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akadajet posted:they aren't the kind of union you like this will depend greatly on the definition of “union” and if expanded to labor or trade union the definition of labor or trade
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Somebody has to ruthlessly and needlessly oppress the poor otherwise what else would scare everyone else into not being poor 
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Oct 7, 2022 20:58
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:That's because they're foot soldiers for capital, not because they're unionized it can be both 
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Oct 7, 2022 21:06
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id like 2 suck off the cops
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Oct 7, 2022 22:52
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:holy fuckin poo poo I thought cops didn’t make good money That's propaganda
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Oct 7, 2022 23:33
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Jonny 290 posted:FOP is a union in name only
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Oct 7, 2022 23:33
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Beeftweeter posted:it can be both nope
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spankmeister posted:look, at any moment you could die from fentanyl exposure, it's a heroes job really heard this repeated as fact by young adults know your drugs know your dosages ppl
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Oct 8, 2022 03:20
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spray joose on your hand and shake a cops' so they spend all that money they make on grand piano bids
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Oct 8, 2022 03:32
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Kitfox88 posted:spray joose on your hand and shake a cops' so they spend all that money they make on grand piano bids shame they don’t have the ocarina of time in minecraft
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Kitfox88 posted:spray joose on your hand and shake a cops' so they spend all that money they make on grand piano bids funny as that sounds, they'd probably go on a killing spree (and get away with it)
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Oct 8, 2022 06:36
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There's really nowhere left in civil society where people of good conscience pretend that the cops do anything worth a gently caress, huh?
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Oct 8, 2022 06:43
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i’m split on it coz when my dad was a cop and as detective there were plenty of people who would like sexually abuse minors and etc and he helped put them behind bars, and imo that’s good
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Oct 8, 2022 07:01
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echinopsis posted:i’m split on it coz when my dad was a cop and as detective there were plenty of people who would like sexually abuse minors and etc and he helped put them behind bars, and imo that’s good not all cops are bastards, but holy poo poo a ton are.
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Oct 8, 2022 15:33
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akadajet posted:not all cops are bastards, but holy poo poo a ton are. to me the salient point is that institution applies constant pressure to make them into worse and worse bastards. they all join at different levels of bastardry and some of them resist the pressure better than others but the incentives only go one way
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Oct 8, 2022 15:47
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echinopsis posted:i’m split on it coz when my dad was a cop and as detective there were plenty of people who would like sexually abuse minors and etc and he helped put them behind bars, and imo that’s good yeah i've got a handful of cops in my family too. two are clearly corrupt but the other three work pretty hard one was a whistleblower, got his rear end beat for it
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Oct 8, 2022 15:51
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Beeftweeter posted:yeah i've got a handful of cops in my family too. two are clearly corrupt but the other three work pretty hard you beat him up for snitching on the cops?
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Oct 8, 2022 15:52
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All Cops Are Bastards because their structures make it so they cannot be anything but bastards given a long enough time period If you are a "good cop" to the letter and do things like report bad cops to internal affairs and conduct yourself in a humane manner, there's a pretty good chance your fellow officers will quite literally kill you in one fashion or another. There was an NYPD officer who tried to report crooked cops to internal affairs, got warned for doing so, continued to try to do so anyway, got demoted/hosed with, then his fellow officers went to his house and kicked the poo poo out of him before forcibly having him committed under the guise he was "going to commit suicide" You are simply not allowed to be a "good cop" - thus, all cops are bastards
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aye, the 'good' cops either cover for their corrupt coworkers in which case they aren't good just less bad, or they get drummed out of the force one way or another
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Oct 8, 2022 16:03
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also it is simply good policy to reject "not all X" as a line of public discussion in 2022, as it is otherwise immediately weaponized.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:There's really nowhere left in civil society where people of good conscience pretend that the cops do anything worth a gently caress, huh? pretend? yes you used too many qualifiers
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Oct 8, 2022 16:20
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law enforcement park rangers are cops but they seem institutionally ok to me. i’m sure some are individually bastards but the profession as a whole seems to be based on the premise that the outdoors are cool and keeping bears and people from killing each other helps everyone enjoy them
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there's also non-law enforcement park rangers who do the majority of the keeping bears and people from fighting each other.
