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Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc
You can actually pinpoint the second his heart rips in half
https://twitter.com/KathrynTewson/status/1577857101585866752

Piell fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Oct 6, 2022

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Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

But at least he still has whatever... is it Rumble? Chud YouTube, I guess.

Tewson pointed out it was three years to the day he lost his Twitter account. :allears:

MechaX
Nov 19, 2011

"Let's be positive! Let's start a fire!"

Piell posted:

You can actually pinpoint the second his heart rips in half
https://twitter.com/KathrynTewson/status/1577857101585866752

Probably Nick Offstream: Immediately reaches under his desk for his whiskey bottle and just starts chugging it straight from the bottle

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

Piell posted:

You can actually pinpoint the second his heart rips in half
https://twitter.com/KathrynTewson/status/1577857101585866752
i've never seen a video of this guy before and he's a decade older than i would have assumed for getting so high on his own bullshit as to end up in this position.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
Lol is that a Johnny Depp portrait in his background?

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Dr. Killjoy posted:

Lol is that a Johnny Depp portrait in his background?

Yep :psyduck:

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

He's the patron saint of assholes.

Anora
Feb 16, 2014

I fuckin suck!🪠
https://twitter.com/LasRataAlada/status/1578033130795339776

LOL, Nick, knows how to compile evidence, that's a hoot.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

Anora posted:

https://twitter.com/LasRataAlada/status/1578033130795339776

LOL, Nick, knows how to compile evidence, that's a hoot.
technically, he helped compile a mountain of evidence of his own client's history of sexual harassment

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

TenementFunster posted:

i've never seen a video of this guy before and he's a decade older than i would have assumed for getting so high on his own bullshit as to end up in this position.

I assume the alcohol abuse has aged him somewhat.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

Anora posted:

https://twitter.com/LasRataAlada/status/1578033130795339776

LOL, Nick, knows how to compile evidence, that's a hoot.

That last line to Nick

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

ImpAtom posted:

He's the patron saint of assholes.
Specifically it's a painting from the trial

Exia
Feb 12, 2014
New update
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2022-10-10/vic-mignogna-denied-court-rehearing/.190490

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King
lmfao from the summary:

quote:


The court however also determined the attorney's fee amount initially awarded to Rial and Toye was less than what was "supported by factually sufficient evidence."

Therefore, the appeals court ordered the Tarrant County District Court to redetermine the awards that Mignogna must pay Rial and Toye for their attorney's fees. Otherwise, the appeals court rejected all points of Mignogna's appeal and affirmed the original ruling of the trial court. The appeals court also ordered Mignogna to "pay all costs of this appeal."
it is impressive to lose an appeal that hard

quote:

the Texas Second Court of Appeals' majority opinion stated the trial court "failed to factor in all of the testimony addressing expertise and experience
“he groped so many people that it cost $250,000+ just to talk to everyone” lmfao

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
I'm not sure how it works in Texas, but in FL the only thing that Vic would be able to appeal to the state supreme court would be the attorneys fee change. In FL if the appellate court affirms a decision without comment, those parts are final. There is no further appeal in state. Since the state decision is final (with exception to the larger fee award), he could appeal to the SCOTUS. As I mentioned before, though, he would have to spent a lot of money just getting the appellate books printed and I doubt anyone if front a few thousand in costs right now for an appeal that will get denied without comment.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

Mr. Nice! posted:

I'm not sure how it works in Texas, but in FL the only thing that Vic would be able to appeal to the state supreme court would be the attorneys fee change. In FL if the appellate court affirms a decision without comment, those parts are final. There is no further appeal in state. Since the state decision is final (with exception to the larger fee award), he could appeal to the SCOTUS. As I mentioned before, though, he would have to spent a lot of money just getting the appellate books printed and I doubt anyone if front a few thousand in costs right now for an appeal that will get denied without comment.
looks like he did, and the appeals court said “yeah, you’re right. it’s absolutely not enough by more than half!” i do not envy the person whose job it was to track down everyone who had a gross story abo it Vic Mignogna in the last ~30 years

lmfao hbd to lynn minmay, creep.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Mr. Nice! posted:

I'm not sure how it works in Texas, but in FL the only thing that Vic would be able to appeal to the state supreme court would be the attorneys fee change. In FL if the appellate court affirms a decision without comment, those parts are final. There is no further appeal in state. Since the state decision is final (with exception to the larger fee award), he could appeal to the SCOTUS. As I mentioned before, though, he would have to spent a lot of money just getting the appellate books printed and I doubt anyone if front a few thousand in costs right now for an appeal that will get denied without comment.
Could you really appeal a civil case like this to the Supreme Court? I mean I imagine he's absolutely gonna try, potentially in the forlorn hope that they will find in his favor out of political bias.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Nessus posted:

Could you really appeal a civil case like this to the Supreme Court? I mean I imagine he's absolutely gonna try, potentially in the forlorn hope that they will find in his favor out of political bias.

