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god please help me posted:With any hope elon owning twitter will be the impetus get people to leave, like how banning porn made people leave tumblr. It's alright, he'll just get his Tesla engineers to implement self-posting accounts.
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GABA ghoul posted:I htbh but I'm very conflicted about all of this. On one hand it would be really funny to see Musk get hosed, but on the other hand I'm kinda worried about the end of peace, human rights, prosperity, stability and rule of law in the western world if Trump is let back on Twitter before the GOP primaries. I don't know who to root for. it's not trump on twitter that's the concern, he's already too famous for deplatforming to do much. anyone who cares what he has to say knows where to find him, and other media constantly talks about the dumb poo poo he says, including plenty of twitter reply guys who screenshot his "truths". the concern would be that twitter under musk would do even less than the, well, barely anything they're doing now to enforce standards against hatred, bigotry, and misinformation that is harmful to public health and allowing more nazis to grow platforms in the future. it will undeniably be worse with him at the helm, but it's already very bad. i would care more if twitter were actually worth saving. instead i'm happy to watch them tear each other apart.
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Bad Purchase posted:it's not trump on twitter that's the concern, he's already too famous for deplatforming to do much. anyone who cares what he has to say knows where to find him, and other media constantly talks about the dumb poo poo he says, including plenty of twitter reply guys who screenshot his "truths". This is absolutely it. Musk is pure poison for what Twitter could be but isn't. If there's a battle over the soul for America and western democracy, this isn't it.
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Oct 8, 2022 21:54
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twitter saw a chance to inflict millions of dollars of damage against elon musk and took it. and really who can blame them?
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Good to see Ye back on Twitter. https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1578957396604424193
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I refuse to use twitter normally, but I took the time to report that. Dude's antisemitic.
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Kanye has gotten crazy beyond crazy, he's starting to use that weird punctuation and rambling writing style that actually insane people use, he's a year away from writing screeds about conspiracies all over his car. I love his music and its a bummer, he seems like an absolutely tormented man surrounded by only bad influences. He was once a cool and inspiring man.
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ah gently caress i just realized the weird spacing is the dumb as poo poo (((antisemitism thing))) but without the multiple parantheses since non-antisemitic people have been reclaiming those.
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BoldFace posted:Good to see Ye back on Twitter. I can't wait till the House GOP Judiciary Twitter account retweets this.
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god please help me posted:ah gently caress i just realized the weird spacing is the dumb as poo poo (((antisemitism thing))) but without the multiple parantheses since non-antisemitic people have been reclaiming those. I thought it was a pregnant pause
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Oct 9, 2022 06:50
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Tweet deleted for violating rules lmao
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Brother Tadger posted:Tweet deleted for violating rules lmao screenshot for the people who foolishly dared to sleep 
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Indescribably rich entertainment man... bad?
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Strategic Tea posted:Indescribably rich entertainment man... bad? Or at least needs medication that no one close to him will make sure he takes.
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Caesar Saladin posted:He seems to go on medication sometimes, and he's just kinda quiet and stays out of social media, and then usually when he has some kind of album or something coming out he stops taking it and goes on a self destructive bad opinion spree He is bipolar and admitted he doesn't believe in medication. His mom's death also completely broke him, he spent millions having a developer make a video game where he visits her in heaven.
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Main Paineframe posted:screenshot for the people who foolishly dared to sleep ♫ Musk show me the way because the left is tryin to take me down ♫ TwoPair fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Oct 9, 2022 |
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B-Rock452 posted:he spent millions having a developer make a video game where he visits her in heaven. Wanna play this; link?
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Brother Tadger posted:Wanna play this; link? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7KUJqmWKqo
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It sounds like Musk can't get the financing lined up, which isn't suprising because Twitter is basically a financial time bomb at this point. Any financial group worth it salt wouldnt want it on their books.
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Good thing the contract that musk signed doesn't say anything about outside financing, because that fact (if it's a fact in the first place) is completely irrelevant. It's no different than someone trying to convince a bank to not be mean about overdue credit card bills because they haven't won the lottery yet
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CommieGIR posted:It sounds like Musk can't get the financing lined up, which isn't suprising because Twitter is basically a financial time bomb at this point. Any financial group worth it salt wouldnt want it on their books. I wonder if the funders he's gotten so far are considering those loans a write off to prevent his stock (in which they are leveraged) from collapsing too soon, which will happen if he has to sell off his stuff
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CommieGIR posted:It sounds like Musk can't get the financing lined up, which isn't suprising because Twitter is basically a financial time bomb at this point. Any financial group worth it salt wouldnt want it on their books. He has commitment contracts from banks for $13 billion, which are pretty iron clad and the only way they're not lined up is if Elon is intentionally loving them up. The financing that's not lined up anymore is the billions he was getting from silicon valley friends via text message. Some of them probably have questions about whether they'll make their money back, but maybe some others are having second thoughts about backing Musk's "truth in the middle" re-platforming of Nazis and Trump, now that their names are in public. They were of course fine with it when they were doing a private deal directly with Musk. But that's not valid for getting out of the deal. 
