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 And here we are again. After about two months of new Doctor Who to talk about, we're in another year with only two new episodes to look forward to. We say goodbye to Whittaker's run as the Doctor and good riddance to Chibnall as show-runner. Here are some stats! Davies (first run): 60 episodes produced over five years (I'm counting the End of Time (Part 2) with 2009 for argument's sake) Moffat: 84 episodes produced over eight years Chibnall: 31 episodes produced over five years Make of that as you will. Whittaker's final two episodes will debut at unspecified times this year, but I'd bet they debut around the weekend of April 17th (for Easter weekend) and around October 18th (for the BBC Centenary). After that, RTD takes over again. Will it be acceptable? Who will portray the Fourteenth Doctor? Will we get a decent-sized number of episodes per season again? Only time will tell, as it always does. As per usual, I must inform you that Doctor Who is not going away any time soon, as foreign sales of future seasons obligate more of the show to be made. The previous thread can be found here. Now, the formalities. We have a designated spoiler thread, but under Chibnall the amount of spoilers have dried like the lake in that one episode. Use your best judgement. Episode titles can be spoiler-y, so use discretion when discussing episodes yet to air. For example, 'Hide' doesn't spoil anything, but 'OH poo poo IT'S THE DALEKS' does. With that being said, as soon as HRH the K is able to watch it, it is no longer a spoiler. That means anyone not watching on BBC One should leave the thread and not return until they've watched the most recent episode - that is, unless you don't care about the Earth-shattering, canon-defying, poor-choiceingest developments! WHERE DO I START? The Woman Who Fell to Earth is a good starting point, as the current Doctor makes her first starring appearance there alongside one of her current companions. This is not to discount Doctors 9-12, but so far their stories have not made a major point in the tenure of Whittaker's Doctor. If you want to watch the original series, there are plenty of places to start. You COULD start with An Unearthly Child and watch everything in chronological order. You could also watch individual serials of all the Doctors and determine which you like the best. Keep in mind, don't shotgun a whole Hartnell or Troughton in one go, or else you'll get complacent. Those 60's episodes are meant to be seen one at a time, and if you only just rented the DVD, wait a few hours between episodes. The most popular serials for the original series you can jump into are: First Doctor: An Unearthly Child, The Aztecs Second Doctor: The Tomb of the Cybermen, The Enemy of the World Third Doctor: Spearhead from Space, Carnival of Monsters Fourth Doctor: Pyramids of Mars, The Robots of Death Fifth Doctor: Kinda, Frontios Sixth Doctor: Vengeance on Varos, Revelation of the Daleks Seventh Doctor: Dragonfire, Remembrance of the Daleks WHERE CAN I WATCH DOCTOR WHO? BritBox is the place to watch almost every episode of the original series. In addition, you're in luck if you're an American, as you can watch the original run of Doctor Who on honest-to-goodness TV (Retro TV and some PBS stations)! For the current run: ON TELEVISION UK - BBC One (first run), W USA - BBC America (first run), most PBS stations Canada - CTV Sci-Fi Channel Australia - ABC TV Plus (first run), ABC ME STREAMING UK - BBC iPlayer, Virgin TV Go USA - AMC+ (until six months after airing), HBO Max (six months after initial airing) Canada - Crave Australia - ABC iView, Stan, BritBox SHOULD I BUY THE DVDs AND BLU-RAYs? Just for the bonus features alone. THE ALL-NEW GUIDE TO BIG FINISH There are literally THOUSANDS of Doctor Who and Doctor Who-related audio dramas released by Big Finish Productions. In previous threads, I would pour over all the individual lines and describe them. With the great restructure of Big Finish lines, though, I have to adapt. So, here are some bullet points: -Doctors 1-12 have their own individual lines now, although obviously the first three Doctors are not played by Hartnell, Troughton, and Pertwee. Here's a handy guide: if it's current series Doctor Who, "Adventures" means it's the actual actors, while "Chronicles" means it's not. -The Companion Chronicles & the Early Adventures generally do not feature the Doctor, and some of them are essentially audiobooks with sound effects. Check the cast list if you want to know which is which. -If you have ever asked "what about <random character x>?", boy are you in luck! There are so many spin-offs featuring characters both familiar and unfamiliar that you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a series that makes you say "THEY got a series?" Some are good, some are bad, most are unremarkable. -Everyone has a taste, so don't rely on other people's opinions. For example, I don't care for or about Charlotte Pollard and her spin-off, but some people do! Some crazy people enjoy the story Nekromanteia - you do you! THE DISCORD Here it is. The future is now! FINALLY, let's take a look back....all the way to ten years ago! People were talking about how often the modern-day Dalek shouts "Exterminate!", so... marktheando posted:Here's supposedly every single exterminate from the classic series. BUT! YouTube commentator "JMWAlphaZero" posted:you haven't technically done all "exterminates" you missed the civil dalek battle from revelation, and when the dalek supreme recognised the doctor's calling card in remembrance, check and mate! =] Edward Mass fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Oct 23, 2022 |
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Also I think it bears repeating, from the end of the last thread: WHAT!?!
