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This is almost as surprising a decision as Biden's weed declaration. https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1578109819491258369 Senator from Nebraska quitting in the middle of his term to go work at the University of Florida? Governor will appoint a replacement. It's too close to the election for a special election, so they will have a special election in 2024.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Biden is de-scheduling weed, pardoning everyone convicted of federal weed charges, and asking states to do the same.  Also, nice
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Oct 6, 2022 21:04
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https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1578096090020446209?s=46&t=oczDDryhrWPFKttENsPQ6A Annual “FBI agents decide to try and influence an election” season has commenced.
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Oct 6, 2022 21:06
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:This is almost as surprising a decision as Biden's weed declaration. So does this mean there’s currently no longer a tie in the senate with 99 senators and 50 Dems? Oracle fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Oct 7, 2022 |
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Oct 6, 2022 21:06
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selec posted:https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1578096090020446209?s=46&t=oczDDryhrWPFKttENsPQ6A Yay. A teaser for what will get rammed down our throats in 2023 by conservative media after the GOP take over Congress.
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Oct 6, 2022 21:09
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Oracle posted:So does this mean there’s no longer a tie in the senate with 99 senators and 50 Dems? For whatever short window there is between Sasse retiring and the governor appointing a successor, yes. Sasse isn't retiring today from what I can see. I'm sure it will be planned for minimal time between senators.
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Oct 6, 2022 21:09
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Do we call him Doctor’s rear end or Professor’s rear end
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Oct 6, 2022 21:12
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Tayter Swift posted:Do we call him Doctor’s rear end or Professor’s rear end He's taking an admin job as head of the University, so neither.
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Oct 6, 2022 21:33
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Tayter Swift posted:Do we call him Doctor’s rear end or Professor’s rear end Dean's rear end
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Oct 6, 2022 21:43
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:This is almost as surprising a decision as Biden's weed declaration. The last thing sasse did was give one of the first speeches after Jan 26 and ask us all to go shovel our neighbors driveway.
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Oct 6, 2022 21:53
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Eric Cantonese posted:Dean's rear end rear end Dean’s rear end
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Oct 6, 2022 21:54
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:He's taking an admin job as head of the University, so neither. Don't know Nebraska politics was he facing a serious challenge or getting out ahead of a scandal? It's odd to give up a gravy train like that, though I guess being dean of a major school is an easier gravy train.
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Oct 6, 2022 21:56
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Bird in a Blender posted:Is the last part that much of an issue now? Weed is legal in 19 states, a lot of this apparatus exists already. I would think enough states have gone through the trial and error of legalization that the feds could figure it out. It's a massive issue. Most of the federal agencies have been unable to do much of any prep without a legislative mandate. The states are no better at regulating the incredibly overpopulated VC-infested market of cannabis products than they are at individually regulating other less messy categories like land use. Both in terms of what's on the books and what's actually enforced (two massively different things), the state regulatory systems aren't even competent to, for example, handle pesticide regulation, heavy metals(a big issue in cannabis), adulteration issues, and testing fraud in just the agricultural product. That's not touching manufacturing compliance, interstate commerce, international certs, ag subsidies, marketing issues, FDA product classification and related labeling regs, or IP, to start. Each of those could be several paragraphs of how companies are currently flaunting and/or capturing state law, let alone any potential federal framework- and any individual regulatory issue has at least seven figures of lobbying on each side of it. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Oct 6, 2022 |
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Oct 6, 2022 21:57
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Jaxyon posted:Don't know Nebraska politics was he facing a serious challenge or getting out ahead of a scandal? It's odd to give up a gravy train like that, though I guess being dean of a major school is an easier gravy train. Nope. He just finished his first term too, so its not like he's been there forever. Plus, he was elected in his early 40's. And not sure what series of events led to him being approached by the University of Florida. His next election isn't until 2026 and he was expected to cruise. This kind of came out of nowhere.
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Oct 6, 2022 21:58
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...I feel like I've heard some Florida gossip about this thing, I'll ask the state/uni grapevine.
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Oct 6, 2022 22:04
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I doubt it's scandal as it's for the job of Presidency so I don't think Florida would just invite that in wholesale (but I mean... it is Florida). I'm assuming it's just money.
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Oct 6, 2022 22:15
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BonoMan posted:I doubt it's scandal as it's for the job of Presidency so I don't think Florida would just invite that in wholesale (but I mean... it is Florida). It is probably just money. The current President makes about 6x as much as a U.S. Senator. Florida has some wild salaries for University Presidents. Just a weird series of events that lead to a new Senator in a lifetime safe seat in Nebraska to resign his seat in order to be President of a University in Florida. Was Florida reaching out to sitting Senators? Was he job searching while running for re-election?
