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gently caress the... This poll is closed. |
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82 | 42.05% |
| Commanders (really, that's the name?) |
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38 | 19.49% |
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29 | 14.87% |
| Eagles |
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46 | 23.59% |
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Oct 4, 2022 01:07
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what the gently caress is BTT/TWP
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Oct 4, 2022 02:29
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indigi posted:what the gently caress is BTT/TWP They mention sack rate, so maybe it's a variation of WAP?
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Oct 4, 2022 02:34
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What's Wentz soak against replacement?
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Oct 4, 2022 02:38
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indigi posted:what the gently caress is BTT/TWP Paging Blarghz to the thread. E Big time throws, BTT, are passes of the highest end of both difficulty and value. While turnover-worthy plays, TWP, are passes that have a high percentage chance to be intercepted or do a poor job of taking care of the ball and fumbling.
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Oct 4, 2022 10:52
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BiggerBoat posted:Paging Blarghz to the thread. 
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Oct 4, 2022 14:46
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i do not care for the baseballification of stats in the NFL
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Oct 4, 2022 15:47
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It's because they aren't predicative, regression significant, or even possible to truly track. Big time throws could fall incomplete or complete for a myriad of reasons and then change based on personnel. It's the dumbest attempt to make people feel smart in football and everyone just eats it up with a spoon. Just look at N/V. You can make a 10 paragraph post analyzing someone and it gets drowned out immediately by a bunch of morons posting twitter stats. It's awful. Ruined this forum too.
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Oct 4, 2022 15:55
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They feel as useful as roulette analytics
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Oct 4, 2022 16:11
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Doltos posted:It's because they aren't predicative, regression significant, or even possible to truly track. Big time throws could fall incomplete or complete for a myriad of reasons and then change based on personnel. It's the dumbest attempt to make people feel smart in football and everyone just eats it up with a spoon. I’ll go back to posting nothing but gently caress Dallas if that’s still ok.
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Oct 4, 2022 16:16
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Doltos posted:It's because they aren't predicative, regression significant, or even possible to truly track. Big time throws could fall incomplete or complete for a myriad of reasons and then change based on personnel. It's the dumbest attempt to make people feel smart in football and everyone just eats it up with a spoon. I dunno I quite enjoy the back and forth between you and Blarzgh on the topic.
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Oct 4, 2022 16:21
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Mr. Nice! posted:I dunno I quite enjoy the back and forth between you and Blarzgh on the topic. I like it when Blarzgh puts in a lot of time and effort to make a post full of opinion or analysis, backed up by numbers and examples, And then we all look at it and lol and call him an idiot for ever trying to effort post.
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Oct 4, 2022 16:28
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Our whole popular media society trends towards creating simulacrums and then living in the simulacrum. The new football stats go along with that trend
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Oct 4, 2022 16:28
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I've never looked into BIG TIME THROWS or bad throw percentages to see whether they're valuable information or NexGen Junk pimped out by the ghost of Chris Collinsworth, but now I will defend them with my life
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Oct 4, 2022 16:30
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All of the “analysts” said jalen hurts would be bad and he is in fact good so .
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Oct 4, 2022 16:31
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euphronius posted:All of the “analysts” said jalen hurts would be bad and he is in fact good so . Ahh but these same analysts also said Carson Wentz is bad and he is in fact bad.
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Oct 4, 2022 16:41
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It’s just nice to see top tier equally gifted amateur analysis from so many folks in the thread. Helps an outsider learn about these teams.
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Oct 4, 2022 16:42
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I thought Hurts would be good. I posted as such last year. Didn't expect this much of an improvement so soon, but whatever. Time to see if it's sustainable!
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Oct 4, 2022 16:50
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Cartoon Man posted:I’ll go back to posting nothing but gently caress Dallas if that’s still ok. This is always okay and has never not been okay. gently caress the Cowboys.
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Oct 4, 2022 17:06
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My metrics for players consists of winning me super bowls, not gross right wing politics, and mouth feel.
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Oct 4, 2022 20:21
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epic bacon posted:i do not care for the baseballification of stats in the NFL I enjoy it sometimes but it doesn't really fit the way it does with baseball, which is far more easy to isolate measurements of that sort. In football, there are 11 (22) moving parts on every play and on every one of them, just ONE GUY loving up can blow up the whole thing in ways that aren't as simple to diagnose as "that pitcher hung a curve ball right through the middle of the strike zone". With baseball, probably 90% of every outcome comes down to essentially two people that are framed in the center of our TV screen. In football, how do we know if that was a really lovely pass or the WR broke the wrong way or some poo poo? We can isolate some of it but not the same way. blarzgh posted:I've never looked into BIG TIME THROWS or bad throw percentages to see whether they're valuable information or NexGen Junk pimped out by the ghost of Chris Collinsworth, but now I will defend them with my life Well, we'll never really be ascertain their value or true meaning to the game until we can figure out if Dak Prescott is good at them or not. If he rates in the top 5/10, I have a feeling it's a very significant stat. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Oct 5, 2022 |
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Oct 5, 2022 00:02
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So what's the deal with the Cardinals? Why are people discounting then so much this season? Just curious since the unbeaten Eagles are flying there this week and people seem to assume it's an easy W. Main thing I know of them is we traded Ertz to them to give him a chance on a contender and they seemed to fall apart as the season wound down.