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Jan 4, 2022 23:42
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Hey, you've redecorated!  I don't like it. 
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Jan 4, 2022 23:52
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TinTower posted:Hey, you've redecorated! We never needed Patrick Troughton more than the last special where the Doctor opens up the TARDIS to show the rebuilt console room and it's still the empty dark mess it's been the last 2 seasons 
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Jan 4, 2022 23:54
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Doctor Who in EVE Online? Pfft, call me when they show up in Star Trek Online.   
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Jan 5, 2022 00:09
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I’ve still got very little sense of the current console room. It’s some Himalayan salt lamps next to a typewriter, all suspended in a void.
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Jan 5, 2022 00:19
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Put some himalayan salt on some chips I cooked this evening, was quite nice but didn't really see the point over the regular kind. Is this a metaphor for the console room? Who can say. Sydney Bottocks posted:Doctor Who in EVE Online? Pfft, call me when they show up in Star Trek Online. ELDER SCROLLS
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Jan 5, 2022 00:30
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Why is there a cow in the middle of whiterun
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Jan 5, 2022 00:37
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Jerusalem posted:We never needed Patrick Troughton more than the last special where the Doctor opens up the TARDIS to show the rebuilt console room and it's still the empty dark mess it's been the last 2 seasons You've... You haven't done anything. .......I don't like it.
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Jan 5, 2022 00:56
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Jerusalem posted:We never needed Patrick Troughton more than the last special where the Doctor opens up the TARDIS to show the rebuilt console room and it's still the empty dark mess it's been the last 2 seasons Ya I figured that was the joke. But I was still hoping they'd splurge the rest of their budget on a new interior, but considering how many episodes 13 has left...it doesn't make sense for them to conceive and then actually build a new one.
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Jan 5, 2022 01:21
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https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1478437677628334089?s=20 Also, new year, new slogan: "Big Finish: For The Love Of Stories"
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Jan 5, 2022 01:26
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I mean, with the return of RTD and the production move it's a fair bet we get an entirely new set. Probably a refreshed Police Box as well.
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Jan 5, 2022 01:27
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“So these are my replacements… a dandy, a clown, a lunatic, a milksop, an eyesore, a creep, a romantic, a hooligan, a geek, a goof, an aging punk, and… no, I’m all right, my dear, just out of breath. Eh? Really? Take a walk with me while the others fight over the desktop theme. Nice to see my future isn’t a complete loss.”
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Jan 5, 2022 01:32
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Rhyno posted:I mean, with the return of RTD and the production move it's a fair bet we get an entirely new set. Probably a refreshed Police Box as well. It'll be interesting if RTD decides to revert the designs of the Cybermen and the Sontarans
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Jan 5, 2022 01:34
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It sure is nice and easy getting your story made when you already work for BF.
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Jan 5, 2022 01:38
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Davros1 posted:It'll be interesting if RTD decides to revert the designs of the Cybermen and the Sontarans Probably all new going forward. I wouldn't be surprised if they tweak the Daleks again.