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moonshine is...... posted:there's also non-law enforcement park rangers who do the majority of the keeping bears and people from fighting each other. yeah but the le rangers don’t seem to be philosophically different from the non-le rangers as an institution, unlike how e.g. urban cops are wildly different from social workers wrt tactics, communications, and institutional culture
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Oct 8, 2022 17:47
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raminasi posted:law enforcement park rangers are cops but they seem institutionally ok to me. i’m sure some are individually bastards but the profession as a whole seems to be based on the premise that the outdoors are cool and keeping bears and people from killing each other helps everyone enjoy them wisconsin is a chud rear end state but takes its natural resources very seriously. if you're caught poaching they take the animal, your gun, if you're doing it from your truck they take that, if you're doing it (somehow) from a boat they take that. I wish it wasn't asset-forfeiture-based punishment because that's inherently abusable, but they are probably doing some good. you do not gently caress with the wisconsin DNR
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Oct 8, 2022 17:49
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le ranger, hurf-durfing through the forest to prevent derpina from being om nom nommed by le bear
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fart simpson posted:you beat him up for snitching on the cops? uncle on my moms side was a detective in newark, found out about a slush fund and got stabbed a couple dozen times for reporting it they supposedly never found out who did it, but c'mon it was definitely a cop
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Truman Peyote posted:le ranger, hurf-durfing through the forest to prevent derpina from being om nom nommed by le bear
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Jonny 290 posted:wisconsin is a chud rear end state but takes its natural resources very seriously. if you're caught poaching they take the animal, your gun, if you're doing it from your truck they take that, if you're doing it (somehow) from a boat they take that. It's similar up here. there is a case where the fed rangers impounded a guys boat and the guy sued claiming only the state had jurisdiction on the river its still ongoing because our chud rear end state joined the lawsuit on the plaintiffs side
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Oct 8, 2022 17:58
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Beeftweeter posted:uncle on my moms side was a detective in newark, found out about a slush fund and got stabbed a couple dozen times for reporting it That cop in LA who was beat to death in a "training accident" was investigating four other officers for rape
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raminasi posted:law enforcement park rangers are cops but they seem institutionally ok to me. i’m sure some are individually bastards but the profession as a whole seems to be based on the premise that the outdoors are cool and keeping bears and people from killing each other helps everyone enjoy them they seem like cop personalities based on what they are carrying but at the same time i understand they are afraid of mush hunter shoot outs and maybe but not so much weed farms i want to say with legalization that’s less of a full ar carry for producers but lol they’re probably still assholes wish it was just forest friends who have to strap for the job
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:That cop in LA who was beat to death in a "training accident" was investigating four other officers for rape yeah, i mean, i was too little to really know for sure so that was just my mom's speculation i guess but i don't doubt it. i tried finding an article but someone getting "randomly" stabbed in newark (in 1991 no less) wasn't exactly uncommon lol
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hell is this baseball game that will never end. 0-0 going into the 14th. first playoff game ever to do this. they need to add the ghost runner to the playoffs.
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baseball games should be decided by armed combat, it is quintessential American
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Mr. Nice! posted:hell is this baseball game that will never end. 0-0 going into the 14th. first playoff game ever to do this. The ghost runner is stupid bullshit necessitated by the DH. If you have to pinch hit for pitchers, longevity is limited by the length of your bench. The people who run baseball are absolutely clueless about it and keep making it worse
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spankmeister posted:baseball games should be decided by armed combat, it is quintessential American they are armed and armored but something prevents them from using their weapons climactically
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:That cop in LA who was beat to death in a "training accident" was investigating four other officers for rape best part of law and order is when they kill a suspect or whatever and spend 37 minutes of the episode stomping around and muttering "loving IAD NOSING AROUND WHERE THEY DON'T BELONG! CHIEF, CAN YOU GET THESE JABRONIS OFF MY BACK? I GOT PERPS TO COLLAR AND I CAN'T DO IT FROM THIS DESK"
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:The ghost runner is stupid bullshit necessitated by the DH. If you have to pinch hit for pitchers, longevity is limited by the length of your bench. pitchers batting wouldn’t fix this game.
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Oct 8, 2022 22:05
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Mr. Nice! posted:pitchers batting wouldn’t fix this game. Having to pinch hit for pitchers absolutely would.
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baseball is a garbage rear end sport and that's why it's perfect as america's pasttime
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