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Honestly I'd stop wasting your time. Go back and do Capaldi's last season, which is one of the strongest of the revival
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Barry Foster posted:Honestly I'd stop wasting your time. Go back and do Capaldi's last season, which is one of the strongest of the revival  Yeah, Capaldi’s final season is pretty amazing. Also Heaven Sent from season 9 is an absolute tour de force and must be watched.
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Jerusalem posted:Yeah, I'm still a big believer in physical media, particularly for Doctor Who. Not sure if it's the point you're making, but that apparently is actually already an issue. The Scissor Sisters song used in Last of the Time Lords in particular seems to be a problem, so that scene has been edited out on a bunch of streaming services.
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Voting Floater posted:Not sure if it's the point you're making, but that apparently is actually already an issue. The Scissor Sisters song used in Last of the Time Lords in particular seems to be a problem, so that scene has been edited out on a bunch of streaming services. I didn't know that, and it makes me thankful yet again for physical media! You NEED that scene for the initial "What the gently caress" that they're playing the music, and then the,"Oh that loving troll" moment when you realize The Master is literally blasting it through loudspeakers because he's a dick 
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Oct 9, 2022 12:51
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I’m trying to remember if there was actually an issue with the Scissor Sisters, since that was originally removed as part of several edits to cut Last of the Time Lords down to 45 minutes. Then, as is typical, several streaming services just got lazy and used that edit rather than the original 52 minute version.
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Oct 9, 2022 13:08
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Barry Foster posted:Honestly I'd stop wasting your time. Go back and do Capaldi's last season, which is one of the strongest of the revival Missy was so good, such a missed opportunity with Whittaker.
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Oct 9, 2022 14:33
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Voting Floater posted:Not sure if it's the point you're making, but that apparently is actually already an issue. The Scissor Sisters song used in Last of the Time Lords in particular seems to be a problem, so that scene has been edited out on a bunch of streaming services. That is a crime. Literally one of the best scenes in the revival! Right up there with the S1 Supernatural streaming not having the original songs (The In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida where the cops storm the serial killer house is particularly egregious).
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Zaroff posted:I’m trying to remember if there was actually an issue with the Scissor Sisters, since that was originally removed as part of several edits to cut Last of the Time Lords down to 45 minutes. Then, as is typical, several streaming services just got lazy and used that edit rather than the original 52 minute version. Right, it was a cut made for syndication purposes, not for licensing rights.
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Oct 10, 2022 04:25
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Barry Foster posted:Honestly I'd stop wasting your time. Go back and do Capaldi's last season, which is one of the strongest of the revival Agreed. I'm not watching a frame more of Chibnall's era than I have to. I will watch Power of the Doctor though.
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What's the Capaldi lion-man episode? Has it been so long I only remember like three Twelfth Doctor stories?
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Oct 10, 2022 05:37
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Coward posted:What's the Capaldi lion-man episode? Has it been so long I only remember like three Twelfth Doctor stories? The Woman Who Lived. I liked it a lot FWIW.
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Oct 10, 2022 05:40
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Oh, right. I am fairly sure I haven't seen it since it was first broadcast, so that makes sense. Thank you!
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Open Source Idiom posted:The Woman Who Lived. (Even though people keep saying Twelve's final season was great, I'm still put off watching it because I can't help thinking it'll be Twelve at his Twelviest and Moffat being maximally Moffatty - I'd had enough of his schtick by then too.)
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It just kinda isn't? That's the only way I can put it. It's a lot less bombastic and has a more thoughtful tone overall - it almost feels like a bit of a soft reboot. It's not all great (some of it not even good - that's Doctor Who for ya!) but it has some really, really good stuff. Twelve is at his most compassionate and sympathetic. Bill (new companion) is one of my absolute favourites of the whole revival era, she's extremely likeable. It's just really good. Don't be put off by your imaginary version of what it is, d'you know what I mean? Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Oct 10, 2022 |
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Bill was a great companion, absolutely, and Capaldi's last season really did feel like they were trying something different. Plus it has Oxygen, which is an absolutely incredible episode.
