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A Moose posted:So, the first explorer anthology had a few cards for the top tier deck, and a couple of strong tier 2 decks (kalitas, mausoleum wanderer, supreme verdict, elvish mystic Hangarback Walker (this might be good when we get Nykthos), i'm expecting some stuff that plays into the whole phyrexian/brother's war arc thematically to tie into the main set, some stuff targeted towards bringing down the greasefang and lifegain decks in power level, and some stuff that ostensibly are for explorer but also gets targeted towards bringing down how good izzet wizards is in historic. i like the cards you're suggesting; i wouldn't be surprised to see abrupt decay. most of the cards i'd particularly like seeing are likely to be in SoI remastered, yeah
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Lone Goat posted:Great news! They just announced Shadows Over Innistrad Remastered for next year Boxman posted:And another explorer anthology later this year, I believe. sweet 
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Panderfringe posted:Well then i guess I'll be eating my hat or flagellate myself or however one seeks penance They announced it after your post, so you should be taking credit for it. Thanks, Panderfringe!
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flatluigi posted:i'm expecting some stuff that plays into the whole phyrexian/brother's war arc thematically to tie into the main set, some stuff targeted towards bringing down the greasefang and lifegain decks in power level, and some stuff that ostensibly are for explorer but also gets targeted towards bringing down how good izzet wizards is in historic. I really hope its Nykthos and Thing in the Ice, those would bring 2 pretty much brand new archetypes into the tier-1.5 zone with Spirits and UW control and mono-red. People are already playing mono-g ramp and it's a solid tier 2 right now. Karn shutting off vehicles, AND being able to tutor for Unlicensed Hearse means it can sometimes do well against greasefang. a good UR deck would be great too, because they can play the tempo game vs greasefang. Burning or countering greasefang while getting payoff from casting spells, so they don't lose to the midrange plan B For that matter, I kinda hope we don't get abrupt decay because that would be so good in greasefang.
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Oct 4, 2022 17:46
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I would expect nykthos or swiftspear, but not both. they're heavily incentivized to spread out the amount of pioneer staples they introduce into explorer, both to make the anthologies attractive, and to not overwhelm the explorer format and make redundant the efforts to port in hundreds of cards that don't matter as much via remastered sets See also bring to light, mana confluence, boros charm, Sylvan scrying, thespian's stage, etc. Notably, SOI-EMN contains multiple staples itself, like spell queller, emrakul, traverse the ulvenwald, thing in the ice, Lili last hope, selfless spirit, relentless dead...
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Oct 4, 2022 17:51
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 Historic Gates continues to be fun, maybe I'll spend some time with that until the next draft lol
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Lone Goat posted:They announced it after your post, so you should be taking credit for it. My apocalyptic pessimism serves me well
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Oct 4, 2022 18:15
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A Moose posted:I really hope its Nykthos and Thing in the Ice, those would bring 2 pretty much brand new archetypes into the tier-1.5 zone with Spirits and UW control and mono-red. People are already playing mono-g ramp and it's a solid tier 2 right now. Karn shutting off vehicles, AND being able to tutor for Unlicensed Hearse means it can sometimes do well against greasefang. a good UR deck would be great too, because they can play the tempo game vs greasefang. Burning or countering greasefang while getting payoff from casting spells, so they don't lose to the midrange plan B Thing in the Ice taking up a spot in the Anthology only to be re-released later in Shadows over Innistrad Remastered would be hilarious
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Oct 4, 2022 18:42
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drat, I forgot how many good cards SoI had
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Oct 4, 2022 18:52
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eldritch evolution, sigarda's aid, cryptolith rite, Westvale abbey, and my first Commander and my first love, odric lunarch Marshall E: tireless tracker and cryptbreaker too but they're already in arena. E2: Jace unraveler of secrets, Thalia's lieutenant, collective brutality I think?, diregraf colossus
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Oct 4, 2022 19:07
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Thalia's Lieutenant is already in and the terror of CoCo decks
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Eej posted:Thalia's Lieutenant is already in and the terror of CoCo decks Is historic humans fast enough compared to "all my creatures are lords" tribals or resilient enough to beat control?
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Oct 4, 2022 19:22
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Yeah it's good enough, it's basically Explorer Humans (GW) except you get the ever wonderful Esper Sentinel and CoCo-on-a-stick Inquisitor Captain. Who I have not blown Rare WCs on because Alchemy and I probably should cause she's not going anywhere.
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Oct 4, 2022 19:31
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Oct 4, 2022 19:36
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MikeCrotch posted:Is Aether Vial in historic? no and i doubt we'll see it
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Explorer Monowhite Humans is missing Mutavault and Brave the Elements from the Pioneer version. They should put those in the Anthology.
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Oct 4, 2022 19:55
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Anyone have a decklist for this week's Midweek Magic?
