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# ? Jun 7, 2024 12:42 |
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Seventh Arrow posted:One more thing about Winter Ember, a story beat that makes me every time I think about it. A lot of the game's story and momentum revolves around avenging your family's deaths. Did they die because they had inadvertently wandered into Crime Alley? No, they died because your dad was blackmailing some of the most powerful people in the kingdom. I know that doesn't justify murdering him, but lmao what did he think was going to happen? hahaha perfect! I've gotta wonder though... does your character actually know this, for most of the game? Or do they only find out at the end? Since surely if your character knew about it for a while, they'd just be like, "nahh, you gently caress around you find out. I'm outta here" Also, playing Intravenous has made me regain that old real-time top-down stealth itch that I thought I lost years ago. Are there any other sneaky top-down games on Steam, in the same vein? I imagine none of them will have the classic Splinter Cell sound+light mechanics like Intravenous had (which I was very pleasantly surprised about) but either way, I'm definitely open to suggestions!
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# ? Oct 4, 2022 01:36 |
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Major Isoor posted:hahaha perfect! I've gotta wonder though... does your character actually know this, for most of the game? Or do they only find out at the end? Since surely if your character knew about it for a while, they'd just be like, "nahh, you gently caress around you find out. I'm outta here" You find out about 2/3 of the way through, but I guess Arthur still feels like an injustice was done to his family and the villains aren't very nice anyways. Also the twist at the end is just as dumb - they burned his place down because of an obscure law that dictates that royalty lose their claim to the throne if their skin is burnt. quote:Also, playing Intravenous has made me regain that old real-time top-down stealth itch that I thought I lost years ago. Are there any other sneaky top-down games on Steam, in the same vein? I imagine none of them will have the classic Splinter Cell sound+light mechanics like Intravenous had (which I was very pleasantly surprised about) but either way, I'm definitely open to suggestions! https://store.steampowered.com/app/365770/Volume/
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# ? Oct 4, 2022 03:33 |
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Seventh Arrow posted:You find out about 2/3 of the way through, but I guess Arthur still feels like an injustice was done to his family and the villains aren't very nice anyways. Also the twist at the end is just as dumb - they burned his place down because of an obscure law that dictates that royalty lose their claim to the throne if their skin is burnt. Geez, fair enough. Sounds very weird and entirely avoidable, plot-wise. (So I guess that makes it entirely realistic, given that the whole drama is dumb and could've been avoided? ) Also, cool! Volume looks good - I'll have to keep an eye on it, just in case it gets a discount in the coming weeks, before I crack and buy it. Thanks!
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# ? Oct 4, 2022 03:42 |
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Oh also, I just noticed a couple of stealth games I've been following on Steam have gone on sale. Shadwen and Aragami. Pretty sure Seventh Arrow gave Aragami their tick of approval, so I think I'll pick it up when I get home - especially since it's a pretty good deal. No idea about Shadwen though... I think SA might've posted about it too, but I can't remember. It's cheap as well though, so I can't complain! I'll have to take a closer look at Steam when I get home, in case some other good stealth games I've been interested in have gone on sale
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# ? Oct 5, 2022 03:15 |
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didst thou ring?
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# ? Oct 5, 2022 03:37 |
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Lol
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# ? Oct 5, 2022 03:40 |
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Ah, your stealthgaming senses were tingling! Perfect timing as always Shadwen seems cool though, after reading your post! That time-pausing ability seems cool. Kinda reminds me of Blades of the Shogun in a way, I guess. Welp, sounds like I'm adding two more games to my growing list
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# ? Oct 5, 2022 03:44 |
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Major Isoor posted:Ah, your stealthgaming senses were tingling! Perfect timing as always they were always here, you just didnt notice
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# ? Oct 5, 2022 04:04 |
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Arigami looks cool.
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# ? Oct 5, 2022 04:23 |
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Despite the concerns raised in my review, I've been liking Arigami 2 quite a bit as a pickup stealth game. After you finish the main campaign, you can replay any of the maps and they all have several missions. So it's good if you want a bit of timewaster to do the completionist thing or even if you just want to run around killing ninjas a bit. It has co-op too, if that's your thing.
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# ? Oct 5, 2022 04:36 |
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trying to jack off posted:they were always here, you just didnt notice
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# ? Oct 5, 2022 13:41 |
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Daedalic Presents: A Mimimi Game: Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun: Aiko's Choice: Electric Boogaloo: A Hideo Kojima Jam Ok, it's not really a Kojima game - I just wanted to pile on the absurd subtitles. Aiko's Choice is an expansion to the original Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun and takes place about halfway through that game's story. Just like before, you have control over five specialists who all have their own unique abilities that help you get sneakily through each map. They are:
To me, it was worth it at full price. If it's on sale, fine, but honestly I don't think it's a big deal to pay full price for such enjoyable stealth tactics gameplay. If you liked Blades of the Shogun, I say go for it!