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Klyith posted:He has commitment contracts from banks for $13 billion, which are pretty iron clad and the only way they're not lined up is if Elon is intentionally loving them up. Part of the issue that's come out with his attempted retry of the purchase too is he's trying to negotiate again on something he already signed to avoid the court case. Twitter is not playing ball. They'd rather proceed with the court case than renegotiation.
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The expectation that he can or will complete must be pretty low for Twitter to essentially decide that the court case is their better option in terms of getting money out of Musk. Based on his histrionics both inside and outside of this deal it's probably a wise strategy. What will be interesting is how the Delaware judge handles Musk pivoting to say that he's trying to buy the company but that Twitter won't let him. I understand that he's got an extension, but what happens after that when (as seems likely) he'll still be prevaricating? Truly bizarre.
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Oct 10, 2022 16:28
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Musk is slowly morphing into Trump.
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therobit posted:Musk is slowly morphing into Trump. Here's my shocked face that a beneficiary of South African Apartheid era mineral mining is a piece of poo poo.
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Isn't tanking the financing what would allow him to get out of the deal for $1B? Writing that off might be legit his best option at this point.
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I feel like Twitter just hit it hit on roulette with their first deal and now Musk is trying to convince them that it would be really cool if they re-did it and tried again. Why on earth would they renegotiate the deal?
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Durzel posted:What will be interesting is how the Delaware judge handles Musk pivoting to say that he's trying to buy the company but that Twitter won't let him. I understand that he's got an extension, but what happens after that when (as seems likely) he'll still be prevaricating? Truly bizarre. Matt Levine posted:Fourth: If Twitter’s lawyers find themselves emailing Chancellor McCormick at 5:00:01 p.m. on Oct. 28 to ask for a November trial date, she’s gonna write back at 5:00:02 saying “We’re doing Nov. 1 at 8 a.m.” And the trial will be very quick, and there will be a smell of brimstone in the courtroom, and Elon Musk had better have a really really really really really really really really really good excuse for why he’s not closing. And that excuse had better be new. “I think that as many as 6% of Twitter’s users might be bots” is not gonna cut it. mobby_6kl posted:Isn't tanking the financing what would allow him to get out of the deal for $1B? Writing that off might be legit his best option at this point. Matt Levine posted:There are funny possibilities here. Maybe everyone will show up at the closing and Morgan Stanley will walk in and say “hey guys you’re not going to believe this but we have reason to think that more than 5% of Twitter’s users are spam bots, which would create a material adverse effect on the company, so we can’t close the financing, deal’s off.” That would be the funniest possible outcome, much funnier than Musk just changing his mind again. Musk is a business prankster and his antics are getting old, but for a serious Morgan Stanley banker to show up and do the bot routine, with a straight face, would be incredible.
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But what about the randos that committed funds to the deal, e.g. the likes of Binance, etc? Are they bound by the same terms? Do they have the same spectre of reputational damage hanging over them were they to back out?
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I'm willing to give Elon $5 if he lets me be part of the board.
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Durzel posted:But what about the randos that committed funds to the deal, e.g. the likes of Binance, etc? Are they bound by the same terms? Do they have the same spectre of reputational damage hanging over them were they to back out? No and no. But those guys aren't the financing in the deal between Twitter & Musk. They're buying into the portion of money that Elon is responsible for by himself. At the time that they agreed on the acquisition deal, it was $25 billion debt financing and $21 billion from Musk himself. Musk already had the debt commitment letters from the big banks when they signed. Even at Musk's level of wealth, twitter needed to see hard money from someone who wasn't just stock-rich. The main reason for the financing get-out-of-jail clause is like, what if 2008 happens again and Morgan Stanley goes bust? They have zero money to loan. Not really Musk's fault if that happens, right? Thus the relatively low penalty to walk away. Nobody was thinking Morgan Stanley would go bust, and nobody at Twitter imagined that Musk was so crazy. As for his own personal money commitment, he can bring other people in on that however he likes. Those are side deals between Musk and whoever. Nice for Musk if he does, but not Twitter's problem if he gets no bites.
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Gotcha, that makes sense. Sucks to be Elon then I guess.
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I dunno, I could see Morgan Stanley deciding that Musk has done so much to devalue Twitter in the interim that they are no longer confident about the deal and are going to back out.
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therobit posted:I dunno, I could see Morgan Stanley deciding that Musk has done so much to devalue Twitter in the interim that they are no longer confident about the deal and are going to back out. They can't really back out, for much the same reason that Musk can't back out: they signed an contract committing them to provide a given amount of financing, and it didn't have an "I don't feel like it anymore" clause. They're stuck in this whether they like it or not (and make no mistake, they don't like it anymore).
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Its weird to imagine what kind of jackbrained idiocy we'd have records of on Steve Jobs if Twitter existed in the 80s and 90s.
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