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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Gonna just double post some footage of a guy shot in his car and a woman, apparently beaten, motionless on the ground. It's bad. But I think it's important to acknowledge the danger these people put themselves in for the protests.

:nms: :nws:
https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1578788676993449984
https://twitter.com/yoimmah/status/1578718724793589761

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Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!
https://twitter.com/persian_cowboy_/status/1578907337267752960?t=IwclwwJKQSJH_rvJ6IvOhw&s=35

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Oh boy that is not a good sign…for the Mullahs. The security forces or cops stop backing you and poo poo becomes a lot harder. So good to see and interesting what plays out from it.

Granted it could also be the kneel with protestors (in some cases), and then tear gas and beat the poo poo out of them later.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

If this spreads it's over for the Grand Council and the Ayatollah

This is how Caucescu (sp?) was overthrown - basically the military and security state turned on him

Scam Likely
Feb 19, 2021

This was posted on my Iranian classmates Instagram feed.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Scam Likely posted:

This was posted on my Iranian classmates Instagram feed.



https://twitter.com/ksadjadpour/status/1578818422921568256?s=20&t=RXFwO6N-JZLErYsikty0lA

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004



Love it, amazing.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/khars69/status/1579143906276814848

ACAB
https://twitter.com/Omid_M/status/1579128176243929088

https://twitter.com/MohamadAhwaze/status/1578858235662331905

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



ASK ME ABOUT
BEING
ESCULA GRIND'S
#1 SIMP

Marshal Prolapse posted:

Oh boy that is not a good sign…for the Mullahs. The security forces or cops stop backing you and poo poo becomes a lot harder. So good to see and interesting what plays out from it.

Granted it could also be the kneel with protestors (in some cases), and then tear gas and beat the poo poo out of them later.

Yep once you have the security forces it signals the biggest turning point in a coup from what I gather.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

When I want to relax, I read an essay by Engels. When I want something more serious, I read Corto Maltese.
Holy moly, this is incredible.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Edit: there are multiple videos in this tweet, none of them show anything horrible

https://twitter.com/AlirezaEnferad/status/1579259836403191808

https://twitter.com/beybun_rojhilat/status/1579396519127842818

mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Oct 10, 2022

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Oh god

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Kurds just can't catch a break. :smith:

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Carth Dookie posted:

Kurds just can't catch a break. :smith:
Something more :gbsmith:

https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1579446170640084992


https://twitter.com/KhosroKalbasi/status/1579411375449083905

This is very good.

E: https://twitter.com/goodbadatusa/status/1579500493424197632

https://twitter.com/Shayan86/status/1579499206137761792

https://twitter.com/iran_true/status/1579472091006398466

mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Oct 10, 2022

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

I think the mullahs are hosed. Either they implode when the military and cops and others turn on them Fully or they have to reform hard and end up imploding ussr style.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

loving lol at getting your national channels hacked.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

SirPhoebos posted:

loving lol at getting your national channels hacked.

Also getting it by ANONYMOUS is doubly embarrassing.

I can’t wait to see the Islamic Republic be consigned to the dustbin of history.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

When I want to relax, I read an essay by Engels. When I want something more serious, I read Corto Maltese.
Spoke with someone from Iran last night - apparently the mullahs are being compared to the Tyrant Zahhak of brain-eating-shoulder-snakes infamy. Can't argue against that comparison!

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
More strikes!
https://twitter.com/1500tasvir_en/status/1579738673473806336

https://twitter.com/1500tasvir_en/status/1579733426504368128

:ohdear:
https://twitter.com/1500tasvir_en/status/1579738076607557632

Pajser
Jan 28, 2006
This feels like Syria ten years ago, only there the army was pulled in right at the start and started shooting protesters, after which many soldiers rebeled which kicked off the civil war.

It's not a good feeling.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

When I want to relax, I read an essay by Engels. When I want something more serious, I read Corto Maltese.

Pajser posted:

This feels like Syria ten years ago, only there the army was pulled in right at the start and started shooting protesters, after which many soldiers rebeled which kicked off the civil war.

It's not a good feeling.

With the reports of some riot police siding with the protestors, I'm inclined to agree. I hope to God we're wrong.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Pajser posted:

This feels like Syria ten years ago, only there the army was pulled in right at the start and started shooting protesters, after which many soldiers rebeled which kicked off the civil war.

It's not a good feeling.

Possibly but isn’t Iran way more culturally homogeneous plus the protests are happening in most major cities? Like Syria is a different kettle of fish.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


https://i.imgur.com/pZSr2zo.mp4

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Dapper_Swindler posted:

Possibly but isn’t Iran way more culturally homogeneous plus the protests are happening in most major cities? Like Syria is a different kettle of fish.

While Persian culture and language is highly influential, Iran is still much more ethnically diverse than is often realized, obviously there's the Kurds where there is some separatists/autonomist sentiment along with much more minor movements (largely dissipated I think) among Arabs in Khuzestan and the Baloch regions in the southeast. Azerbaijanis are the largest ethnic minority (almost 20%) but I don't think I've really heard of much in the way of separatist sentiment from there in modern times (also consider that the country of Azerbaijan was created from Russian conquests of the Iranian Caucasus, and that many Iranian royal dynasties have been Azerbaijanis and other Turks, and they used to traditionally highly represented in the officer class).

What is correct is that Iran probably has way less sectarian tensions than Syria did (though with Syria don't discount that many did not consider its ethnic and religious tensions to be particularly notable before the civil war broke out, even though they were there obviously). Protests in Syria didn't really start out highly sectarian, one notable thing with them to begin with was that there were major protests in Alawite and Kurdish areas as well, as the civil war broke out of the protests and the regime actively fostered those divisions further that's when they became what I guess alot of people associate with the Syrian civil war.

