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BioEnchanted posted:Or the bizarre decision to ADR her with her own voice but doing a weird french accent in Elysium. That was supposed to be a French accent??
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I thought she was pretty good in The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane. A film that in itself did not age well for several reasons.
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Weirdly, it was Little Man Tate that made me dislike Jodie Foster. I know it's probably a minority opinion, but that film just seemed to me to be huffing it's own farts about how deep and important it was. And on Mel Gibson: He is such a hateful bigot that he once said of his ex wife, (whilst they were married) "Yeah, she is a wonderful person, and a good Christian. She loves God and cares for people. She is a better person than I am. But because she is not the exact right sort as Catholic as I am, she is going to hell." And I am only slightly paraphrasing. I feel guilty for liking his recent grumpy old man Santa movie, (but it does have Walton Goggins in it being awesome). Apparently there is a new grumpy old violent Santa movie coming out with David Harbour, so maybe t hat will wash the taste of Mel from my mouth.
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run on sentience posted:What did Jodie Foster do that I should dislike her for? I half-assed googled and couldn't find anything. Friends with Mel Gibson.
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BrigadierSensible posted:Weirdly, it was Little Man Tate that made me dislike Jodie Foster. Kurt Russel has some really fun Rough Santa (although while his santa is a little rough he's also a fundamentally kind person) movies in the Christmas Chronicles duology. At least I thought that they were entertaining. I don't know if Russel is a pos though, don't know his politics, just that I have fun watching him as an actor. He was also great in Sky High. Really funny.
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BioEnchanted posted:Kurt Russel has some really fun Rough Santa (although while his santa is a little rough he's also a fundamentally kind person) movies in the Christmas Chronicles duology. At least I thought that they were entertaining. I don't know if Russel is a pos though, don't know his politics, just that I have fun watching him as an actor. He was also great in Sky High. Really funny. He's a libertarian or something.
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Not surprised. That's not good, but it's not as bad as Mel Gibson's outward bigotry at least.
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Gibson’s a member of Opus Dei, which is a sect of Catholicism that probably should have been excommunicated a while ago. This is mostly for boring church politics reasons, but they also happen to be gigantic shitheads
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thetoughestbean posted:Gibson’s a member of Opus Dei, which is a sect of Catholicism that probably should have been excommunicated a while ago. This is mostly for boring church politics reasons, but they also happen to be gigantic shitheads As opposed to the rest of the Vatican Church?
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Alhazred posted:As opposed to the rest of the Vatican Church? Bigger shitheads than the rest, yes
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BioEnchanted posted:Not surprised. That's not good, but it's not as bad as Mel Gibson's outward bigotry at least. I went over this extensively in the irrationally irritating movie moments thread, he’s a libertarian, very pro cop- pro- death penalty, found the idea of an ecological message in the film Deepwater Horizon repugnant and thought the villain president in Escape From LA was a left winger.
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All this Mel Gibson talk means I am obliged to post this video. It is twenty minutes of your life you will not regret losing. It may be my favourite video on YouTube, and I've seen like eight or nine YouTube videos. https://youtu.be/2UoHb0ziMDA
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IshmaelZarkov posted:All this Mel Gibson talk means I am obliged to post this video. It is twenty minutes of your life you will not regret losing. It may be my favourite video on YouTube, and I've seen like eight or nine YouTube videos. I 100% knew what this was going to be before I clicked on it. Absolute classic stuff.
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I rewatched Ghostbusters for the first time in 20 years or so last night and Jesus christ that movie aged like absolute rear end. Bill Murray's character is a huge loving creep who Signourney Weaver inexplicably likes despite catching on to his creepiness immediately, there is a weird ghost blow job scene, the jokes are almost all flat, terrible, or both, and everything is just all around uncomfortable. Even small bits like how at the end, Murray is just barely covered by the marshmallow jizz while everyone else is drenched, in case you somehow missed who was the real protagonist. It's just a bad movie with almost no redeeming qualities and I actually wonder how it was as popular as it was. I'm cutting myself slack for liking it that long ago because I was a kid, but still, I had terrible taste apparently. E: some of the special effects aren't too bad especially for the era. Giant marshmallow man was pretty funny and looked decent. And while it is kind of cringy, it's also not bad watching Weaver ham it up. Ravenfood has a new favorite as of 14:05 on Oct 11, 2022 |
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Ravenfood posted:I rewatched Ghostbusters for the first time in 20 years or so last night and Jesus christ that movie aged like absolute rear end. Bill Murray's character is a huge loving creep who Signourney Weaver inexplicably likes despite catching on to his creepiness immediately, there is a weird ghost blow job scene, the jokes are almost all flat, terrible, or both, and everything is just all around uncomfortable. We rewatched it earlier this year before watching the new one. There are still buts and pieces that I like of the first two, but there are tons of rough spots, including how much of a creep Murray's character is.
