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Leper Go-getter
Nov 7, 2010

quote:

Whoa, whoa, you gotta be careful with wizards. I pissed off a time wizard and now all my work shifts take forever but my free time just zips by

Your conscius self agreed to the contract, we hope you will settle into your role at Lumen.

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Empty Sandwich
Apr 22, 2008

goatse mugs

BrigadierSensible posted:

"Hey young BrigadierSensible, you know that's the most expensive and sought after real estate in town? Coz people are literally DIEING to get in there :dadjoke:"

Q: How many dead people are there in that cemetery?
A: All of them.

PITY BONER
Oct 18, 2021
Sunday, October 16th, is the start date for the CCP's National Congress.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-hold-20th-communist-party-congress-starting-oct-16-state-media-2022-08-30/

quote:

China sets October start for congress seen as Xi coronation
BEIJING, Aug 30 (Reuters) - China's ruling Communist Party will hold its five-yearly congress beginning on Oct. 16, with Xi Jinping poised to secure an historic third leadership term and cement his place as the country's most powerful leader since Mao Zedong.
I like the term "coronation" here, because it's so apt for what Xi has been planning for himself.

Any predictions about what will happen during the congress? Guesses? Fanfic? Some people are still on the fence, not really sure if Xi will make himself the new Mao. Others definitely believe he's going to do it.

If he crowns himself king, I don't know how much that will change China in the short- or long-term. Under Xi, China's trajectory has been similar to pissing on the side of the bowl rather than in the center of the water. Elegant and compassionate, but ultimately delivers the same result. Even if Xi steps down, I'm also in the group that thinks he'll just stick one of his henchmen into the position, changing nothing. His years of deleting people for "corruption" have swept many of political and oligarch class away to where they can't harm him. As much as the Falun Gong newspapers want to promote it, I don't see any sort of underground oligarch movement or slow-cooking coup ever coming to push him out of power.

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

Release 30 million imported sparrows to replace the ones killed by Mao?

MrMoo fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Oct 5, 2022

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

PITY BONER posted:

Sunday, October 16th, is the start date for the CCP's National Congress.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-hold-20th-communist-party-congress-starting-oct-16-state-media-2022-08-30/

I like the term "coronation" here, because it's so apt for what Xi has been planning for himself.

Any predictions about what will happen during the congress? Guesses? Fanfic? Some people are still on the fence, not really sure if Xi will make himself the new Mao. Others definitely believe he's going to do it.

If he crowns himself king, I don't know how much that will change China in the short- or long-term. Under Xi, China's trajectory has been similar to pissing on the side of the bowl rather than in the center of the water. Elegant and compassionate, but ultimately delivers the same result. Even if Xi steps down, I'm also in the group that thinks he'll just stick one of his henchmen into the position, changing nothing. His years of deleting people for "corruption" have swept many of political and oligarch class away to where they can't harm him. As much as the Falun Gong newspapers want to promote it, I don't see any sort of underground oligarch movement or slow-cooking coup ever coming to push him out of power.

How it goes is either very smoothly or very not smoothly. Hard to imagine any middle ground that doesn't very quickly swing one way or the other.

If/when he does step down and promote a henchman, the same thing will happen as any other time any other leader of China has done that, which is the big timer will start on how long before his influence is neutralised and he is added to the collection of former leaders smiling unconvincingly on that bus during annual parades.

Interesting question is: if things do go smoothly, how long is he planning on staying? Sure, absolute power and all that, but like a lot of world leaders these days, dude is old.

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



Make no mistake. Xi is planning to stay there til death. For someone like him, a life spent on reaching the top of the pyramid with no interest for what you actually do there or in any other station, there is nothing of worth anywhere else.

2nd Amendment
Jun 9, 2022

by Pragmatica
It'd say Peng Liyuan is the shadow behind the throne but we already went past that part of the story with the Bo Xilai narrative.

url
Apr 23, 2007

internet gnuru

ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

Make no mistake. Xi is planning to stay there til death. For someone like him, a life spent on reaching the top of the pyramid with no interest for what you actually do there or in any other station, there is nothing of worth anywhere else.

I read something saying he'd probably have a swing at Taiwan and stepdown in '27. But, it seems naive to think he would be safe outside office, so I don't think retirement is really an option.

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe
He'll stay until he picks a successor and retires or someone can actually build any kind of factional strength without losing their head.

2nd Amendment
Jun 9, 2022

by Pragmatica

url posted:

I read something saying he'd probably have a swing at Taiwan and stepdown in '27. But, it seems naive to think he would be safe outside office, so I don't think retirement is really an option.

The ancient monks of the West have a saying, "Live by the sword; die by the sword"

url
Apr 23, 2007

internet gnuru

2nd Amendment posted:

The ancient monks of the West have a saying, "Live by the sword; die by the sword"

Did they have 36 Chambers tho? Because if not, I betting on the Wutang to win the day!

E: I've done worse snipes

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

PITY BONER posted:

Sunday, October 16th, is the start date for the CCP's National Congress.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-hold-20th-communist-party-congress-starting-oct-16-state-media-2022-08-30/

I like the term "coronation" here, because it's so apt for what Xi has been planning for himself.

Any predictions about what will happen during the congress? Guesses? Fanfic? Some people are still on the fence, not really sure if Xi will make himself the new Mao. Others definitely believe he's going to do it.