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Oct 4, 2022 19:58
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flatluigi posted:no and i doubt we'll see it That would be a fun card specifically and only for historic brawl that said i still want skullclamp for hbrawl even more  and the rest of the spellbombs, and disciple of the vault
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Oct 4, 2022 21:20
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I'm fine not ever seeing skullclamp in historic. I still love that when skullclamp was first spoiled the article pointed out how it was broken as hell. The -1 toughness was supposed to be a downside, originally it was +1/+1!
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Oct 4, 2022 21:59
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Shooting Blanks posted:Anyone have a decklist for this week's Midweek Magic? I tried to make The People's Elbow without spending wildcards (needs more time), and I kept getting my butt kicked. I settled on a Mono-U tempo deck (because I do have a lot of those cards): counterspells, bounce cards, maybe some filter cards, Haughty Djinn, and Tolarian Terror.
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If Mono-B had actually ended up getting refined into an ongoing dominant deck instead of just being the one mono list that always goes nuts for a couple weeks after rotation, I think the first card I would want to investigate would not be Sheoldred, but Invoke Despair. Which, like, for 5cmc untargetable removal, feels like a stupid thing to say. Nonetheless, stapling an off-color removal effect (the enchantment sac) to an effortless 3-for-1 leaves me with an impression that something insideously format-warping could have a chance to pass under the intuitive radar, you know? In the abstract, it's easier for me to imagine (with two sets worth of Sagas in the pool, and so forth) the lists that you'd never even find out about because this one card just completely incinerates their gameplan on-tempo than it is for me to imagine that a zero-protection victory timer is loving everyone up by so rudely requiring... Creature removal.
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Oct 4, 2022 22:16
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Shooting Blanks posted:Anyone have a decklist for this week's Midweek Magic? I saw a very annoying mono-red aggro list that seems to be a common netdeck. Anyways I was playing anvil: Deck 6 Mountain (AKR) 318 2 Tenacious Underdog (SNC) 97 1 Sokenzan, Crucible of Defiance (NEO) 276 1 Takenuma, Abandoned Mire (NEO) 278 2 Virus Beetle (NEO) 128 4 Experimental Synthesizer (NEO) 138 2 Ziatora's Proving Ground (SNC) 261 2 Goldhound (SNC) 108 4 Voltage Surge (NEO) 171 1 Sheoldred, the Apocalypse (DMU) 107 4 Fable of the Mirror-Breaker (NEO) 141 2 Sokenzan Smelter (NEO) 164 4 Oni-Cult Anvil (NEO) 230 2 Ob Nixilis, the Adversary (SNC) 206 4 Sulfurous Springs (DMU) 256 2 Liliana of the Veil (DMU) 97 2 The Cruelty of Gix (DMU) 87 6 Swamp (AKR) 336 1 Weatherlight Compleated (DMU) 242 2 Xander's Lounge (SNC) 260 1 Braids, Arisen Nightmare (DMU) 84 2 Soul Transfer (NEO) 122 2 Reckoner Bankbuster (NEO) 255 1 Karn, Living Legacy (DMU) 1
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The 30th Anniversary Edition is $999? What in the poo poo is that pricing. Edit: Here's the article announcing it. https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/celebrate-30-years-magic-gathering-30th-anniversary-edition-2022-10-04 For $1k you get 4 packs of random, non-tournament legal cards. So not even the whole set. Cool? qbert fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Oct 4, 2022 |
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I would appreciate if someone could take a look at this deck and see if I should change anything around? Deck The draft is here if anyone is interested. Kind of a weird one where Chaplain went pretty late (pick 5) but walls didn't feel easy to come by.
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qbert posted:The 30th Anniversary Edition is $999? What in the poo poo is that pricing. leave that poo poo outta here, this is a beautiful oasis of explorer players and drafters you can talk about it in the general MTG thread in trad games
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I have been playing Historic Selesnya life gain and it's extremely fun but I want to branch out to another deck so I don't get bored. Are there any good historic decks that focus on Collective Company? I love this card and never got to use it when it was standard legal so playing it in Historic is great.
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Rythe posted:I have been playing Historic Selesnya life gain and it's extremely fun but I want to branch out to another deck so I don't get bored. Are there any good historic decks that focus on Collective Company? I love this card and never got to use it when it was standard legal so playing it in Historic is great. Merfolk, humans, and angels are all tribes that play well with CoCo. Gruul aggro plays it sometimes, lists vary more for that.
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kalel posted:leave that poo poo outta here, this is a beautiful oasis of explorer players and drafters I haven't played paper Magic in so long I didn't even realize there was a separate thread for it.
