine, basically Arcane > Fellwar > Talismans > Signets > Heart > Diamonds. Of the colorless ones, the only one that I really thing is worth considering is Torque, and I'd probably use that before signets. It's got too much upside to skip if you are going that deep. Honestly, worrying about your rocks fueling opposing docksides isn't worth worrying about and mass artifact destruction happens, but it's rare enough and slow enough usually to not matter much.
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Railing Kill posted:Cyan acquires counters for every turn he sits in the command zone, and does something different/better depending on how many counters he has when he is cast. Gau would phase out when you activate Rage, then gets a random ability counter and a +1/+1 counter when he phases back in
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The folks at Commander VS playing cEDH for once: https://youtu.be/MDWsV49RWBg Let's look at them decklists: https://articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/commander-vs-310-the-crew-tries-cedh/
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