If he crowns himself king, I don't know how much that will change China in the short- or long-term. Under Xi, China's trajectory has been similar to pissing on the side of the bowl rather than in the center of the water. Elegant and compassionate, but ultimately delivers the same result. Even if Xi steps down, I'm also in the group that thinks he'll just stick one of his henchmen into the position, changing nothing. His years of deleting people for "corruption" have swept many of political and oligarch class away to where they can't harm him. As much as the Falun Gong newspapers want to promote it, I don't see any sort of underground oligarch movement or slow-cooking coup ever coming to push him out of power.

Just loving lol if you pin your hope on oligarchs

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

His Divine Shadow posted:

Just loving lol if you pin your hope on oligarchs

Variety (in which interchangeable powerful old dude is at the top) is the spice of life.

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.

Tomn posted:

There are at least a couple of old Chinese stories about people who married ghosts and lived happily ever after, just putting that out there.

There's also an Insane Clown Posse song about it and yet I still don't believe it to be a valid way to seek happiness

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own
Xi becomes dear leader, Zero COVID policy remains drat the expense.

China is gonna get bodied if they open up, only to hear China analysts say, "See, Zero COVID doesn't work!"

Okuteru fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Oct 6, 2022

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Just heard about the Thai day care mass shooting. 24 preschoolers killed. Jesus Christ. I will never understand how anyone can deliberately harm a child.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
I know people will make fun of me but one of my apartments in China was actually haunted - we had it super cheap, I actually saw a ghost there, the Xinjiang girl I was dating wouldn't spend the night after a few nights, and everyone that lived there (including me) always ended up moving out quickly. I'm sure I've typed up these stories here but gently caress that place, glad it was cheap but was happy to get out of there when I did. also it ultimately cost me time spent with a pretty hot Xinjiang girl so gently caress you, ghosts in that apartment

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

McGavin posted:

Just heard about the Thai day care mass shooting. 24 preschoolers killed. Jesus Christ. I will never understand how anyone can deliberately harm a child.
why are you posting this here

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
lol believing in ghosts.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

Vegetable posted:

why are you posting this here

its general east and se asia thread really isnt it? peeps do japanposting and koreaposting, seems reasonable to thaipost

anyways, who knows what goes on in the mind of a cop (prolly fascism i guess)

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

bob dobbs is dead posted:

its general east and se asia thread really isnt it? peeps do japanposting and koreaposting, seems reasonable to thaipost

:yeah:

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

bob dobbs is dead posted:

its general east and se asia thread really isnt it? peeps do japanposting and koreaposting, seems reasonable to thaipost

anyways, who knows what goes on in the mind of a cop (prolly fascism i guess)

Grand Fromage posted:

This thread is for shitposting about Bad China (the PRC, Vancouver), Good China (Taiwan, Hong Kong, assorted diaspora communities), Real China (Korea), and Safe China (Japan). You've probably read the previous threads so you know what's up. Good things are also welcome!

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
well I learned about it, not entirely happy about it but I did learn about it, so thanks for posting it here I guess

also I will always lol about Vancouver being bad china. it's just so true lol

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


My OP OPinion is the thread is focused on the Four Chinas but southeastasiaposting is also fine. They certainly are as much in China's cultural sphere as Korea or Japan and we post about them all the time too

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Maybe just rename this the Great East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere thread

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I think you're forgetting that everything is Chinese territory. This thread is the 69 dash line.

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin
Can you name a country that isn’t China? I know I can’t

Stink Billyums
Jul 7, 2006

MAGNUM

thetoughestbean posted:

Can you name a country that isn’t China? I know I can’t

Vatican City!

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin

Stink Billyums posted:

Vatican City!

That’s only a matter of time. Let’s get a Chinese Pope

sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost
Is Hong Kong still considered Good China or is that status under review given recent developments there?

obviously this is not the fault of HKers :(

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

sticksy posted:

Is Hong Kong still considered Good China or is that status under review given recent developments there?

obviously this is not the fault of HKers :(

It's the direction by Team Blue, which must be in the majority by now due to exodus and immigration.

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
i thought taiwan was best china.

Tomn
Aug 23, 2007

And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands
Considering the BNO visa it might become necessary to define parts of the UK at least as Bad Food China.

(Seriously almost every Chinese person I’ve met here, HK or otherwise, complains about the food)

Edit: He’ll, *I* would like to complain about the food here, and not just the Chinese food. Going from Hong Kong’s enormous variety at affordable prices to England’s “Everything is burgers, fish and chips, or curry at the low low price of an arm and a leg” was a wrench.

Tomn fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Oct 6, 2022

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

thetoughestbean posted:

Can you name a country that isn’t China? I know I can’t

pre-hyperwar finland

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Vegetable posted:

Maybe just rename this the Great East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere thread

that has been a title at some point

ili
Jul 26, 2003


sticksy posted:

Is Hong Kong still considered Good China or is that status under review given recent developments there?

obviously this is not the fault of HKers :(

Definitely part of bad china. Plenty of the honkies I know won't go back to live there any more with some reluctant to even go there to visit family. It was trending downwards for a long while but the 2020 crackdown and mask off authoritarianism really shook some people pretty hard.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I ate enough roast duck and goose to permanently leave a Good Hong Kong in my heart.

I would feel bad demoting it since it's not the fault of Hong Kongers that they've been oppressed to oblivion.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
I feel all this talk about the goodness and badness of the Chinas is ignoring Macau.

Casino towns deserve recognition!

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

The Great Autismo! posted:

I know people will make fun of me but one of my apartments in China was actually haunted - we had it super cheap, I actually saw a ghost there,
Your apartment probably had bad ventilation and you narrowly escaped death by carbon monoxide poisoning.

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thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin

Cugel the Clever posted:

Your apartment probably had bad ventilation and you narrowly escaped death by carbon monoxide poisoning.

Nah, it was just the specter of communism

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