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Oct 6, 2022 22:20
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yeah that's why i'm asking because, because i thought that was a lifetime seat too you can make more as a senator indirectly than you'll make as a univisity president directly, i'd imagine
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Oct 6, 2022 22:25
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BonoMan posted:I doubt it's scandal as it's for the job of Presidency so I don't think Florida would just invite that in wholesale (but I mean... it is Florida). According to the article I read (don't remember if it's the Politico one from the Tweet), Sasse is a former university president and has sought other jobs in academic administration in the past. Also, while he is a reliable R vote, he is one of the 7 who voted to convict Trump, and he's a pretty regular critic of senate dysfunction. So maybe he genuinely wants a change of pace and scenery. The job of a university president is building the endowment and representing the institution, so it's basically the same sort of fundraising and glad-handing one does as a senator.
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Oct 6, 2022 22:25
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Ben Sasse used to be president of Midland University. He's also put out occasional articles in publications like the Atlantic about education. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/student-loans-forgiveness-higher-ed/639438/ So, to me, it's not totally weird that he'd become a university president again. It is weird to leave his senate term again, but maybe being in the GOP right now kind of sucks unless you're really a nutcase radical. Or he has weird visions about reshaping the youth into his kind of conservatism. EDIT: PeterWeller beat me to every point. 
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Oct 6, 2022 22:26
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Nope. He just finished his first term too, so its not like he's been there forever. Plus, he was elected in his early 40's. I don't recall if he was in the House, but if all he did was serve a full term in the Senate then he's qualified for his full congressional pension.
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Oct 6, 2022 22:29
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lol state government here has been refusing to legalize it in any form or fashion citing that they're just waiting for Federal to do it, wonder what excuse they'll switch to now
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Epic High Five posted:lol state government here has been refusing to legalize it in any form or fashion citing that they're just waiting for Federal to do it, wonder what excuse they'll switch to now It's still not federally legal that would take congress.
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Oct 6, 2022 22:44
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American teens continue to love vaping tobacco products and (inexplicably) chewing tobacco. ~15% of high-schoolers are regular e-cigarette users. 1 in 4 high-schoolers who have ever used an e-cig use them daily. Nearly 90% of them use flavored tobacco products. 9% of high-schoolers have used chewing tobacco/"chaw"/"smokeless tobacco". https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1578138894247280641 quote:About 2.55 million middle and high schoolers in the United States reported using e-cigarettes, an increase of 21.5% from those who reported using those products last year, a new federal study shows.
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Oct 6, 2022 22:53
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:American teens continue to love vaping tobacco products and (inexplicably) chewing tobacco. It's going to take generations to claw this back, and a lot of work and a series of consistent Dem administrations, too. Chewing tobacco's popular because it's got context-laden addiction behavior cues, plus there's a persistent false belief that it's safe because it's not burnt.
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Discendo Vox posted:It's going to take generations to claw this back, Vaping is down about 50% from 2019 among youth.
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Oct 6, 2022 23:14
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Epic High Five posted:lol state government here has been refusing to legalize it in any form or fashion citing that they're just waiting for Federal to do it, wonder what excuse they'll switch to now Won't they just use the "Fed overreach! State's rights!" nonsense that plays so well?
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On Terra Firma posted:Vaping is down about 50% from 2019 among youth. According to the article, it is because of a change in definition and issues collecting data during the pandemic: quote:CDC officials cautioned against comparing the results of the 2022 survey with those of recent years because of changes in data collection procedures during the coronavirus pandemic.
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Oct 6, 2022 23:28
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BonoMan posted:I doubt it's scandal as it's for the job of Presidency so I don't think Florida would just invite that in wholesale (but I mean... it is Florida). Isn’t the governor of Florida taking a case to the supreme court to make it so that university faculty do not have first-amendment protections while teaching? Maybe he’s being positioned to help deprive people of their rights.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:According to the article, it is because of a change in definition and issues collecting data during the pandemic: That's why I pointed to 2019 and not the last few years. This is the year everyone is back in school and back to ::big loving finger quotes:: "normal". A 50% drop in use (definition of use hasn't changed) over just a few years is quite significant.
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Sasse has no connection to UF or Florida in general as far as I can see, so maybe he just wants to live in Gainesville?  It's not that bad a town, although presumably a lot less fun if you're not a student.Shooting Blanks posted:I did not see that one coming.
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Discendo Vox posted:Chewing tobacco's popular because it's got context-laden addiction behavior cues, I ask because chaw is loving nasty and I've never met a young person or even middle-aged peer who doesn't view it as a gross blight, but maybe there's a PornHub category for "Woman, Skoal".
