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oh seems like Alicent canonically did NOT kill the girl https://www.elitedaily.com/entertainment/what-happened-dyana-house-of-the-dragon-director-explained quote:Thankfully, it’s since been revealed that Alicent did not, in fact, poison this poor girl. Speaking to The Hollywood Reporter, the episode director, Geeta Patel, explained the showrunners “were talking about Alicent paying her off and that she would disappear” and confirmed “the tea was definitely to prevent pregnancy — the same tea Young Rhaenyra got” earlier on in the season.
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Typo posted:oh seems like Alicent canonically did NOT kill the girl I'm glad my read on the scene was right, and that it was an attempt at making Alicent more likable, not less so. It heightens the tragedy of the coming war more if both she and Rhaenyra are at least somewhat sympathetic.
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Oct 11, 2022 07:35
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Oh my god, she didn't poison that girl you terrible TV watchers.
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Oct 11, 2022 07:36
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Yeah there was no point in her giving her money if the tea was poison.
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Oct 11, 2022 07:39
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Metis of the Hallway posted:Yeah there was no point in her giving her money if the tea was poison. Well, their argument was that the money was a trick to convince her to drink the tea, and would be recovered from her corpse pretty quickly after. Not that I agreed with it -- just stab her if you're gonna kill her, no poison required -- but there's logic to it.
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Oct 11, 2022 07:47
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Metis of the Hallway posted:Yeah there was no point in her giving her money if the tea was poison. We never saw the bag open. Maybe it's full of uranium. The poison gold.
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Oct 11, 2022 07:48
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Xiahou Dun posted:We never saw the bag open. AAAAAUUUUUGGGHHH!!!! The bag! The bag is red hot! Alicent, you rat! You weren't trying to bribe my silence, you were giving me the ol' spicy rock! How could you give your own serving girl the spicy rock?
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Oct 11, 2022 08:02
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Why would Alicent even want to kill that poor girl? Like she explicitly stated in the scene, the girl has no incentive to tell anyone since people would just say that she seduced the prince and blame her. Even if she somehow managed to have his child, and everyone believed it was his, it still wouldn't matter. It is considered perfectly normal and acceptable for men to sire bastard children with random servants; the child would have no claim to anything, and no one would care.
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Oct 11, 2022 08:16
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Xiahou Dun posted:We never saw the bag open. Okay, but the theorycrafting earlier in the thread suggests that GoT takes place on Earth millions of years in the future, potentially after a nuclear war or some other bad event, where would they get a bag of uranium, smartypants? That city that's full of shoggoths and other Lovecraftian monsters? Please  But seriously, the scene was pretty clear it was the plan B tea, some queensguard would've just shanked the girl if Alicent didn't care. "You are no son of mine" right after that, too? Come on people.
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Oct 11, 2022 08:17
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DJ_Mindboggler posted:I'm glad my read on the scene was right, and that it was an attempt at making Alicent more likable, not less so. It heightens the tragedy of the coming war more if both she and Rhaenyra are at least somewhat sympathetic. I definitely thought her forcing her employee to have an abortion and giving no consequences to her rapist made her much more likable. I really sympathized with the poor queen.
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Oct 11, 2022 08:22
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I'm just glad that it was ambiguous in a way that didn't just seem like bad writing.
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Oct 11, 2022 08:34
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niethan posted:Plan T Nah that was what Daemon's first wife did
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Oct 11, 2022 08:49
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Schrodinger's Tea
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D-Pad posted:I definitely thought her forcing her employee to have an abortion and giving no consequences to her rapist made her much more likable. I really sympathized with the poor queen. Yeah I also didn't exactly find her sympathetic when she flipped the switch from "i believe you" to "but noone else will"
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Who were the two ladies on the steps in the moonlight? I was lost in that scene, ngl ruddiger fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Oct 11, 2022 |
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Oct 11, 2022 09:00
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By GOT moral standards, not murdering someone on a whim makes you likeable.
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lol people thought it was poison
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Oct 11, 2022 09:18
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If Alicent wanted her dead this would be a dumb way to do it. She could just whisper something to Cole and never even have to be in the same room as her.
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Oct 11, 2022 09:23
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Just caught up on the latest episode and what a relief that King Goon finally got everybody to stop bickering and everything's going to be okay forever now alright it's all gonna be okay King Goon fixed everything!  Paddy Considine has been so good in this, and I love Daemon being delighted to have Aemond as a contender for the role of the family's smirking rear end in a top hat troublemaking rear end-kicker.
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Oct 11, 2022 09:28
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Jerusalem posted:Just caught up on the latest episode and what a relief that King Goon finally got everybody to stop bickering and everything's going to be okay forever now alright it's all gonna be okay King Goon fixed everything! I agree! What a series finale. Looking forward to the next GOT spinoff show.
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Oct 11, 2022 09:30
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ruddiger posted:Who were the two ladies on the steps in the moonlight? I was lost in that scene, ngl the head maid (who knows about dyana) and sonoya mizuno doing a bad french accent
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Oct 11, 2022 09:39
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Hughmoris posted:My man just wanted peace in the kingdom, a happy family, and time to play with his LEGO. His sister looking at him and clearly thinking,"Holy poo poo I dodged a bullet not getting named heir all those years ago  "
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Oct 11, 2022 09:42
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i say swears online posted:lol people thought it was poison Of course it was not poison in the sense of Alicent intending to kill the girl, which is/was the real contention. You're clearly meant to think it a possibility, or at least, believe the girl believes the possibility is there - and Alicent being aware of that belief.
