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Miles Vorkosigan posted:The train goblins had better still be alive and they sure as hell better have little top hats By Vic3's time period they'll already have settled another planet and migrated there for more space to do Science.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Paradox games are always alt-history anyway, especially when it comes to Sweden. lol I also look forward a lot to a Divergences Victoria 3. I liked the Vicky 2 mod a lot
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Miles Vorkosigan posted:The train goblins had better still be alive and they sure as hell better have little top hats I think in the current plan for the vic3 era setup, the train goblins are dead but the allclan is alive and owns at least half of the Eastern serpentspine, so there's a nice dedicated tag for the unmitigated chaos of running a giant underground goblin technocracy. The train dwarves are pretty successful though. I dunno how Vic 3 handles inland trade routes, so I'm curious what the outcome is if you own the only (underground) land connection between two regions. Realistically, they'd be making a lot of money charging tarrifs and running freight.
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I’m excited for this stupid game
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buglord posted:I’m excited for this stupid game i'm trying not to be
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:i'm trying not to be same op Last time I got really hyped was for Spore and that traumatized me into cultivating a feeling of monastic detachment for cool games so I could never be hurt again
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buglord posted:same op last time for me was imperator
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I am excited for this game and even if it sucks I am excited for making fun of it.
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Hellioning posted:I am excited for this game and even if it sucks I am excited for making fun of it. 
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I remember theyt alked about making Lorent the tutorial country with the ghost of Loriel as the tutorial helper.
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Torrannor posted:I'm extremely looking forward to Vic 3 Anbennar. Looking how the world developed since the (re)discovery of Aelantir alone would be worth it to download a Vic 3 Anbennor, not to mention the gameplay of course. All this Anbennar talk got me curious and had me redownload EU4 to check it out. Here's the thing: The last DLC I got was Cradle of Civilization and I haven't really played EU4 since about that time. I was not even remotely prepared to parse all the new or otherwise half-remembered mechanics, let alone trying to figure out what the heck is happening in the mod lore.
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Popoto posted:20 days Holy poo poo
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I’m worried the game’s going to turn out good, but thanks to word of mouth even people who don’t know anything about it end up parroting nerd outrage about it being dumbed down.
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Dayton Sports Bar posted:I’m worried the game’s going to turn out good, but thanks to word of mouth even people who don’t know anything about it end up parroting nerd outrage about it being dumbed down. this would be extremely funny, because say what you will about Victoria 2 it turns out to be extremely not complex, with a ton of “obvious and best” decisions instead of, well, decisions
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Lady Radia posted:this would be extremely funny, because say what you will about Victoria 2 it turns out to be extremely not complex, with a ton of “obvious and best” decisions instead of, well, decisions Meaningful decisions with well documented consequences listed in in-game tooltips are for casuals.
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Eiba posted:But esoteric knowledge is the best kind of complexity! It means I can make numbers go up reliably while laughing at the poor rubes who aren't enlightened though to know the one secret path to success! hnnngh this is almost a Reddit paradox post
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my favorite outrage would be if vicky 3 was too hard for reddit gamers and they claimed it was "artifical difficulty" that they cant walk back and forwards into calais and kent to wipe out millions of men
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Broke: Waiting for the Anbennar mod for Victoria 3 Woke: Waiting for the Victoria 3 mod for Imperator Rome
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Man if you don’t think there won’t be AI exploits in this game. People are going to find the walking men equivalent in minutes, as they always do
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CharlestheHammer posted:Man if you don’t think there won’t be AI exploits in this game. People are going to find the walking men equivalent in minutes, as they always do
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Lady Radia posted:hnnngh this is almost a Reddit paradox post Add some racisl slurs and it's basically the /vst/ take on every mainstream strategy game made in the past decade.
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Mantis42 posted:Add some racisl slurs and it's basically the /vst/ take on every mainstream strategy game made in the past decade. Even more relevant for the RPG genre. I've seen people often talk how Victoria 2 is actually extremely deep and has this cool systems. I am yet to see someone explain how those cool systems affect your decisions so that you can't turn any country into aa great power with the same very basic strategy.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Paradox games are always alt-history anyway, especially when it comes to Sweden. The most Danish opinion hahaha
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:The most Danish opinion hahaha
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But the achievement says Sweden is not overpowered and Paradox would never lie to me.