You can file a petition for cert once the state court case is final. If the TX appellate system is anything like Florida's, then the case is final with the exception of the extra attorneys fees which could get taken up by the state supreme court. It won't, but Vic can ask. The process for filing a petition for cert, which is just a formal request that the SCOTUS even take up your appeal, requires getting 40 copies of your petition bound and delivered (like actual loving books) to the SCOTUS clerk along with one normal paper copy (in the booklet format) and an electronic copy. There are time constraints on getting this done. I'd have to pull up the rules again to see the exact time requirements and am getting ready for football instead. Needless to say, it's an onerous process for someone who is certainly not in forma pauperis, and even then the SCOTUS rarely grants any petitions for cert. There is nothing novel here worth addressing, so it'll just end up in a list with another hundred or so cases in the denied cert list on an order issue day.

MechaX
Nov 19, 2011

"Let's be positive! Let's start a fire!"
On the subject of brief filing procedure, I would imagine that Ty Beard probably got lucky by having most of this stuff happen during COVID where many courts were just accepting efilings instead of whatever older esoteric method they might have had (the COA where I am in previously needed several copies bound, with specific colors for cover pages and whatnot before eventually throwing their hands in the air in 2020 and just accepting electronic filing from now on)

Ty would absolutely manage to gently caress this up in somewhere like SCOTUS (and probably do something like sneaking in new affidavits and poo poo)

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

MechaX posted:

On the subject of brief filing procedure, I would imagine that Ty Beard probably got lucky by having most of this stuff happen during COVID where many courts were just accepting efilings instead of whatever older esoteric method they might have had (the COA where I am in previously needed several copies bound, with specific colors for cover pages and whatnot before eventually throwing their hands in the air in 2020 and just accepting electronic filing from now on)

Ty would absolutely manage to gently caress this up in somewhere like SCOTUS (and probably do something like sneaking in new affidavits and poo poo)

Every court accepts efiling and has for years. The SCOTUS is capable of accepting e-filing on briefs and such, however, they only do so for petitions for cert when the filer is declared in forma pauperis meaning they're too poor to afford filing costs/fees. Vic is absolutely not IFP so he has to follow all the requirements of https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/supct/rule_33.


e: If it seems silly to you that you have to have forty books printed for your petition for cert and your briefs, that's just how the SCOTUS operates. They do it because they can. They're historically a bunch of old fucks and just want their little books rather than reading anything on computers or on standard paper. This is, in many ways, a deliberate barrier to entry on appeals to the SCOTUS.

Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Oct 11, 2022

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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Mr. Nice! posted:

Every court accepts efiling and has for years.

Every federal court, certainly.

State courts, uh...well, most do, but Ohio and Pennsylvania both still have judges that demand paper copies, and each court or even each judge can determine procedure differently. (PA doesn't have a unified e-filing system for the state, in fact, but a patchwork of different vendors used by different counties.)

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Mors Rattus posted:

Every federal court, certainly.

State courts, uh...well, most do, but Ohio and Pennsylvania both still have judges that demand paper copies, and each court or even each judge can determine procedure differently. (PA doesn't have a unified e-filing system for the state, in fact, but a patchwork of different vendors used by different counties.)

:lol: PA. I'll admit I'm spoiled as gently caress with FL's expansive public records laws. Finding case documents here is trivial.

Even if some state judges have archaic rules, you're not having to contract with a third party printer just to file like you have to for some SCOTUS stuff. There are businesses in DC who specialize in SCOTUS printing work.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King
the odds of the actual United States Supreme Court granting cert in this case are at least an order of magnitude lower than the odds of getting the en banc hearing

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

I thought the next step was the Texas Supreme Court

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Waffleman_ posted:

I thought the next step was the Texas Supreme Court

Looking things up, Texas appeals aren't as harsh as FL, but even still fewer than 10% of cases that request discretionary review actually get accepted.

Considerations for appeal are:
(1) whether one of the court of appeals’ justices has filed a dissenting opinion—one that disagrees with the majority on an important point of law;
(2) whether the court of appeals’ decision conflicts with a decision of another court of appeals on an important point of law;
(3) whether the case involves the construction or validity of a statute;
(4) whether the case involves constitutional issues;
(5) whether the court of appeals has made a mistake of law that is of such state-wide importance that it should be corrected; and
(6) whether the court of appeals has decided an important question of state law that should be, but has not been, decided by the Supreme Court. TEX. R. APP . P. 56.1(a).

Even if all of these are met, the court doesn't have to take up the case. They'll only take it if three justices feel it will have statewide impact or fact patterns that will be repeated.

MechaX
Nov 19, 2011

"Let's be positive! Let's start a fire!"

Mr. Nice! posted:

Every court accepts efiling and has for years.

lol, lmao

(until mid-covid, the COAs in my state wanted paper copies in priority of efiling anything; yeah you had to efile the brief or any motions/correspondence too, but they absolutely could and would have kicked out briefs if they didn't get their color-coded and timestamped paper copies regardless of whether or not you efiled)

But then again, I'm also in a state where a case some how managed to reach the State Supreme Court, the case was fully briefed, the court even heard oral arguments, and they immediately afterwards kicked the case due to briefing deficiencies anyway, so things are a little different here

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Mr. Nice! posted:

Even if all of these are met, the court doesn't have to take up the case. They'll only take it if three justices feel it will have statewide impact or fact patterns that will be repeated.