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# ? Oct 9, 2022 18:07 |
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All that hubbub about the price and I just noticed that it's 60% off!
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# ? Oct 9, 2022 18:10 |
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New indie Metal Gear Solid came out last week: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1715350/UNDETECTED/ Dev's trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQnkH_ReZVA
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# ? Oct 10, 2022 00:29 |
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im waiting for the seventh arrow review before i even consider it
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# ? Oct 10, 2022 00:55 |
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Love Stole the Day posted:New indie Metal Gear Solid came out last week: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1715350/UNDETECTED/ I impulse-bought that one as soon as it released but haven't gotten to it yet, but that reminds me to plug UnMetal, a game that I've put a few hours into this weekend and have really enjoyed: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1203710/UnMetal/ I was wary of a parody game because those are usually painfully unfunny but this one's... fine, humor-wise, a lot of the jokes land and the ones that don't just aren't particularly funny but aren't really bad. But the reason I'm plugging it is that it does a really good job of emulating the gameplay of the old MSX Metal Gear games, which to my knowledge no other game has really attempted. If you, like me, played Metal Gear 1 and 2 for the first time in Metal Gear July and wanted something else in that same style this has hit the mark for me so far. Punished Chuck fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Oct 10, 2022 |
# ? Oct 10, 2022 01:05 |
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trying to jack off posted:im waiting for the seventh arrow review before i even consider it
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# ? Oct 10, 2022 01:09 |
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trying to jack off posted:im waiting for the seventh arrow review before i even consider it
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# ? Oct 10, 2022 01:17 |
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trying to jack off posted:im waiting for the seventh arrow review before i even consider it Yeah, pretty much! Although I'm always in the market for stealth games, anything that gets Seventh Arrow's tick of approval is automatically on my radar
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# ? Oct 10, 2022 02:11 |
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Love Stole the Day posted:New indie Metal Gear Solid came out last week: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1715350/UNDETECTED/ oh drat this looks fuckin sick
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# ? Oct 10, 2022 06:57 |
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Seventh Arrow posted:Another aspect to Lily's accompaniment is that her disposition towards you will change depending on whether you go on a murder spree or not (and whether she actually sees you killing anyone). I was stabbing guards left and right and let me tell you, she was downright grouchy about it! Yeah wow, you weren't wrong about this! I initially played through the game without killing anyone and Lily was my best friend, happily tagging along and exchanging stories with Shadwen. I've just started a second playthrough where I'm getting the "kill everyone" achievements, and man yeah Lily just hates you from the start! I mean, "all" I did was stab a guard in front of her, who had been in the process of threatening her over a stolen apple! Now it's all "I hate you" from Lily and veiled threats in return from Shadwen. Definitely a different vibe to my original feel-good sneaky playthrough
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 01:22 |
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Chuck Buried Treasure posted:I impulse-bought that one as soon as it released but haven't gotten to it yet, but that reminds me to plug UnMetal, a game that I've put a few hours into this weekend and have really enjoyed: I played MG1 and 2 for the first time in July too, but I don't get what about this game is more like them than MGS1, at least from the trailer
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# ? Oct 17, 2022 01:35 |
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Undetected It should come as no surprise that your experience with Undetected is going to be heavily influenced by your prior interactions (if any) with the classic Metal Gear games (mind you, the dev did what he could to make it unique). Speaking for myself, I was not a console guy at that time so I was pretty much entirely new to this kind of stealth experience when I fired up Digerati's latest. So what did I think about it? Well, I wasn't crazy about it at first but it kind of grew on me. The story is insane in the *gestures towards all the 70s B-movies* kind of way. In Undetected, you are *checks notes*...a member of the revolutionary group 'Los Desplazados' in the year 2063, when the US and Mexico formed one megacountry, the Mexican-American Federation, or MAF, due to oppressive amounts of climate change and fracking galore. Your name is Tenoch Kaan, and it's up to you and your nifty cyber-eye to rescue the leader of Los Desplazados from the clutches of the ultra-capitalist corporation Cimacorp from the Chicxulub Perpetual Energy Station. Look at all those words! Unfortunately, your handler doesn't yell "KAAAAAAANNNNNN!!!" when you die. Unsurprisingly, your perspective as you sneak around is top-down which (like Winter Ember) takes a bit of getting used to - at least for me. When you lean against a wall, you get a third-person perspective and you can also hit shift to get a first-person view. You can't do anything in these views, though - it's just for scouting and seeing what's around the corner. Something that usually annoys me (and I make no secret of) is a lack of manual saves, but in Undetected, the checkpoints are so frequent that I can live with it. Mind you, sometimes this is because the corridors are tiny and it seems to save every time you transition. You start off stealthing around in the jungle environment, but eventually go deeper into the bowels of the Chicxulub reactor. This