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Jan 5, 2022 01:43
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The_Doctor posted:It sure is nice and easy getting your story made when you already work for BF. You could do what he did; make your own audios and hope to get noticed
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Jan 5, 2022 01:48
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 Jerusalem posted:We never needed Patrick Troughton more than the last special where the Doctor opens up the TARDIS to show the rebuilt console room and it's still the empty dark mess it's been the last 2 seasons That was honestly pretty dire, with the only change being the lighting's now orange-blue rather than blue (or purple, as it was last series) It feels a little less claustrophobic, or maybe that's just because it was a wide reveal shot rather than a close-up of a face around the console... 
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Jan 5, 2022 04:07
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Here's to new years, fun times, and new stories that make sense!
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https://twitter.com/Dan_KennedyWSDK/status/1478445534667063298 What would your ideal 60th Anniversary be? Eight's third on-screen appearance? Multi-Doctor Story? Totally Killing The Daleks For Realsies This Time™?
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Jan 5, 2022 06:26
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Ideal 60th Anniversary: The BBC hold a press conference and say,"Sorry about how sporadic the number of episodes per year has been since series 6, but we can finally reveal that it was because we have already shot 100+ episodes of The 8th Doctor Adventures starring Paul McGann and we'll be airing a run of 6 episodes every time more than 3 months without a new modern series of Doctor Who airs from now until time itself runs down and the universe reaches its heat death."
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Jan 5, 2022 06:36
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https://twitter.com/MenaceSpreads/status/1478681359174492164 Finally, the perfect tweet for a new thread
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Jan 5, 2022 17:05
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There was some 11th doctor audio which involved him having to coordinate with all of the other doctors via garbled messages to solve a major problem across time and space. Something like that would be a good model for the 60th anniversary. Try to get any actor who ever appeared on the series, old or new, involved in some way, even if just for quick easter egg cameos or to play extras, while keeping the bulk of the story on maybe just like... 13->14 8 and 9 teaming up.
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Jan 5, 2022 17:10
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Forty trailer Cybermen, Ice Warriors, and Adric, oh my
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Vinylshadow posted:Forty trailer Speaking of which, what are the good Fifth Doctor audios to pick up? Most of them seem to be on sale at the moment. Davison is my least favorite Doctor so I haven't paid much attention to what's available there, though I fo have Spare Parts at least.
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https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7048270346876669190 You know what? A deaf Irish non-binary companion would be brilliant.
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Jan 5, 2022 18:39
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For the 60th anniversary special, I'd suggest doing a story akin to the book the Eight Doctors. The 14th Doctor runs into previous generations of selves one at a time, as opposed to all at once.
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Jan 5, 2022 20:23
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Vinylshadow posted:What would your ideal 60th Anniversary be? "The BBC announced today, on the 60th anniversary of the show, that going forward all Doctor Who stories will return to the 25-minute "episodic" format commonly used during the show's previous run from 1963 to 1989, in order to allow for more cliffhangers, more world-building, and also so that the show doesn't become just a soap opera with sci-fi elements again. Also that returning showrunner Russell T. Davies has been advised that there is now a moratorium on the following tropes: companions being from modern-day Earth, companions falling in love with the Doctor, companions being "cleverer" or "quirkier" than the Doctor, season finales that keep increasing the stakes to ridiculous levels, any Scooby-Doo or game show homages/pastiches/parodies, and any human/paving slab hybrids providing their loser boyfriends with oral sex. Oh, and the Weeping Angels, because they're beyond played out. Seriously, they're less scary than the Cybermen or the Sontarans at this point." Sydney Bottocks fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Jan 5, 2022 |
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Jan 5, 2022 20:34
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Since we already got an excellent, focused, relatively understated special for the 50th anniversary, like The Three Doctors was for the 10th, I hope for the 60th we get a completely stupid, totally overstuffed and super fun mess more like The Five Doctors.