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Torquemada posted:I went over this extensively in the irrationally irritating movie moments thread, he’s a libertarian, very pro cop- pro- death penalty, found the idea of an ecological message in the film Deepwater Horizon repugnant and thought the villain president in Escape From LA was a left winger. Lolol A deep-drilling crude oil platform blows up and our heroes must escape, classic man vs. machine, man vs. nature poo poo. No, hubris has no place in this narrative. You lefty gently caress. This is a self-contained narrative that does not reflect on anything greater than itself.
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I rewatched scarface for the first time in a while last night. The first time I watched it was in 2003 and while it was obviously dated at the time, it didn't feel like a super old movie or something and it still hit with its intended impact. Twenty years later it might as well have ragtime music playing behind it it feels so dated in every way imaginable The fun part is that for a movie built on top of this reputation of being absolutely brutal and harrowing, it's one of the campiest god drat movies I've ever seen as an adult. How deadly serious it (and a sizeable chunk of its fanbase) seems to think it is compared to how unbelievably hokey and melodramatic it is makes it, weirdly enough, way funnier to me than many of the actual beloved comedies to come out of the 80s. It doesn't hurt that the few intentional jokes in the movie all land with perfect comedic timing. It definitely aged really poorly, but as a piece of entertainment it holds up for all the reasons it didn't intend to
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jjack229 posted:We rewatched it earlier this year before watching the new one. There are still buts and pieces that I like of the first two, but there are tons of rough spots, including how much of a creep Murray's character is. The thing that struck me about Ghostbusters is how Murray is legitimately very funny in it, but everybody else in the movie plays it completely straight, so when he cracks wise it just falls to the floor like a lead balloon because nobody reacts. I can kind of understand in an intellectual way how it’s important for blending sci-fi and comedy in a novel way, but as somebody who didn't grow up with it Ghostbusters' popularity kind of baffles me.
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Ghostbusters was popular because everyone wanted to bang Slimer
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Ghostbusters has always sat in a weird place for me, mostly because of the labour divide it presents. Aykroyd's character makes a comment before they open their business that he doesn't want to lose his public funding because they expect results in the private sector, yet when they open their business their main clientele is private interests. There's also their interactions with "dickless" from the city. Yes, they proved that he was wrong to shut their system down, but he was also presented with the reality that they were using extremely unsafe nuclear materials in the middle of NYC. Whether or not you have a grudge, I imagine most inspectors would rightfully freak the gently caress out and want to shut that down before something goes tits up and an entire neighbourhood gets irradiated. It also doesn't help that he continues to be insulted by the busters just for doing his job. I like to think if Egon was the one that did the talking, they could've resolved the situation peacefully, instead we have Venkman just being an rear end in a top hat to everyone
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Ghostbusters is a movie that isn’t very good but inexplicably is regarded by most as a classic (Ex: The Fifth Element) but what it did contribute to society is that it let us know busting feels good.
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Just rewatched Ghostbusters last night as well. I had the exact same reaction to Weaver’s character’s interactions with Murray. She does a complete 180 from calling him out for being sleazy to acting all overwhelmed with his charm because he refuses to leave her apartment. It makes 0 sense. The rest of the movie is fine. Some funny parts and some iconic scenes, especially the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man. But otherwise a mediocre comedy that is probably more iconic because of the theme song, costumes, and rememberable ghosts than for the plot and comedy elements. Edit: Also this: oldpainless posted:but what it did contribute to society is that it let us know busting feels good.
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Ghostbusters is pretty emblematic of a lot of 80s comedies; on paper it sounds like dog poo poo, but it's carried entirely by the innate charisma of its cast. Something like Back to the Future doesn't sound good at all if you just describe it, but when you've got Michael J. Fox and Christopher Lloyd et al. delivering the material, it sings.
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That bustin' reference does make me wonder how much of the movie's staying power is that kickass song
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A shitload of nostalgia for Ghostbusters is really nostalgia for The Real Ghostbusters IMO.