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:American teens continue to love vaping tobacco products and (inexplicably) chewing tobacco. Chew/Dip is huge among the Carhartt, pocket utility knife, Tractor Supply Country kids living in the burbs.
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Oct 7, 2022 01:02
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Zachack posted:What does this mean? It was loving everywhere in my Michigan school in the 90s. Disgusting Mountain Dew bottles with vile black fluid laying everywhere
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A lot of kids used to get started smoking by stealing cigarettes from their parents. Is it just absurdly easy to buy nicotine vape cartridges and chewing tobacco underage now? I can't imagine that most of them are stealing Juul pods and chaw from their parents and they would need a lot of product for ~14% + ~9% of teens to be using them regularly/daily.
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Medullah posted:It was loving everywhere in my Michigan school in the 90s. Disgusting Mountain Dew bottles with vile black fluid laying everywhere Interesting that they used Mountain Dew, in SoCal it was all Diet Coke cans. Gotta stay camera ready!
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Zachack posted:What does this mean? Just that when someone develops an addictive behavior, the context or the actions of the behavior can become a sort of triggering and compulsory ritual, which for some people serves as a reinforcing element that strengthens the addiction - this often becomes a sort of "culture" around use. Someone who fixates on the physical aspects of chaw because it's what they're exposed to will struggle to swap to other products. Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Is it just absurdly easy to buy nicotine vape cartridges and chewing tobacco underage now? I can't imagine that most of them are stealing Juul pods and chaw from their parents and they would need a lot of product for ~14% + ~9% of teens to be using them regularly/daily. On the e-cig front, the whole tech's designed to be really easy to start up and sell and the industry built out a huge "mom and pop" middle market as an interfering constituency. In practice, the lack of barriers to entry means there's a bazillion ways to sell vapes, including to children, and generally flaunt the law. FDA's sending "you're doing blatantly illegal things" warning letters to four or five vape companies practically daily, and it's barely making a dent. to wit: https://ejuice.deals/collections/candy-king Some of the brands on this storefront will be from overseas, a bunch will be from common white label sellers, and many, many more will be "startups" run out of storage units and the like. There are a lot of physical retail stores, and a lot more digital storefronts. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Oct 7, 2022 |
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I figured it out: Kids love comic book movies, especially Iron Man. Robert Downey Jr. played Iron Man. Robert Downey Jr. also starred in the 2020 version of Doctor Doolittle. Doctor Doolittle in the stories was always having a pinch of snuff from his snuff box. Snuff, while not chaw, is very easy to think of as chaw-related. After seeing the movie those kids would read Doctor Doolittle and be introduced to snuff. I'd be willing to bet there has been a commensurate decrease in rear end-eating (which I have been told young people are or were into) after being exposed to the Pushmi-pullyu, assuming one of those was in the movie too.
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Jaxyon posted:Don't know Nebraska politics was he facing a serious challenge or getting out ahead of a scandal? It's odd to give up a gravy train like that, though I guess being dean of a major school is an easier gravy train. My guess is that he just hates the senate. He's boring as gently caress and a true traditional Conservative, and probably hates whatever the gently caress the party is becoming. Sees a comfy job, takes the opportunity. Although a juicy scandal would be rad as hell. Edit and after playing Uni president and collecting the salary for half a decade he could probably run for senate again but in Florida if he wanted. skylined! fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Oct 7, 2022 |
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Discendo Vox posted:On the e-cig front, the whole tech's designed to be really easy to start up and sell and the industry built out a huge "mom and pop" middle market as an interfering constituency. In practice, the lack of barriers to entry means there's a bazillion ways to sell vapes, including to children, and generally flaunt the law. FDA's sending "you're doing blatantly illegal things" warning letters to four or five vape companies practically daily, and it's barely making a dent. The companies making disposables, which is pretty much all kids are using, aren't "mom and pop" shops. They're fly by night manufacturers operating out of southern china that just rebrand whenever they need to slip under the radar. They're very very different from most shops that sell liquid by the bottle for refillable tank based systems. It's very easy to lump them together but the set ups and the people who use them are vastly different. Even Puff bar is in a whole other classification compared to Juul even though at a glance they look and operate very similarly. I know this just seems like dumb semantics because nicotine is nicotine but the way all the segments work is vastly different from one another and lumping them all together is a really big mistake. If a regulatory agency can't differentiate between something used for a mod versus a disposable synthetic nicotine puff bar knock off then they're going to be pretty much useless at doing what they're supposed to be doing.
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