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There has been licensing problems with music before. The US release of The Chase lost The Beatles scene entirely, and worldwide, a Beatles song had to be painstakingly removed and replaced with something else in the CD release of The Evil of the Daleks missing episodes soundtrack.
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The Saitama/Genos fight
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Payndz posted:That episode (the one where I stopped watching) had such a schizophrenic tone. Ashildir telling the Doctor how he'd cursed her to outlive her children and everyone else she ever cared about? Great. Wacky peasant comedy and crappy lion-man blowing stuff up? Awful. For some reason that was the last straw for me, even though there had been plenty of stuff previously that was objectively worse (not least 'Kill The Moon' and 'Forest of the Night') - maybe it was just that Twelve himself was not a character I wanted to spend any more time with, as he'd become actively obnoxious in a way not even Six managed. Yeah you're just not right here. Twelve's final season isn't simply "great," it has what's probably the best standalone episode of the revival. You're just depriving yourself of something you'll enjoy by being stubborn about an episode that basically nobody remembers.
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I vaguely remembered that Twelve and Clara met Ashildr in the middle of the season to set up the ending, but I'd completely left behind anything that actually happened in the episode. This ks the first time I've seen it mentioned since it aired.
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Davros1 posted:There has been licensing problems with music before. The US release of The Chase lost The Beatles scene entirely, and worldwide, a Beatles song had to be painstakingly removed and replaced with something else in the CD release of The Evil of the Daleks missing episodes soundtrack. Also a snippet of a Fleetwood Mac song had to be edited out of The Three Doctors, if memory serves (it was "Oh Well", from the Peter Green-era Mac). On the topic of Moffat, here's my infrequent reminder that I gave up on his version of DW about halfway through Eleven's run and never looked back. CommonShore posted:Yeah you're just not right here. Twelve's final season isn't simply "great," it has what's probably the best standalone episode of the revival. You're just depriving yourself of something you'll enjoy by being stubborn about an episode that basically nobody remembers. It's their opinion, they can't be wrong about it.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Also a snippet of a Fleetwood Mac song had to be edited out of The Three Doctors, if memory serves (it was "Oh Well", from the Peter Green-era Mac). Spearhead from Space, and I think it’s since been resolved and recent releases (well those from 10 years ago) have had Oh Well reinstated. I’m curious about The Chase - from what I’ve heard the same masters have been created for both UK and US releases. No idea what that means, however I suspect we will learn more in the next DWM which has the Season 2 set preview.
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Zaroff posted:Spearhead from Space, and I think it’s since been resolved and recent releases (well those from 10 years ago) have had Oh Well reinstated. You're right, for some reason I thought it was T3D, but it was SFS.
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TinTower posted:https://twitter.com/ProfDaveAndress/status/1577653226425516033 It's likely that Thompson's costume was based off Truss, as she wore that outfit before Years and Years started filming and there aren't many "blonde female high profile Tory politicians" to take inspiration from. CommonShore posted:Yeah you're just not right here. Twelve's final season isn't simply "great," it has what's probably the best standalone episode of the revival. Which episode are you talking about here MrL_JaKiri fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Oct 10, 2022 |
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Also a snippet of a Fleetwood Mac song had to be edited out of The Three Doctors, if memory serves (it was "Oh Well", from the Peter Green-era Mac). Their opinion is a prediction about what episodes they havent watched are like. They can absolutely be wrong about that. If you didnt watch the thing you have less information than people who did watch the thing.
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SiKboy posted:Their opinion is a prediction about what episodes they havent watched are like. They can absolutely be wrong about that. If you didnt watch the thing you have less information than people who did watch the thing. If they don't like the particular character or the particular writer or the particular showrunner, they can make a prediction based on their opinion of what they've seen in the past, and in that regard they can't be wrong because they're not likely to enjoy it. You don't need to get kicked in the groin to know that it's probably going to suck being kicked in the groin.