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Aces High posted:Ghostbusters has always sat in a weird place for me, mostly because of the labour divide it presents. Aykroyd's character makes a comment before they open their business that he doesn't want to lose his public funding because they expect results in the private sector, yet when they open their business their main clientele is private interests. Like you say, it's weird. Venkman escalates the situation by deliberately antagonizing him but his instinct that letting him see their setup would put them all out of a job is correct. There is no resolution here, there would have been better stalling tactics than just being a spiteful dick but none of the ghostbusters would really have been equipped to fight a bureaucratic legal battle (Egon is brilliant but clearly out of his depth when it comes to topics beyond his scientific expertise.) Rochallor posted:The thing that struck me about Ghostbusters is how Murray is legitimately very funny in it, but everybody else in the movie plays it completely straight, so when he cracks wise it just falls to the floor like a lead balloon because nobody reacts. See, to me this is the appeal. There is the odd cringey moment or two where Murray's just cramming in too many throwaway jokes, the movie would have benefited if they had dialed him back like 5%, but I love the genre bending and the constant peppering of blink-and-you'll-miss-it jokes. And Murray might be doing the heavy lifting but Rick Moranis also gives a great comic performance in the same vein. I do agree that the lasting appeal of the movie is 110% the cartoon. The movie was a deadpan comedy about unlikely heroes doing a nonsensical job but that's not the legacy that it left behind, it's not what Ghostbusters fans remember it as and it's not what they want follow-ups to be. the holy poopacy has a new favorite as of 15:46 on Apr 20, 2023 |
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Phylodox posted:Ghostbusters is pretty emblematic of a lot of 80s comedies; on paper it sounds like dog poo poo, but it's carried entirely by the innate charisma of its cast. Something like Back to the Future doesn't sound good at all if you just describe it, but when you've got Michael J. Fox and Christopher Lloyd et al. delivering the material, it sings. I re-watched Conan the Barbarian the other week while folding laundry, and I realised that what really carries the film is James Earl Jones and Max von Sydow acting the gently caress out of some otherwise mediocre parts. The whole 'flesh is stronger' sequence is easily one of my favourite bits of film acting.
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I thought it sucked when the old Ghostbusters cartoon shifted from gnarly adventures to just Ray and Slimer getting into hijinks.
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“Yes, it’s true. This man has no dick.” is an all timer.
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oldpainless posted:Ghostbusters is a movie that isn’t very good but inexplicably is regarded by most as a classic (Ex: The Fifth Element) but what it did contribute to society is that it let us know busting feels good. I think a little relativism explains it: it’s an absolutely stupendous film in its category compared to everything else available in late 1984. I’d venture the people who consider it a classic are people like me, middle aged, middle class, white, with disproportionately influential opinions.
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In general, the part that gets me the worst about Ghostbusters these days is not Venkman (who's a creep, but never actually does anything physically even when presented with the opportunity) so much as it is the whole sex-demon-possession-rape thing that just sort of gets glossed over. It's really gross and over-the-top, and seems especially gratuitous since the other demon dog is presented as being completely alien and incomprehensible and is off babbling about Torbs and Sloars while the "female" one is just obsessed with getting its human host hosed.
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Phylodox posted:Ghostbusters is pretty emblematic of a lot of 80s comedies; on paper it sounds like dog poo poo, but it's carried entirely by the innate charisma of its cast. Something like Back to the Future doesn't sound good at all if you just describe it, but when you've got Michael J. Fox and Christopher Lloyd et al. delivering the material, it sings. I disagree. kid goes back in time and learns his stuck up mom was actually a cool teen is a great concept Maybe could have done without her wanting to gently caress him, that was weird
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mandatory lesbian posted:I disagree. kid goes back in time and learns his stuck up mom was actually a cool teen is a great concept To be fair they handled that in the best way they could "it was like kissing my brother." Elissimpark posted:I re-watched Conan the Barbarian the other week while folding laundry, and I realised that what really carries the film is James Earl Jones and Max von Sydow acting the gently caress out of some otherwise mediocre parts. Conan is probably my favorite fantasy film, and it absolutely needed more stuff. Genuinely think Arnold did a fair job for his first really serious attempt and the movie has a very epic, sprawling feel to it. What limits it is budget more than anything.
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Aces High posted:I like to think if Egon was the one that did the talking, they could've resolved the situation peacefully, instead we have Venkman just being an rear end in a top hat to everyone I mean that seems like the basically canon read, yes. It's a recurring thing with Venkman in adaptations that he gets them in as much trouble as he gets them out of by not shutting his yap. Phylodox posted:Ghostbusters is pretty emblematic of a lot of 80s comedies; on paper it sounds like dog poo poo, but it's carried entirely by the innate charisma of its cast. Something like Back to the Future doesn't sound good at all if you just describe it, but when you've got Michael J. Fox and Christopher Lloyd et al. delivering the material, it sings. Has come up that they never actually explain why a teenage boy and an eccentric old inventor are close friends- they did in the script, but the actors just nailed the chemistry so well they rightly felt they didn't need to.
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Brawnfire posted:Ghostbusters was popular because everyone wanted to bang Slimer Obviously, you saw how many hot dogs he could fit in his mouth.
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The original glizzy guzzler.
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CJacobs posted:The original glizzy guzzler. Sadly he could never be the throat Goat without a throat
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