All in all I don't really have enough information to say that I think this is it or not for the Ayatollahs, though with how broad these protests seen, I have a hard time seeing how they can quell it and retain power, even with extensive reforms (reforms that would probably cost them their grip on power), unless there's an exceedingly violent crackdown, but I'm not really sure that can work either, they have the IRGC and the Basiji, but I'm not really sure that alone is enough for them unless they can solidly split the population in some way. I also think they would need some kind of official foreign diplomatic support in order to begin such a crackdown, and I haven't really seen that either.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004




Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Also Iran has a coherent national ideology, a sincere if evil political class, and would like to preserve itself as one of the leading non Western powers in the world. It can't do that if it goes on a free for all rampage gassing and bombing its own cities.

Syria is a desolated Russian puppet and Assad doesn't give a poo poo as long as his mansion gets its regular caviar delivery.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Strategic Tea posted:

Also Iran has a coherent national ideology, a sincere if evil political class, and would like to preserve itself as one of the leading non Western powers in the world. It can't do that if it goes on a free for all rampage gassing and bombing its own cities.

Syria is a desolated Russian puppet and Assad doesn't give a poo poo as long as his mansion gets its regular caviar delivery.

Eh, it's kind of a bit more than that. While Assad's regime is essentially personal-focused and Iran's is ideological/revolutionary in a sense, Assad's Syria (Hafez and Bashar) has also always played up the "resist the west" part (while often courting Western business and such at the same time).

I would also again like to note that Russia's part in Syria is often overemphasized, Russia was of paramount importance in diplomatically shielding the Syrian regime, but when it comes to actually on-the-ground and day-to-day military operations and all that I would posit that the role played by Iran and it's Iraqi and Hezbollah allies was much more important than Russian aircraft terrorbombing markets. If Assad is a puppet (and puppets are often not as strictly subservient as often imagined) then he is as much an Iranian puppet as a Russian one.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/hbat1188/status/1579774516905271298

:yeshaha:


https://twitter.com/AnymousIran/status/1579779568906670081

https://twitter.com/pouriazeraati/status/1579863477623328768

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/Ancommiey/status/1579438649846169600

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Those videos rule especially the Basiji or Army running away like in an old Three Stooges short. Just needs to have some of Curly‘s laughs over dubbed on it.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Pajser posted:

This feels like Syria ten years ago, only there the army was pulled in right at the start and started shooting protesters, after which many soldiers rebeled which kicked off the civil war.

It's not a good feeling.

Syria had the sectarian factor, there's very little likelihood that things go that direction here given the demographics of Iran and the protests.
Not because it isn't diverse, it is, but because the Syrian regime had a long history of being minority ruled and being able to play minorities against the Sunni Arab majority.
The Iranian leadership isn't at all defined on ethnic-communal basis or anything like that. Any ethnic divisions being exploited also seem unlikely all and all, a lot of them are pretty bound by an overall Iranian identity. And the ones who aren't well, lol at them being fans of the government.

Grape fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Oct 12, 2022

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:



gently caress yeah hit them where it hurts

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



ASK ME ABOUT
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#1 SIMP

for the dummies (me) are they suggesting they will shut down Iran's gas field 14 production?

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

for the dummies (me) are they suggesting they will shut down Iran's gas field 14 production?

Seems like they're threatening to sabotage it, yeah. But I don't have any more context beyond this tweet.


https://twitter.com/beybun_rojhilat/status/1579942958119337984


https://twitter.com/AlirezaEnferad/status/1579947886141640704

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


This gets borderline :nws: towards the end but it’s to prove a point.

https://imgur.com/gallery/P1NWcpI

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
These loving people! I think even the French get tired of protesting a month in.

https://twitter.com/iran_true/status/1580243635744149504

A lot more stuff in the thread:
https://twitter.com/khars69/status/1580180443881611264

https://twitter.com/KambizGhafouri/status/1580213729454567425

Dunno how representative this is but it's a good sign, the state security apparatus need to be neutralized to put real pressure on the government

https://twitter.com/LudwigDerRohe/status/1580094114573717504

I think we can all agree with this sentiment

https://twitter.com/nomadmehran/status/1579957438429925377

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

mobby_6kl posted:

These loving people! I think even the French get tired of protesting a month in.

Arab Spring demonstrations went on for months, in Syria they began in February, somewhat small at first, then from March until July were basically continuous until that turned into the civil war. French might be at top in Europe, but they got nothing on the Middle East.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
We're measuring by French under democracy, rather than French under autocracy. Where as I understand it they have a pretty good record.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The french protested for a full year with riots every weekend a couple years back, lets not get ahead of ourselves here, this doesn't diminish the bravery of the Iranians of course

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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

ekuNNN posted:

The french protested for a full year with riots every weekend a couple years back, lets not get ahead of ourselves here, this doesn't diminish the bravery of the Iranians of course

The yellow vest thing, were they really out for that long? Kind of forgot about that in the excitement. Though to be fair they weren't being murdered by the hundreds either.

https://twitter.com/VahidOnlineEng/status/1580254798741667841

Warning: cops begin bastards
https://twitter.com/Omid_M/status/1580276639405314049

Warning: cops getting owned :krad:

https://twitter.com/khars69/status/1580227240348225538

That's abelist :mad:

https://twitter.com/Protesters2022/status/1580236511613550597


https://twitter.com/EdwardOfIran/status/1580227236053254145

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