gives it an increasing atmosphere of suffocating oppression and claustrophobia, which is very immersive. If you get spotted, the guards are pretty relentless. They will keep chasing after you until either you're dead or you enter a new area - that last part is a bit silly, but I'll pretend it's part of the MGS charm. Although all of your methods of dealing with guards are nonlethal, they're all effective in their own way. Your gun can fire a blinding goo, incapacitating sponge bullets, and a flash which can blind enemies in a cone. You also get an assortment of grenades - decoys, shocks, noise distractors, and the like. The grenades can be a bit fiddly, since they will only fire in the direction you're facing and can be a bit unpredictable, but they nevertheless fit in well with your arsenal and can even the odds in a number of situations. The boss fights were really neat - they're just brief enough to not overstay their welcome, and provide an interesting change to the gameplay loop. Usually they will involve an environmental challenge, the solution to which will be provided with subtle (and sometimes not-so-subtle) hints around the arena. For example, one boss will hide in the tall grass, but the game gives you access to shock grenades that you can use to flush him out in the open. The only exception was the last boss fight, which I feel doesn't give you a lot of feedback and you're left with a lot of trial and error (especially since he can one-shot you). For the rest of the gameplay, there's a temptation to rush through the levels in the hopes of not getting spotted, but this seems like a mistake. Undetected seems to reward a meticulous approach, one where you use all the resources at your disposal. Overall, I would say that if you have fond memories of the early MGS games, then this is a must-buy. For the rest, I think if you're not squeamish about top-down stealth and retro graphics, you should definitely give it a try, sale or no sale.
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# ? Oct 19, 2022 22:21 |
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cool, i'll wishlist that bad boy now
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# ? Oct 20, 2022 00:01 |
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Ah good, the latest Seventh Arrow review is fresh from the printers! Sounds cool - about what I was anticipating, so that's not bad. I did always enjoy MGS2 back in the day (didn't have a PS1, so I didn't play the original until much later) so I'll have to jump on Undetected once I've thinned down my backlog a little more. Personally, I've still got Aragami to go through, from the last sale - so we'll see how that pans out
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# ? Oct 20, 2022 01:18 |
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Yeah, Arigami is good - janky, but great stealth gameplay.
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# ? Oct 20, 2022 01:48 |
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Seventh Arrow posted:Undetected Aye-aye, sir.
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# ? Oct 20, 2022 02:17 |
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As I age I find myself believing that MG2 and MGS1 are by far the best ones so I’m not just joking. Though I might forget until this thread gets bumped when I’m at computer.
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# ? Oct 20, 2022 02:18 |
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Sneak Thief It's garbage.
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# ? Oct 25, 2022 00:11 |
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Seventh Arrow posted:Sneak Thief And all for the low low price of $21.50AUD! Yeah wow, that doesn't even look good, judging from those screenshots... I hope you were able to get a refund
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# ? Oct 25, 2022 00:19 |
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Seventh Arrow posted:Sneak Thief lmfao
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# ? Oct 25, 2022 00:59 |
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# ? Oct 25, 2022 01:05 |
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Major Isoor posted:And all for the low low price of $21.50AUD! Yeah wow, that doesn't even look good, judging from those screenshots... I hope you were able to get a refund It's the first game I've refunded on Steam. Truly dreadful. Everyone giving it a positive review is either lying or insane.
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# ? Oct 25, 2022 01:31 |
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Seventh Arrow posted:It's the first game I've refunded on Steam. Truly dreadful. Everyone giving it a positive review is either lying or insane. Lmao ----------------
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# ? Oct 25, 2022 01:39 |
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Seventh Arrow posted:It's the first game I've refunded on Steam. Truly dreadful. Everyone giving it a positive review is either lying or insane. haha yeah, they're probably dev-owned burner accounts made to praise the game, in the hopes of luring in
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# ? Oct 25, 2022 01:51 |
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# ? Oct 25, 2022 13:04 |
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Started playing The Masterplan, which I had forgotten I bought ages ago, on sale. Not sure what to think yet - I've played a bunch of levels and they've all been pretty simple so far. Stuff like sticking up a convenience store and a bar. It's a little janky with pathfinding and the way doors open/close, so eh it's not the best top-down stealth-puzzly kinda game. But I dunno, it seems alright so far - holding my interest, anyway. I do enjoy holding up the store owner (or a security guard) taking any keys and weapons off them, then locking them in closets. All with my toy pistol, as I haven't bought a real gun yet I hope it gets a little more mechanically complex soon though, otherwise I'm not sure whether I'll be able to get through it all. Since from what I can see, it seems like there are a fair few jobs before the end.
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# ? Jun 7, 2024 12:42 |
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It looks kind of similar to Crookz - The Big Heist, even down to the time period. Have you tried that one?
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