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Jerusalem posted:Bill was a great companion, absolutely, and Capaldi's last season really did feel like they were trying something different. Plus it has Oxygen, which is an absolutely incredible episode. I am going to say Capaldi's last season and special is fine, maybe even good buy that trilogy of Extremis to the Lie of the Land is pretty bad and sucks the momentum out of the season.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:If they don't like the particular character or the particular writer or the particular showrunner, they can make a prediction based on their opinion of what they've seen in the past, and in that regard they can't be wrong because they're not likely to enjoy it. You don't need to get kicked in the groin to know that it's probably going to suck being kicked in the groin. If it was just "I dont think I'd like it because I dont like this character or that showrunner" then sure whatever. But you can absolutely be wrong when you say things like "it'll be Twelve at his Twelviest and Moffat being maximally Moffatty" about episodes you havent seen, and other people say "No, actually it goes in the other direction, and moffatt actually restrains his worst excesses" because people who have seen it have more information than you and know what the actual episodes are like. I mean, watch it, dont watch it, I dont care. But if you dont watch it then your opinion on it is intrinsically less educated than those who did.
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Extremis is fine if you replace the two parter afterwards by just imagining that the Doctor used what he learned to kick those weird aliens' asses off his planet in seconds and that was an end to it.
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Dabir posted:Extremis is fine if you replace the two parter afterwards by just imagining that the Doctor used what he learned to kick those weird aliens' asses off his planet in seconds and that was an end to it. Yeah, absolutely. That first episode is really good, and does a pretty good job at existential horror, which is one of the horrors Who doesn't visit all that often
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Dabir posted:Extremis is fine if you replace the two parter afterwards by just imagining that the Doctor used what he learned to kick those weird aliens' asses off his planet in seconds and that was an end to it. Extremis was very good and then Peter Harness came in and Peter Harness'd all over it I love The Lie of the Land's aesthetic though; very Half-Life 2, but the story is just one long tired sigh Vinylshadow fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Oct 10, 2022 |
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SiKboy posted:If it was just "I dont think I'd like it because I dont like this character or that showrunner" then sure whatever. But you can absolutely be wrong when you say things like "it'll be Twelve at his Twelviest and Moffat being maximally Moffatty" about episodes you havent seen, and other people say "No, actually it goes in the other direction, and moffatt actually restrains his worst excesses" because people who have seen it have more information than you and know what the actual episodes are like. Good thing that wasn't what happened, then! CommonShore posted:Yeah you're just not right here. Twelve's final season isn't simply "great," it has what's probably the best standalone episode of the revival. You're just depriving yourself of something you'll enjoy by being stubborn about an episode that basically nobody remembers. The debate wasn't about Moffat being Moffatty, it was about how the season is just great, end of discussion. Not quite the same as "Moffat restrains his worst excesses".
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MrL_JaKiri posted:It's likely that Thompson's costume was based off Truss, as she wore that outfit before Years and Years started filming and there aren't many "blonde female high profile Tory politicians" to take inspiration from. Lol wait heaven sent isn't the last season. Whoops World enough and time is still extremely good
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Good thing that wasn't what happened, then! Payndz posted:(Even though people keep saying Twelve's final season was great, I'm still put off watching it because I can't help thinking it'll be Twelve at his Twelviest and Moffat being maximally Moffatty - I'd had enough of his schtick by then too.)
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I'm going to drop out of this argument as I think we've both made our points and will just have to agree to disagree on this particular thing.
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All right, I'll watch Twelve's final season sometime, jeez. After all this buildup, though, it'd better be the best loving thing the show's done since the Hinchcliffe era.
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You should definitely watch Heaven Sent from the end of Season 9 as well though.
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Payndz posted:All right, I'll watch Twelve's final season sometime, jeez. Man, talk about a high bar to clear...
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Watch the show for its peaks and forget about the valleys. It's the most enjoyable and least heartbreaking that way.
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Yeah, the monk trilogy is one great episode, one not very good one and one bad one, if I remember right. And I really, really, really disliked the ending to it. Edit: The Master's cheerful detailing of how she defeated them in the past was great though - either find and kill the person who "invited" them or blow up the planet. Win-win either way! 
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The middle episode is 100% driven by intelligent people acting in the dumbest way possible, and the last episode reads like Moffat and Whithouse sighing and cleaning up Harness's mess.
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