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Newest Dev Diary on Data Visualization: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/victoria-3-dev-diary-61-data-visualization.1546730/ Alternate title: How I Killed Pie Charts and Why They Had It Coming
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OPAONI posted:A War of the Worlds DLC would be rad.
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For all the "grain tax" memes I swear every screenshot and video I've seen, there's a grain shortage in the market. It's making me itch. Just build more farms, dammit! Having cheap grain seems like national stability 101.
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CrypticTriptych posted:For all the "grain tax" memes I swear every screenshot and video I've seen, there's a grain shortage in the market. It's making me itch. Just build more farms, dammit! Having cheap grain seems like national stability 101. When the last bank is destitute, the last share market rock-bottom, the last telephone factory shuttered - only then you will realise that one cannot invest grain
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Sweden's manpower in EU4 is the most disproportionate by far out of all countries in the game. It literally starts off with 60 times as much manpower relative to its historical population as Korea. Probably should've been an AI only bonus, so the dumpy AI can break free from Denmark more often than not. Doesn't Sweden get even more freebies when they declare for independence now?
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Sweden's manpower in EU4 is the most disproportionate by far out of all countries in the game. It literally starts off with 60 times as much manpower relative to its historical population as Korea. Because it's not a sim and its the best Pdox can do to get their game to consistently reproduce the historic outcome without direct player control, to satisfy the player base yelling about "realism". I fully agree with you on that everything about the historical Swedish empire, was improbable, against the odds, inhumane, sacrificial, and time and time again a stupid, irresponsible, gamble at the total mercy of luck. Any accurate analytical simulation of nation state level warfare in the timeperiod would need several orders of magnitude more interacting factors, a great many factors which could not, and can not, be justifiably quantified and even less now so far removed. Paradox makes games
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The Swedish empire was jingoistic. It was aggressive. It was colonial. It was self obsessed. It was evil. It started wars and sacrificed people everywhere in the name of moving land borders under the rule of Swedish despots. It did it against god, justice, statistical probability, and common sense for 200 odd years, and it eventually lost it all. There was nothing to make the rivers of blood worth it. This is what the Swedish empire amounted to. The strangeness is, it did do it.
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Because it's not a sim and its the best Pdox can do to get their game to consistently reproduce the historic outcome without direct player control, to satisfy the player base yelling about "realism". I fully agree with you on that everything about the historical Swedish empire, was improbable, against the odds, inhumane, sacrificial, and time and time again a stupid, irresponsible, gamble at the total mercy of luck. yeah but the real problem is paradox's abstraction of manpower in EU4 is bad and dumb because it mixes a ton of concepts that don't really come together. for example, you can drill an army, and then hit a button to get 20% of your manpower back. like ??? agree it's because it's not a question of realism at all but i just think paradox has lost the thread on what the abstractions are meant to be to engage with ThisIsJohnWayne posted:The Swedish empire was jingoistic. It was aggressive. It was colonial. It was self obsessed. It was evil. It started wars and sacrificed people everywhere in the name of moving land borders under the rule of Swedish despots. It did it against god, justice, statistical probability, and common sense for 200 odd years, and it eventually lost it all. There was nothing to make the rivers of blood worth it. This is what the Swedish empire amounted to. The strangeness is, it did do it. sweden was never a great power and was a dumb country that sucked, on top of being evil. i think talking about them as beating the odds is some silly nonsense lol
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Lady Radia posted:sweden was never a great power and was a dumb country that sucked, on top of being evil. i think talking about them as beating the odds is some silly nonsense lol Maybe you're right. What do you call it?
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Maybe you're right. What do you call it? sweden? cold
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VostokProgram posted:Pie charts are good
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Sw*den should atone for their sins by.not taking half the year off in vacations. It's not fair to gamers.
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