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Oct 5, 2022 00:31
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The general buzz on sports radio around the (Philly) region is that the Eagles have been dogshit every time they play in AZ the last few years. I kind of look at this game the same way- the team is good, but there's still room for improvement, and I think the 4-0 record is a little bit misleading, especially with how they almost dropped the Lions game. I'll be a little more convinced that the team is legitimately good seeing how they stack up against Dallas in a few weeks. (gently caress Dallas, btw)
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Oct 5, 2022 00:52
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Off the top of my head, the Eagles have consistently been better than AZ every time they have played them away, but yet they still managed to lose. I don’t think the Cards are particularly good this year, and yet…
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Oct 5, 2022 01:21
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Not NFCE related but a cool article I found about 'back from the dead' QB's that's centered around Geno Smith but also touches on Cunningham and Vick. Also Steve Young. blarzgh might dig it at least. I was surprised not to see Jim Plunkett, Doug Flutie and Doug Williams mentioned in there but I don't think the study went back that far. I thought of Foles too who had a famous TD/INT stat one year under Chip Kelly and then won the Super Bowl but the study is looking at seasons, not short runs like that. Also not conference related but a cool piece of trivia I'm gonna use. Who holds the Bears single season record for TD's and YDS in a single season? No one will get it. Eric Kramer
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Oct 5, 2022 01:27
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iamsosmrt posted:So what's the deal with the Cardinals? Why are people discounting then so much this season? Just curious since the unbeaten Eagles are flying there this week and people seem to assume it's an easy W. The Cardinals average 4 first half points a game, Kliff is a moron, and the entire gameplan is "Kyler, go do something" The Cardinals suck
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Oct 5, 2022 02:55
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BiggerBoat posted:Well, we'll never really be ascertain their value or true meaning to the game until we can figure out if Dak Prescott is good at them or not. If he rates in the top 5/10, I have a feeling it's a very significant stat. This fucker has learned my secret!!!
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Oct 5, 2022 03:22
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BiggerBoat posted:Not NFCE related but a cool article I found about 'back from the dead' QB's that's centered around Geno Smith but also touches on Cunningham and Vick. Also Steve Young. blarzgh might dig it at least. I was surprised not to see Jim Plunkett, Doug Flutie and Doug Williams mentioned in there but I don't think the study went back that far. I thought of Foles too who had a famous TD/INT stat one year under Chip Kelly and then won the Super Bowl but the study is looking at seasons, not short runs like that. My guess was Cutler
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Oct 5, 2022 03:22
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BiggerBoat posted:Not NFCE related but a cool article I found about 'back from the dead' QB's that's centered around Geno Smith but also touches on Cunningham and Vick. Also Steve Young. blarzgh might dig it at least. I was surprised not to see Jim Plunkett, Doug Flutie and Doug Williams mentioned in there but I don't think the study went back that far. I thought of Foles too who had a famous TD/INT stat one year under Chip Kelly and then won the Super Bowl but the study is looking at seasons, not short runs like that. I guessed Sid Luckman because lol Bears quarterbacks
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Oct 5, 2022 04:29
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https://twitter.com/Commanders/status/1577357884899430400?s=20&t=la4Eyq8OOY3NOfAHZGCFBQ Brave as hell for taking that job.
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Oct 5, 2022 12:33
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This is what a competent front office does: https://twitter.com/granthpaulsen/status/1577500375187423232?s=20&t=J4mWDeR99xVVsfRw-uRAYw The Eagles are currently picking ahead of the Commanders.
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Oct 5, 2022 12:36
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Cartoon Man posted:
Now for an added bonus, tell me that's because of the Carson Wentz trade Howie is great and I never understand the majority of the criticism he often takes
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Oct 5, 2022 13:03
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he plays the long game (good+smart) and sports fans want now now now now (dumb+impossible)?
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Oct 5, 2022 13:08
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BiggerBoat posted:Now for an added bonus, tell me that's because of the Carson Wentz trade He’s gradually become more popular even in Philadelphia
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Oct 5, 2022 13:24
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I still think he’s a schmuck that oftentimes gets so “clever” he doesn’t realize he didn’t replace his left foot or did but with something gangrenous
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Oct 5, 2022 13:33
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When he first started years ago he was a boy wonder . That did not mix well with many traditional eagles fans. There was also imho some anti semitism issues boiling under the surface . They have gotten used to him over time tho. Winning a super bowl helped . But then there was a lot of eagles fans who for some reason wanted to keep Wentz over Hurts . Now that in hindsight that issue has resolved and it was clear that howie was right he’s gotten even more good vibes . Pointing out that eagles fans are not a monolith . I am referring tho to the large group of suburban white fans that for better or worse tends to define the eagles fan euphronius fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Oct 5, 2022 |
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Oct 5, 2022 13:38
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Howie is really good at “re-tooling” the roster when their needs to be an overhaul. After periods of sustained success, he seems to struggle in trying to make the right decisions, especially in the draft. They get a little guilty of huffing their own farts before they “stick to the draft board.” Seems to happen cyclically every few years.
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Oct 5, 2022 13:58
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That’s just the way the nfl is tho unless you have Tom Brady .
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Oct 5, 2022 14:02
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euphronius posted:But then there was a lot of eagles fans who for some reason wanted to keep Wentz over Hurts . Man, gently caress This sentence took me back & chilled me to the bones
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Oct 5, 2022 14:05
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euphronius posted:
Ah yes, WIP callers.
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