I feel like there's a decent chance the Texas Supreme Court won't pass up the chance to let an old white guy be gross to women and get away with minimal consequences.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
I think you overestimate how much a bunch of old white men care about some random cartoon loser guy. To most people this is not a "culture war" it's just some random rear end in a top hat, and they're not going to go out of their way to do anything for or against him, they'll just take the path of least resistance.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

And as was mentioned earlier, a lot of the people to who it was a culture war moved on to Johnny Depp when it became clear that Vic was a relative nobody who actually did do those things he did.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Clarste posted:

I think you overestimate how much a bunch of old white men care about some random cartoon loser guy. To most people this is not a "culture war" it's just some random rear end in a top hat, and they're not going to go out of their way to do anything for or against him, they'll just take the path of least resistance.

I'd like to think this is closer to what we'll get but betting on positive outcomes hasn't been doing much for me lately.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

Midjack posted:

I'd like to think this is closer to what we'll get but betting on positive outcomes hasn't been doing much for me lately.
idk this whole case has been a refreshing example of a career gross weirdo getting what he deserves, and you can always count on appeals judges to be lazy by default

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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Mr. Nice! posted:

:lol: PA. I'll admit I'm spoiled as gently caress with FL's expansive public records laws. Finding case documents here is trivial.

Even if some state judges have archaic rules, you're not having to contract with a third party printer just to file like you have to for some SCOTUS stuff. There are businesses in DC who specialize in SCOTUS printing work.

Oh for sure. I just work with incoming mail and efiled documents for the in-house counsel for a major insurance company, so I see this stuff from all over the US and some states are a loving mess.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
https://twitter.com/keffals/status/1577811365376540674?t=y0GdTuZCwrz8SHoazb4Eqg&s=19

lol

https://twitter.com/RandallHudson66/status/1577812372894453760?t=pMu_loZVws7Jr1cro1F6gQ&s=19

lmao

Read After Burning
Feb 19, 2013

"All this, for me? 💃Ah, you didn't have to! 🥰"

Mr. Nice! posted:

FL's expansive public records laws. Finding case documents here is trivial.

Bit of a sidebar (:haw:) here, but since you mentioned: is it true that this is why we often see "Florida man" in the news? Like, it's not that FL has more (or crazier) crime than other states, their public records laws are just way more lax? Or is that just a myth?

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Read After Burning posted:

Bit of a sidebar (:haw:) here, but since you mentioned: is it true that this is why we often see "Florida man" in the news? Like, it's not that FL has more (or crazier) crime than other states, their public records laws are just way more lax? Or is that just a myth?

100% true. Criminal records in this state are public. You can go grab the mugshots of the day from any local newspaper, pull up the clerk website for the relevant county, and download all the case files (at this point usually just the Probable Cause Affidavit).

People are people. Florida man exists everywhere. There is nothing unique about FL that makes the people fundamentally different - but sunshine laws have a biiiiig impact on how much that news gets out.

This is also why Bob Kraft, after being arrested for twice soliciting a rub and tug, did not ever file a demand for discovery. In fact, his attorneys went to extensive lengths to never request or accept any discovery from the state attorneys because once it is disclosed to defense, it is public record. This is why Bob Kraft's hogtape never saw the light of day.

The extensive public record access is also how Randaconda got permabanned (because he's in florida prison for child porn).

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!


Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Mr. Nice! posted:

100% true. Criminal records in this state are public. You can go grab the mugshots of the day from any local newspaper, pull up the clerk website for the relevant county, and download all the case files (at this point usually just the Probable Cause Affidavit).

People are people. Florida man exists everywhere. There is nothing unique about FL that makes the people fundamentally different - but sunshine laws have a biiiiig impact on how much that news gets out.

To be fair, Florida is one of very few places in the world where it's possible to use alligators as a tool for crimes.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Mr. Nice! posted:

The extensive public record access is also how Randaconda got permabanned (because he's in florida prison for child porn).

Holy crap. I just knew that guy as a poster on RPG.net with terrible opinions about pro wrestling and for constantly trying to sock puppet his way around a permanent ban.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Mr. Nice! posted:

The extensive public record access is also how Randaconda got permabanned (because he's in florida prison for child porn).

:pedoranda:

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Read After Burning
Feb 19, 2013

"All this, for me? 💃Ah, you didn't have to! 🥰"

Mr. Nice! posted:

This is also why Bob Kraft, after being arrested for twice soliciting a rub and tug, did not ever file a demand for discovery. In fact, his attorneys went to extensive lengths to never request or accept any discovery from the state attorneys because once it is disclosed to defense, it is public record. This is why Bob Kraft's hogtape never saw the light of day.

Huh, I never knew that! Thank you. :)


Dawgstar posted:

Holy crap. I just knew that guy as a poster on RPG.net with terrible opinions about pro wrestling and for constantly trying to sock puppet his way around a permanent ban.

I was gonna say "Wait, the streamer/Lets Play guy?!" but I think I'm thinking of Raocow.

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