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Oct 11, 2022 09:53
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It's called moon tea in the books and is the GoT equivalent of historical abortifacients like pennyroyal tea. Gets mentioned a whole bunch in the various books to the extent that whenever 'tea' is mentioned you'd expect it to be the plan B tea.
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Anonymous Zebra posted:Dude should have named Daemon hand from the start. I still honestly believe the guy would have earnestly and vigorously protected the interests of his older brother. D-Pad posted:I definitely thought her forcing her employee to have an abortion and giving no consequences to her rapist made her much more likable. I really sympathized with the poor queen.
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Oct 11, 2022 10:08
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I mean, it is, isn't it? Just likely not fatal to anything but the embryo. Maybe I'm misremembering, but they make a point of saying that it needs to be brewed by someone who knows what they're doing to be safe. I took that to mean that the challenge is in making it bad enough for the body to gently caress up the embryo but not so bad that it kills the woman.
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sad question posted:I like that Daemon is generally a nice and calm fella but when he gets in any way exited he turns into Charlie from Always Sunny in wildcard mode. Vaemond stopping just short of saying bastards, and Daemon's almost excited look as he eagerly egged him on to say it, knowing it would give him an excuse to kill him, was great. Matt Smith really is doing a great job.
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Still lolling thinking about that shot of daemon slicing the velaryon brothers head in half and the tongue still poking out right after viserys says he'll have his tongue for that
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 "He can keep his tongue."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr07fqVYgFY
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i say swears online posted:lol people thought it was poison The show had its first legit incredible episode so the absolute dumbest chowderheads are gonna start barging in here now to insist Mikes Voice poo poo. A Buttery Pastry posted:I mean, it is, isn't it? Just likely not fatal to anything but the embryo. Ah yes, embryo poison as we all call it. That DICK! fucked around with this message at 11:59 on Oct 11, 2022 |
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exmarx posted:sonoya mizuno doing a bad french accent I was wondering when they'd get back to her and her spy ring(?)
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Some of you people are terrible at watching television.
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I thought the point of the tea scene was to establish Aegon went from weird kid jerking off onto the street to actual sex criminal, not really do anything for Alicent’s sympathy.
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Alicent obviously didn't kill the maid. The show plays the scene and surrounding scenes so that the question of if Alicent would poison the maid enters your mind, but you have to apply some thought to it and realise that no, she didn't. The intrigue of whether she would go that far is part of what makes the scene interesting. They are playing with this a lot at this stage of the show - when are people being genuine, how awful is this character in reality - and so far, the answer has mostly been no they aren't that evil, Laenor lived etc. Then there will come a point when one of them goes way farther than we expect.
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Typo posted:oh seems like Alicent canonically did NOT kill the girl Nah she was pressured into that answer. The source interview is here: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/house-of-the-dragon-episode-8-interview-1235235825 The actual exchange they had was: quote:At the start of the episode, there was the scene with Dyana, who was then noted as missing. Is she just recovering or transferred to another part of the Red Keep? What are we supposed to assume happened to her when she didn’t return? She understood what the interviewer clearly wanted to hear and she didn't want to make it obvious (more than the show already did) that Dyana was killed, so she compromised and said that yeah it was just a contraceptive tea but that she had absolutely no idea what happened to her after that. Maybe we'll even see her again! (lol no we won't) Consider if she had responded with something like "You tell me, what did you think after watching the episode?". Refusing to answer would have spoken for itself but even if you ignored that and only focused on the episode, the only way to answer is that they didn't directly tell us but they did everything else to imply that Alicent killed her to guarantee her silence. That's why people are asking the question to begin with. D-Pad posted:The implication in universe to the girl was it was plan b tea, that is what the queen wanted her to think. The implication to the audience was she killed her. Really isn't any reason to show the following scene where she is missing and the queen very uncharacteristically hugs the other serving woman looking for her if she was just holed up with some bad cramps or down the road with a big bag of gold. This post gets it. It was her daughter Helaena she hugged not a serving woman but it's still right. It's Chekhov's gun: they wouldn't have told us Dyana was missing for no reason. They had a reason and that reason was to let us know it wasn't just Plan B Tea. The ominous double speak during the conversation ("I know you won't tell anyone", "it's best to be certain") is just icing on the cake. The reason Alicent gave her the bag of coins first was so Dyana didn't suffer by knowing she was about to die, as she was otherwise starting to realize when she insisted she'd never tell anyone else. Alicent was willing to kill to guarantee her silence but she knew it wasn't her fault so there was no reason she needed or wanted to make it more painful than it had to be. She's amorally pragmatic, not sadistic.
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Can’t believe that dastardly Hollywood Reporter interviewer pressured the director into giving false answers.
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wizardofloneliness posted:Can’t believe that dastardly Hollywood Reporter interviewer pressured the director into giving false answers. Now im gonna ask you that question again, and this time, you're gonna loving get it right, ok? Would. Viserys. And. Thomas The Tank Engine. Be. Friends.
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