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Random Stranger posted:Speaking of which, what are the good Fifth Doctor audios to pick up? Most of them seem to be on sale at the moment. Davison is my least favorite Doctor so I haven't paid much attention to what's available there, though I fo have Spare Parts at least. Spare Parts is everyone's number one go-to for The Fifth Doctor, so I suggest that. Others I would recommend: The Mutant Phase The Eye of the Scorpion The Church and the Crown Singularity The Kingmaker The Eternal Summer The Elite The Burning Prince The Light at the End (also starring Fourth, Sixth, Seventh, and Eighth) Tomb Ship The Fifth Doctor Boxset (for the story Iterations of I) The Secret History And You Will Obey Me Time in Office
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Forktoss posted:Since we already got an excellent, focused, relatively understated special for the 50th anniversary, like The Three Doctors was for the 10th, I hope for the 60th we get a completely stupid, totally overstuffed and super fun mess more like The Five Doctors. The Cyberleader's already initiating "Stand in a straight line and do absolutely nothing to retaliate" protocols for when the Raston Warrior Robot shows up again.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:The Cyberleader's already initiating "Stand in a straight line and do absolutely nothing to retaliate" protocols for when the Raston Warrior Robot shows up again. Hm...RTD did express interest in using it during his original tenure, so it might actually show up this time around
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Alright, I'm finally going to say it. I don't think that guy meant that the slab was giving him a blowjob.
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Bicyclops posted:Alright, I'm finally going to say it. I don't think that guy meant that the slab was giving him a blowjob. What sort of "love life" were they having then
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Sydney Bottocks posted:What sort of "love life" were they having then I don't know. Maybe they make out, or she croons ELO in a sexy voice while he jerks off, or she watches while he has sex with a Zygon that's taking her shape, or any other number of cringeworthy scenarios. The way she's cemented in, it doesn't seem realistic that she could blow him, even if he is holding the slab and even if he has a pretty tiny wiener, and, furthermore, the way she says "Oh, let's not get into all that" seems to imply that it is more complicated and weird than a blowjob. I think the intention behind the line is to imply that even despite only realizing they were in love just before her condition, they live a full-throated romance with all of their needs met. Obviously that is preposterous and the choice to have the Doctor "save" her by giving her a fate worse than death was a bad one (it's Doctor Who, there are no rules, why couldn't he have just saved her in a way that left her as a regular person and spouted some technobabble about how he did it as the surprise?). It does ruin an otherwise decent, if silly, episode. But "blowjob slab" is a meme not supported by the text, and I stand by that!!
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Bicyclops posted:I don't know. Maybe they make out, or she croons ELO in a sexy voice while he jerks off, or she watches while he has sex with a Zygon that's taking her shape, or any other number of cringeworthy scenarios. The way she's cemented in, it doesn't seem realistic that she could blow him, even if he is holding the slab and even if he has a pretty tiny wiener, and, furthermore, the way she says "Oh, let's not get into all that" seems to imply that it is more complicated and weird than a blowjob. Occam's razor holds that, if you have two competing ideas or solutions to a problem, the simplest one is the correct answer. Put another way: he was sticking his knob in the paving stone's gob
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Occam's razor holds that, if you have two competing ideas or solutions to a problem, the simplest one is the correct answer. Your honor. Members of the jury. Assembled press. I would submit that her sucking him off is far from the simplest interpretation of the text. Consider: she only has part of her mouth so his dingus would be hitting the concrete uncomfortably, or else she would just be licking the tip a little. Additionally, while it is possible she can spit most of his semen out in this laughable hypothetical, some of it would no doubt splatter the "slab" that her face is stuck in, and the only way to clean it up would be through her mouth, which would be hugely unpleasant for her. There are clearly too many logistics and questions involved for this to be Occam's razor. Plus, the phrase "into all that" (emphasis mine) indicates that what they are referencing is not in fact the simplest solution; indeed, it seems to imply that it is something so bizarre that it would take detailed explanation for those of us with non pavement slab partners to understand. In fact, *chuckling* I'd go so far as to say that line is... blown out of proportion? Why the obsession with it, in an ending where someone experiencing a horrible fate is supposed to be a happy ending, is what... sucks. Your witness.
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It's just awkward kissing and very shallow frenching ...what happens if he drops her? Is that murder, or vandalism?
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