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Shooting Blanks posted:Anyone have a decklist for this week's Midweek Magic? I played this to just gently caress around and had fun. I probably would have been more explicitly mono-black but I didn't have the one-drop Phyrexian guy so I just shoved in some more midrangy poo poo and some dragons because dragons are cool (and can get me either my killed-on-sight Sheoldred or some lil weenie guys, depending on the dragon.) Black Knights are handy for making opposing Sheoldreds mildly less obnoxious. Deck 4 Extract the Truth (SNC) 78 4 Destroy Evil (DMU) 17 3 Cut Down (DMU) 89 4 Invoke Despair (NEO) 101 4 Sheoldred, the Apocalypse (DMU) 107 4 Liliana of the Veil (DMU) 97 4 Tenacious Underdog (SNC) 97 4 Knight of Dusk's Shadow (DMU) 96 2 Junji, the Midnight Sky (NEO) 102 2 Ao, the Dawn Sky (NEO) 2 1 Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire (NEO) 268 4 Caves of Koilos (DMU) 244 4 Scoured Barrens (NEO) 274 4 Plains (HBG) 292 12 Swamp (HBG) 300
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draft #3 After seeing green being wide open early on I fell face first into edit: I know this is just bronze/silver but jesus christ lol  Hope I don't have to play against too many of them in future draft games. Algid fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Oct 5, 2022 |
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Judgy Fucker posted:Merfolk, humans, and angels are all tribes that play well with CoCo. Heck yeah, thanks for pointing me in a good direction, I appreciate it.
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Shooting Blanks posted:Anyone have a decklist for this week's Midweek Magic? Here's what I used: Deck 3 Cut Down (DMU) 89 1 Scheming Fence (SNC) 219 2 Make Disappear (SNC) 49 1 Negate (M20) 69 2 Tenacious Underdog (SNC) 97 1 Soul Transfer (NEO) 122 2 Reckoner Bankbuster (NEO) 255 1 Elspeth Resplendent (SNC) 11 2 Resolute Reinforcements (DMU) 29 4 Raffine, Scheming Seer (SNC) 213 4 Raffine's Tower (SNC) 254 1 Sheoldred, the Apocalypse (DMU) 107 4 The Wandering Emperor (NEO) 42 3 Ao, the Dawn Sky (NEO) 2 1 Kaito Shizuki (NEO) 226 1 Adarkar Wastes (DMU) 243 4 Skybridge Towers (SNC) 256 4 Waterfront District (SNC) 259 2 Caves of Koilos (DMU) 244 1 Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire (NEO) 268 2 Otawara, Soaring City (NEO) 271 1 Takenuma, Abandoned Mire (NEO) 278 2 Obscura Storefront (SNC) 252 1 Phyrexian Missionary (DMU) 27 1 Rona's Vortex (DMU) 63 1 Plains (HBG) 292 1 Island (GRN) 261 2 Swamp (RNA) 262 1 Void Rend (SNC) 230 1 Depopulate (SNC) 10 1 March of Otherworldly Light (NEO) 28 1 Evolved Sleeper (DMU) 93 1 The Raven Man (DMU) 103 It's the Esper Midrange standard deck from mtggoldfish, with minor amendments to swap out the illegal cards for whatever mythics and rares I had on hand that looked good + common taplands instead of the rare slowlands. If you've got painlands use them instead.
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kalel posted:leave that poo poo outta here, this is a beautiful oasis of explorer players and drafters I really like that this thread actually talks about magic cards and playing games of magic The trad games thread…. is not good
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Death of Rats posted:I would appreciate if someone could take a look at this deck and see if I should change anything around? Deck You could add a swamp and splash for tribute to urborg, probably cut a shore up because there's only two creatures you're interested in protecting. Either that cut the black entirely and play all untapped lands, I don't think kicking your one copy of sleeper is worth risking mana stumbles.
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Algid posted:How do you mirror that effect at all? Unless you mean it's the exact same anthem effect as her old card except with domain on both sides? no, i mean "creatures your opponents control get -1/-1 for each basic land type your opponents control" Elesh Norn seems all about mono color purity
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Buff/debuff was already done by the first card, I think this one will be something to do with taxing/discounting "Artifact spells and creature spells you cast cost {1} less to cast. Nonartifact, noncreature spells your opponents cast cost {1} more to cast."
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little munchkin posted:You could add a swamp and splash for tribute to urborg, probably cut a shore up because there's only two creatures you're interested in protecting. Thanks for the advice. I'll probably take the Tribute plan as I don't think the second Shore Up is anywhere near as useful.
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Shooting Blanks posted:Anyone have a decklist for this week's Midweek Magic? I got sick of aggro decks and built this: code:
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Shooting Blanks posted:Anyone have a decklist for this week's Midweek Magic? 90% of standard mono white midrange is from SNC, so I took that and made a few substitutions quote:Deck
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Alchemy changes, some tweaks to SNC cards that likely won't matter for constructed, but they're also doing flashback SNC draft using the tweaked cards (and maybe the alchemy cards too?) in a week. Also the nerfed cards that just rotated out of Standard (Luminarch, Faceless Haven, Goldspan, etc) get un-nerfed for Historic. https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/alchemy-rebalancing-october-6-2022 I think this is the full spoiler for the DMU alchemy cards? https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/alchemy-dominaria
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